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Contributor: Rin (aka Nire) Rin (aka Nire)
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I haven't really gotten much chance to use this here toy in the shower yet, mainly because I require lube for insertable toys. The trouble is, water-based lube will wash right off and silicone-based will likely destroy it.

For my pure silicone toys, I just use oil-based lube when I play in the shower, but I don't know if TPR silicone is okay with that, too. Eden's material guide very rarely mentions oil-based lube at all (for example, the page for pure silicone only says to use water-based, but I know that oil-based is fine, too), so I figured I'd ask here to see if anyone knows. If not, I'll just spot-test, but if someone's got an answer please speak up.
06/22/2012
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Contributor: Kindred Kindred
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Originally posted by Rin (aka Nire)
I haven't really gotten much chance to use this here toy in the shower yet, mainly because I require lube for insertable toys. The trouble is, water-based lube will wash right off and silicone-based will likely destroy it.

For my pure ... more
Most TPR toys, TPR silicone included, are not compatible with oil based lubes because of the rubber component. You also did not specify but I assume your question was asking about vaginal insertion rather than anal. Oil based lube is generally not recommended vaginally.

Water based is pretty much your best option. A thicker formula, like Maximus, might work better. Or if you didn't have water running over you that would reduce the wash off. Only other suggestion would be to use a silicone or hybrid lube with a condom.
06/22/2012
Contributor: Rin (aka Nire) Rin (aka Nire)
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Originally posted by Kindred
Most TPR toys, TPR silicone included, are not compatible with oil based lubes because of the rubber component. You also did not specify but I assume your question was asking about vaginal insertion rather than anal. Oil based lube is generally not ... more
Good to know, thanks a lot! I kind of suspected as such, but it's good to have my suspicions confirmed. Kind of disappointed, but oh well. I'll probably try my Sliquid gel (thickest stuff I have currently) and just direct the shower head away from me, at least until I get the toy in.

And yes, it's vaginal. I use Yes oil-based lube every so often for shower play and I've never experienced problems (I believe Gunsmoke said he and his wife use oil-based all the time without trouble, which is what gave me the idea) and none of the sources I've checked have ever cautioned against using oil-based lube vaginally. Is there something specific I should be worried about with it?
06/22/2012
Contributor: Kindred Kindred
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Originally posted by Rin (aka Nire)
Good to know, thanks a lot! I kind of suspected as such, but it's good to have my suspicions confirmed. Kind of disappointed, but oh well. I'll probably try my Sliquid gel (thickest stuff I have currently) and just direct the shower head ... more
It's not that the oil itself is harmful, but it doesn't get absorbed very well and can lead to a vaginal infection. I'm sure some types of oil are "safer" than others, but I'm not sure. I've only used oil based for anal.
06/22/2012
Contributor: Rin (aka Nire) Rin (aka Nire)
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Originally posted by Kindred
It's not that the oil itself is harmful, but it doesn't get absorbed very well and can lead to a vaginal infection. I'm sure some types of oil are "safer" than others, but I'm not sure. I've only used oil based for anal.
I can see that being the case. Yes is, from what I've seen and heard, a reputable brand that focuses heavily on producing healthy and safe products (much like Sliquid does), and since I'm not using it too frequently I believe I'll be okay. Several months down the line and no problems thus far, though if I do get an infection I'll at least be aware of one possible cause.
06/22/2012
Contributor: Airen Wolf Airen Wolf
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Originally posted by Rin (aka Nire)
I haven't really gotten much chance to use this here toy in the shower yet, mainly because I require lube for insertable toys. The trouble is, water-based lube will wash right off and silicone-based will likely destroy it.

For my pure ... more
Silicone lube is safe to use with TPR toys. If you are really worried then spot test a small, inconspicuous area with your favorite lube. Honestly? I have over a dozen TPR, TPE and even silicone toys I regularly use with silicone lube and i've never had a bad reaction or a toy marred by the lube.

Remember that vaginas don't really like oil based lube, lots of vaginas REALLY don't like it.
06/22/2012
Contributor: Rin (aka Nire) Rin (aka Nire)
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Originally posted by Airen Wolf
Silicone lube is safe to use with TPR toys. If you are really worried then spot test a small, inconspicuous area with your favorite lube. Honestly? I have over a dozen TPR, TPE and even silicone toys I regularly use with silicone lube and i've ... more
I know it's safe with normal TPR, it's the TPR silicone I worry about. I know pure silicone may withstand it, but I don't know about a compound. Truthfully, I don't much like silicone lube (too thin, feels weird, hardest to wash off) - I generally only keep it around for my "bath toys" that I know for certain won't work with the oil, which admittedly I don't like much better (doesn't feel wet enough), but I just don't make enough lubrication on my own. I might do a spot test, though, just to see.

I'm actually kind of surprised - this is the first time I've ever heard of oil-based lube being bad for you. I've never had a problem, and with this thread I've been looking the topic up and still can't find any reference to oil-based lubes negatively effecting vaginal health (for the most part all I get is warnings not to use it with latex condoms, which I already know). If anyone can send me some links, I'll be happy to read up.
06/22/2012
Contributor: The Kitty The Kitty
I prefer oil based lubes myself
08/13/2012
Contributor: Rin (aka Nire) Rin (aka Nire)
I'm aware of that, but it's not a regular TPR toy - it's TPR silicone, a compound, which may not hold up under silicone lube.
08/14/2012
Contributor: indiglo indiglo
The reason that oil-based lubes are not often recommended for vaginal use is that the vagina can't shed (slough off) oil-based lubricants well. That means it can hang around in there and that in and of itself can cause problems. They can also change vaginal pH, encouraging bacterial growth - and that can be a problem with BV, for example.

Some people can use oil-based lubes with no problem, while others have problems due to the aforementioned issues.

Hope this helps.
08/14/2012
Contributor: angelxwriter angelxwriter
Pretty much just use water-based lube with this toy. Maximus is very good stuff.

And I would stay away from oil-based in general. If not to avoid infection, but just the general texture and feel of it is unpleasant. Maybe that is just me.
10/02/2012
Contributor: RedGlitter RedGlitter
I'm going to use water based lube in the future
01/06/2013
Contributor: DemonSlayer DemonSlayer
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Originally posted by Kindred
Most TPR toys, TPR silicone included, are not compatible with oil based lubes because of the rubber component. You also did not specify but I assume your question was asking about vaginal insertion rather than anal. Oil based lube is generally not ... more
Thank you so much. I didn't know Oil based lubes can be used vaginally. I'll tell my girl. Thanks again.
01/17/2013