What toys are not safe with silicone lubes?

Venus Fable Venus Fable
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I heard that certain lubes can't be used with certain toys. Can someone tell me how this works?
04/15/2008
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Lilith Desiderata Lilith Desiderata
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Originally posted by Venus Fable
I heard that certain lubes can't be used with certain toys. Can someone tell me how this works?
Hi Venus - basically, silicone lube and silicone toys are not compatible because they react with one another (silicone may also leave stains on bedsheets and upholstery), but water-based lubricant is fine with any material and usually won't stain anything.

Why would anyone use silicone-based then, you might ask. Silicone-based tends to last longer and not dissolve in water (great for a jacuzzi quickie), whereas water-based is easily washed away or absorbed, which means it won't be as effective as silicone-based over long sessions. Silicone-based also has a nice silky feel, which some people prefer.

Hope this helps!
04/15/2008
Cock Wrangler Cock Wrangler
Other considerations: Silicone lube should not be used with cyberskin or jelly toys, either, as it will melt them. When using lube with condoms or anything containing latex, avoid lube with any kind of oil.

Basically, it's a good idea to stick to water-based lube for use with any kind of toys!
05/21/2008
TexasBrat TexasBrat
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Originally posted by Venus Fable
I heard that certain lubes can't be used with certain toys. Can someone tell me how this works?
I had a cyberskin dildo that I had accidently leaned onto another toy (while storing it). Now, you're not to use silicone toys with silicone lubes (cyberskin is silicone based). I had used silicone lube with the other toy that the cyberskin was laying on, and thought I'd cleaned it thoroughly. I didn't think anything of it, and a few weeks later, I thought I'd clean out my toys a bit. Well, the silicone RESIDUE had made a gelatinous mess out of my cyberskin dildo!! I mean, icky, gooey, and warped mess!! So, it's best to store cyberskin toys in their original packaging, away from other toys. Also, this CAN happen to you while using a toy, so please don't make the mistake of thinking that such a small amount of time won't matter, cuz you wouldn't want to go to the GYNO for a flushing.......ew!!!

Any silicone toy that is safe to use with silicone lubes will SAY SO on the box. So, just be careful.

I love silicone lubes with my glass toys, FYI.
06/07/2008
Mistress Mandy Mistress Mandy
I'm curious as to what, if anything, silicone lubricants could do to a fleshlight? I've been looking for info on this for my husband, as he doesn't really research materials, and so far all I can find is that it doesn't really work very well with the material, nothing about whether or not it would damage it. Thanks for any info anyone has!
08/01/2008
Beautiful Dreamer Beautiful Dreamer
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Originally posted by Cock Wrangler
Other considerations: Silicone lube should not be used with cyberskin or jelly toys, either, as it will melt them. When using lube with condoms or anything containing latex, avoid lube with any kind of oil.Basically, it's a good idea to stick to ... More
Thanks for the comment on Jelly Toys- I definitely did not know that!!
08/14/2008
buttslut buttslut
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Originally posted by TexasBrat
I had a cyberskin dildo that I had accidently leaned onto another toy (while storing it). Now, you're not to use silicone toys with silicone lubes (cyberskin is silicone based). I had used silicone lube with the other toy that the cyberskin was ... More
I had this happen to me as well. Store my mens pleasure wand and one of my butt plugs fell over on it and they melted together. what a loss as they were both my favorite toys and i had to go buy them again. the butt plug was spiral and it had a suction cup base. mmmmm.
12/10/2008
BJismyname BJismyname
this was all very informative! thanks everyone!
09/02/2010
Trashley Trashley
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Originally posted by TexasBrat
I had a cyberskin dildo that I had accidently leaned onto another toy (while storing it). Now, you're not to use silicone toys with silicone lubes (cyberskin is silicone based). I had used silicone lube with the other toy that the cyberskin was ... More
Ugh, had that happen to me once. No bueno.. felt bad man.
09/03/2010
ScottA ScottA
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Originally posted by Trashley
Ugh, had that happen to me once. No bueno.. felt bad man.
Cyberskin might have some silicone in it but it definitely isn't 100% silicone.

