What Does "Jelly" Mean to You? Where Does Your Jelly Comfort-Zone End?

LQ LQ
Need some clarification regarding a materials question that came up while writing a review.

The basic question is "If you're someone who makes a point of avoiding jelly materials, do you also avoid similar or alternate forms of PVC and jelly?"

The impression I've gotten from the forums is that if you see anything jelly-like, you should throw holy water at it & run. Now I understand this with "standard" jelly, where you get the dizzying smell & greasy ooze. That's the idea that comes to mind for me when I hear someone say "jelly," and it seems to be sort of the general usage of the term "jelly" around here.

However, many jelly toys are not at all like those above. There are at least a few pthalate-free jelly toys now. And there are plenty of "jelly" toys that don't act like jelly: Basically, PVC or PVC blends. Yes, they all have the same basic chemical composition, but they're much different in smell, feel, firmness, etc. I'd have no clue that my Jelly Toy A is chemically similar to my PVC Toy B without being told or looking it up.

So, I'm trying to find out why PVC gets lumped in with the squishy jellies on the less-safe end of the scale. Is this habit, left over from general jelly trauma? Does PVC itself have some worrisome characteristics? (Assume for the sake of the question it's pthalate-free). Is it maybe porosity that is a bigger issue here than the chemical composition?

How do you feel about PVC blends? It's surprising how many things contain PVC in some form when you look at the Materials Guide.
Answers (public voting - your screen name will appear in the results):
PVC
Adriana Ravenlust
1
Pthalate-free PVC
PVC blends
Adriana Ravenlust
1
"Standard" jelly (with pthalates)
LQ , Adriana Ravenlust , kendra30752
3
Pthalate-free jelly
All of the above
A Closet Slut (aka nipplepeople) , Antipova
2
None of the above
tlaskowski
1
Other - Please explain
A Woman And Her Wand
1
Total votes: 9 (7 voters)
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Adriana Ravenlust Adriana Ravenlust
I voted for everything I lump together as jelly and try to avoid in general
11/17/2011
A Woman And Her Wand A Woman And Her Wand
I voted other, because I am new to the toy scene and still learning about it all.
11/17/2011
kendra30752 kendra30752
Honestly, I am not all that offended by some jelly. If it's just terrible and is not phthalates free then I will try to avoid it, but if it's phthalates free and decent, I'll be Ok with using it. I kind of prefer a PVC material because silicone isn't always squishy enough and doesn't always have enough give for me. With half of the toys being large, I kind of have to go with PVC if I want my toys to have any give. It's very hard to find an average sized toy these days. There's tons, but not all lines carry a size that will be small enough for some of us. That's my main reason for ever using PVC or Jelly. I use jelly on external vibes like the strap on clit vibe I have. It doesn't get inserted so I don't worry too much when using it.
11/17/2011
LQ LQ
Thanks for the input, all. I got curious because the Materials Guide kind of conflicts with itself when it comes to phthalate-free PVC & I'm trying to figure out what's up.

I'm finishing a review of Devinn Lane's Pleasure Pal. It was previously labeled as "jelly" (safety rating 2), but it doesn't act like jelly, so I did some checking, got confirmation that it's phthalate-free PVC, and talked to EdenFolk so the page now says...

Material: PVC (safety rating 2)
Special Features: Phthalate-Free

So... we have removed the icky phthalates, but not increased the safety rating any? Hrm. Well, if you look at the Materials Guide, there's actually an entry for... tada!... "Phthalate Free PVC" (safety rating 8). Now that makes much more sense, but that label is almost never used. Only places I can find it are on the "I Rub My Duckies."

So, I'm trying to see if I'm missing something and/or who here at Eden would be appropriate to ask about materials stuff, if anyone knows.

Thanks again for the help, all.
11/17/2011
tlaskowski tlaskowski
i just dont like the feel of jelly!
11/19/2011
Antipova Antipova
I was one of those unlucky folks who got burned (literally) with my first ever toy which was jelly. I also have a sensitive nose, so with so many safe, totally odor-free materials like silicone, glass, metal, and wood---I don't see why I would want to use anything made of anything with an odor.

If I'm getting something like a cock ring, or my new clit pump, where silicone wouldn't really be as feasible, I'll accept TPR. It's not totally odorless, but it's significantly better than PVC.

But---there are so many things which can be sterilized. I don't have a need to choose a toy which can't be.
11/19/2011
SadoMas SadoMas
Pthalate-free jelly
06/08/2012
jryder3891 jryder3891
Quote:
Originally posted by LQ
Need some clarification regarding a materials question that came up while writing a review.

The basic question is "If you're someone who makes a point of avoiding jelly materials, do you also avoid similar or alternate forms of PVC ... More
PVC Blends
06/08/2012
jryder3891 jryder3891
Quote:
Originally posted by LQ
Need some clarification regarding a materials question that came up while writing a review.

The basic question is "If you're someone who makes a point of avoiding jelly materials, do you also avoid similar or alternate forms of PVC ... More
I just dont like plain jelly
06/18/2012
jryder3891 jryder3891
Quote:
Originally posted by tlaskowski
i just dont like the feel of jelly!
Most dont
06/18/2012
jryder3891 jryder3891
Quote:
Originally posted by Adriana Ravenlust
I voted for everything I lump together as jelly and try to avoid in general
Good Idea lol
06/18/2012
jryder3891 jryder3891
Quote:
Originally posted by jryder3891
PVC Blends
I can deal with PVC
06/18/2012
Modern^Spank^Anthem Modern^Spank^Anthem
I try to stay away from materials that easily break down and can cause immediate pain
06/20/2012
Total posts: 14
Unique posters: 9