Silicone lube on a silicone toy before I knew any better

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Silicone lube on a silicone toy before I knew any better

Entropy Entropy
Before I began visiting EF I knew very little about sex toys in general. I used Platinum Wet silicone lube on a Tantus Feeldoe and was pegged for close to an hour with a couple of reapplications. Nothing bad happened to the toy, and it still looks and feels great. Shortly after I did this I learned about the silicone rule, so I've never repeated my mistake. Was I just lucky, or are there other factors that play into things like how many times you do it, the quality of the lube and toy, etc.?
01/10/2012
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Kindred Kindred
High quality silicone lubes can be compatible with high quality silicone toys. However, you should always spot-test a new bottle as the formulation may change unknowingly. For most people, it's easier and less of a risk to use either water-based or oil-based lubes instead.
01/10/2012
Antipova Antipova
If you don't mind digging in the archives, here's a li'l something ToyTimeTim tried out...
01/10/2012
Jenna@Tantus Jenna@Tantus
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Originally posted by Kindred
High quality silicone lubes can be compatible with high quality silicone toys. However, you should always spot-test a new bottle as the formulation may change unknowingly. For most people, it's easier and less of a risk to use either ...
Agree with this wholeheartedly. Am at a trade show, and trying to get an idea of what lubes work, particularly with Tantus silicone. But there's a huge number of lube manufacturers, and trying to keep up is like trying to count the stars.
01/10/2012
Antipova Antipova
A rule of thumb, though, is "the softer the silicone, the more careful you should be" because not all of the atoms within the molecules are cross-linked as securely as in the firmest silicones, so there are more sites for the silicone lube to interact.

So with your dual density stuff, (O2, VixSkin), be extra careful!
01/10/2012
Cookie Monster Mike Cookie Monster Mike
Wow super lucky to not have any problems with that. I have stored toys together before, recently and in the past. The only noticeable problems I had was in the past when I used to use Jelly toys, yuck. Had a few of those melt in spots from touching each other.

Recently I had 2 Doc Johnson silicone toys accidentally come into contact with each other for i'd say a good day before I realized. Separated them and gave them a good look over for any damage. Just at the base of both of them there was a small dime size spot where the surface was slightly more jelly like compared to the rest of the toy. I have heard in some cases that the same brand of high quality silicone toys can be stored together without issues, but still not a risk I want to take.

I'm just glad you didn't have any issues in your situation.
01/10/2012
Antipova Antipova
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Originally posted by Cookie Monster Mike
Wow super lucky to not have any problems with that. I have stored toys together before, recently and in the past. The only noticeable problems I had was in the past when I used to use Jelly toys, yuck. Had a few of those melt in spots from touching ...
(I keep all mine in a box together... I keep my dual densities standing upright and separated from each other, but other than that, there's not exactly a lot of possible bonding sites once the silicone has been cured. This thread's got some decent info.)
01/10/2012
Girly Girl Girly Girl
i think you should try what kind of lube to use in a little spot before trying on the whole toy
01/10/2012
El-Jaro El-Jaro
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Originally posted by Girly Girl
i think you should try what kind of lube to use in a little spot before trying on the whole toy
aka spot testing - always a good idea if you're unsure.

I've done this before on a few different toys (Mantoy is the only that comes to mind). As Kindred said, as long as the toy is made of pure silicone, you'll be fine.
01/10/2012
Rin (aka Nire) Rin (aka Nire)
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Originally posted by Cookie Monster Mike
Wow super lucky to not have any problems with that. I have stored toys together before, recently and in the past. The only noticeable problems I had was in the past when I used to use Jelly toys, yuck. Had a few of those melt in spots from touching ...
You sure they were pure silicone and not a compound like TPR silicone or something? Some companies aren't so honest on their packaging, and Doc Johnson does this a lot. Pure silicone toys are quite safe together. Most of my silicone toys sit on top of each other in a makeup bag inside my toy box - different firmness and companies, too. No issues whatsoever.
01/10/2012
Gyrator Gyrator
We have had no issues at all with using Pjur Original silicone lube with Tantus Feeldoes or FunFactory Share dildos. We started using silicone oil with these toys after reading an article by Metis Black (president of Tantus) which said that their toys were OK with 'good quality' silicone lubes. Our experience fully backs that up. However, I continue to hear of people having issues with silicone toys and silicone lube so I think a small patch test is always going to be worth doing on any new toy/lube combination.

We also store silicone toys in contact with each other without any bonding issues.
01/11/2012
Kindred Kindred
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Originally posted by Gyrator
We have had no issues at all with using Pjur Original silicone lube with Tantus Feeldoes or FunFactory Share dildos. We started using silicone oil with these toys after reading an article by Metis Black (president of Tantus) which said that their ...
I would still suggest spot testing each bottle for compatibility because formulations can change. The Tantus site used to actually say that pjur bodyglide was compatible with their non-O2 silicone, but I don't see that anymore. My guess is because they can't guarantee the purity of the product since it is a different manufacturer.
01/11/2012
Gyrator Gyrator
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Originally posted by Kindred
I would still suggest spot testing each bottle for compatibility because formulations can change. The Tantus site used to actually say that pjur bodyglide was compatible with their non-O2 silicone, but I don't see that anymore. My guess is ...
I guess you could go to that trouble but it has been such a non-issue for us we certainly don't bother. Actually, our biggest hazard to date has been mice - one got into our toy box and nibbled chunks out of a Feeldoe, a Share, a Share XL and a Ryder butt plug
01/11/2012
Entropy Entropy
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Originally posted by Antipova
If you don't mind digging in the archives, here's a li'l something ToyTimeTim tried out...
Great link, thanks!
01/12/2012
Entropy Entropy
Quote:
Originally posted by Gyrator
I guess you could go to that trouble but it has been such a non-issue for us we certainly don't bother. Actually, our biggest hazard to date has been mice - one got into our toy box and nibbled chunks out of a Feeldoe, a Share, a Share XL and a ...
That's horrible, what a loss of some really great toys!
01/12/2012
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