The softer silicones tend to be more fragile, so you need to be more careful with them (O2, VixSkin and other real-feel materials).
09/04/2010
ArissaDark ArissaDark
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Originally posted by Lilith Desiderata
Hi Venus - basically, silicone lube and silicone toys are not compatible because they react with one another (silicone may also leave stains on bedsheets and upholstery), but water-based lubricant is fine with any material and usually won't stain ... More
Just a quick add-on to Lilith's excellent discussion, silicone is also an inert material which in effect won't be taken up by the porous vaginal walls (or through the skin of the penis, for that matter) as easily as a water-based lube. A friend of mine has described "being able to feel [silicone lube] inside [her] for a while" but in my experience, it feels much more natural without the stickiness of some water-based products. That said, some claim that silicone is "safer" because it isn't absorbed by the body. Just use a condom over your silicone toy if you want to use a silicone lube. Enjoy!
12/21/2010
TexasBrat TexasBrat
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Originally posted by Mistress Mandy
I'm curious as to what, if anything, silicone lubricants could do to a fleshlight? I've been looking for info on this for my husband, as he doesn't really research materials, and so far all I can find is that it doesn't really work ... More
I wouldn't use silicone based lubes with the fleshlight. I believe that's made of a cyberskin material, which has silicone in it, so I would use the water-based lubes with it, just to be on the safe side.
12/28/2010
TexasBrat TexasBrat
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Originally posted by ArissaDark
Just a quick add-on to Lilith's excellent discussion, silicone is also an inert material which in effect won't be taken up by the porous vaginal walls (or through the skin of the penis, for that matter) as easily as a water-based lube. A ... More
Do NOT use a silicone based lube with a condom!!!! It will also melt it. The ONLY time you can use a silicone based lube with a condom if it says LATEX compatable!! It does the same thing to latex as it does to cyberskin!!!!!!!
12/28/2010
AnnTheMaster AnnTheMaster
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Originally posted by Venus Fable
I heard that certain lubes can't be used with certain toys. Can someone tell me how this works?
i was wondering about this too
12/31/2010
AnnTheMaster AnnTheMaster
Quote:
Originally posted by Lilith Desiderata
Hi Venus - basically, silicone lube and silicone toys are not compatible because they react with one another (silicone may also leave stains on bedsheets and upholstery), but water-based lubricant is fine with any material and usually won't stain ... More
thanks!
12/31/2010
bethd1708 bethd1708
Quote:
Originally posted by Lilith Desiderata
Hi Venus - basically, silicone lube and silicone toys are not compatible because they react with one another (silicone may also leave stains on bedsheets and upholstery), but water-based lubricant is fine with any material and usually won't stain ... More
thanks for the explanation! i was wondering myself what the difference was
05/15/2011
Jul!a Jul!a
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Originally posted by TexasBrat
Do NOT use a silicone based lube with a condom!!!! It will also melt it. The ONLY time you can use a silicone based lube with a condom if it says LATEX compatable!! It does the same thing to latex as it does to cyberskin!!!!!!!
Actually it's just oil based lubes that are harmful to latex condoms. I've tried a lot of different condoms and have used silicone lube with most of them and haven't had any problems
05/16/2011
P'Gell P'Gell
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Originally posted by TexasBrat
I had a cyberskin dildo that I had accidently leaned onto another toy (while storing it). Now, you're not to use silicone toys with silicone lubes (cyberskin is silicone based). I had used silicone lube with the other toy that the cyberskin was ... More
I wrap my silicone toys and my TPR/silicone toys and my O2 silicone toys in cotton handkerchiefs and store them in toy boxes or toy bags. The cotton does a great job of protecting the materials. I have not had a single problem with gooing or mess.

I usually get the handkerchiefs at second hand and antique stores or buy them in quanity at Target or the dollar store. Mens' handkerchiefs work better to wrap toys, because they are much bigger than ladies' handkerchiefs.
05/16/2011
ToyBoy ToyBoy
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Originally posted by Venus Fable
I heard that certain lubes can't be used with certain toys. Can someone tell me how this works?
Silicone lube tends to melt silicone-based toys. This obviously includes silicone, along with cyberskin, which is used for masturbators and dildos. Now some silicone toys are made so well that the companies claim they can be used with certain silicone lube. I know tantus says this, and I've hear it is true, but I wouldn't take the chance with more expensive silicone toys.
05/20/2011
VioletMoonstone VioletMoonstone
I learned a lot from reading everyone elses posts. Interesting stuff! I'm not very familiar with oil lubes but I understand water/silicone based lubes.
06/08/2011
Silicone101 Silicone101
I happened to find this string on a search and have to say there is a great deal of incorrect information about silicone in this string of messages. First silicone is made by hundreds of companies with hundreds of formulas and blends of silicones together to make the final product. The number one type of silicone ingredient in lubes is dimethicone that is a type that is thick soft and smooth. Depending on the what the goal of the lube is will add other silicones to make it last longer, more slick, glide or slide. Silicone can be made in a very pure environmental friendly process or the opposite with a silicone designed for industrial, food preparation, cosmetics or medical. Silicones are inert - BUT MOST SILICONE LUBES CONTAIN OTHER PRODUCTS SUCH AS ALOE, VITAMIN E and the chemicals used to mask color or taste.

Silicone is NOT an oil. It is an inert chemical that will evaporate with time (Water is a chemical also) good quality silicone lubes will not leave a stain. Others that have additives, warmers, flavors will leave a stain and therefore are not hypoallergenic. Silicone Lubes are not sterile or if they are as soon as it is opened it becomes a mute issue. KY Jelly was for a long time the only medical use lube available trusted by Doctors around the world. Silicone lube that claims to be medical grade are just that the grade of silicone and how it is developed - not that it is superior to the others if the purpose is for a lube. Medical grade silicone was designed to stay inside the body for years held within a designated barrier. Cosmetic Grade has been used for years and is more in tune with skin and skin allergies.

Condom testing is not conducted by any regulatory agency anywhere in the world. There is no ISO9000 or equivalent - just random methods that have no procedure or true test process. A company claiming to be condom safe is a broad claim and would be hard to test every condom manufacturer and every change in their manufacturing process. Silicone lubes if they state on their label most likely have tested their product with certain latex condoms and many are fine. But again it is all the other ingredients inside the bottle with the lube that might react and might break down latex.

Regarding toys and the effect silicone has on them is a case by case. It is inaccurate to make a broad claim on silicone without all the facts. Including other items the toy may have come into contact in use, if it was cleaned properly,stored correctly. Read: link. Some silicones, some waterbased, some oils will have adverse reactions with toys and just because it is labeled one type you should always read the ingredients. Waterbased Flavored with warming agents is not safe to use on toys as it will have some reaction being reactive and reacting as soon as it is dispensed.

Pure silicone will not have a reaction with other pure silicone. It is always wise to test your lube with any toy and never assume just because it has a certain type of lube it is safe to use with your method or other items. Hope this helps.
07/11/2011
underHim underHim
I always just go with the instructions for what lube to use, but when in doubt I just use spit.
02/22/2012
sunsplash sunsplash
this is packaged nicely !
02/23/2012
stormywaters stormywaters
looks like pink fun
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