Is consensual non-consent still consent?

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Contributor: fizzygato fizzygato
Well, is it?

Is consensual non-consent still consent?

Why or why not?

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Answers (private voting - your screen name will NOT appear in the results):
Yes, it still is consent
33  (69%)
No, it isn't consent
2  (4%)
It depends on how it's done
13  (27%)
Total votes: 48
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02/07/2013
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Contributor: GONE! GONE!
Do you mean, like, a BDSM scene where it was all negotiated before hand?
02/08/2013
Contributor: Ryuson Ryuson
(Review Program Mentor)
For sure, but if they ignore your safe-word it's not. If you give them consent to tie them up and have their way with you, no matter what you say other than your safe word, that's totally okay.
02/08/2013
Contributor: Falsepast Falsepast
Quote:
Originally posted by Ryuson
For sure, but if they ignore your safe-word it's not. If you give them consent to tie them up and have their way with you, no matter what you say other than your safe word, that's totally okay.
I agree with this. BUT you DEFINITELY need a safe word beforehand
02/08/2013
Contributor: shorejen9 shorejen9
Yes just have a safe word and respect it!
02/08/2013
Contributor: El-Jaro El-Jaro
If they say "no" at any point in time, I'm done. I don't play that yes/no stuff. It's a great way to get into trouble with the law.

If she says "no", but means "yes"...I guess that's her problem when I stop. Some things you don't play around with, rape charges being one of them.
02/08/2013
Contributor: kitty1949 kitty1949
Quote:
Originally posted by El-Jaro
If they say "no" at any point in time, I'm done. I don't play that yes/no stuff. It's a great way to get into trouble with the law.

If she says "no", but means "yes"...I guess that's her problem ... more
There it is.
02/08/2013
Contributor: gsfanatic gsfanatic
In almost every case (except the above bdsm pre-negotiated consent with safeword case), it becomes noncensensual
02/08/2013
Contributor: kkybf kkybf
yes
02/08/2013
Contributor: Geogeo Geogeo
Quote:
Originally posted by fizzygato
Well, is it?

Is consensual non-consent still consent?

Why or why not?

Voting private
Yes, that's consent
02/09/2013
Contributor: PropertyOfPotter PropertyOfPotter
Quote:
Originally posted by El-Jaro
If they say "no" at any point in time, I'm done. I don't play that yes/no stuff. It's a great way to get into trouble with the law.

If she says "no", but means "yes"...I guess that's her problem ... more
Well put.
02/09/2013
Contributor: table38792 table38792
I would say yes it is because you've agreed to the "forcing" beforehand but you should have a safeword just in case you want to stop.
02/09/2013
Contributor: chicmichiw chicmichiw
It's definitely consensual, so long as it was thoroughly planned at an earlier date with a full understanding of the situation on both parties' end
02/09/2013
Contributor: Alyona Alyona
Yes, it still is consent
02/11/2013
Contributor: Genderfree Genderfree
Consensual non-consent?
As long as you consent to the consensual non-consent being non-consented verbally.

Do you want some consent with your non-consent, or your non-consent on top of your consent?
02/16/2013
Contributor: bog bog
Quote:
Originally posted by fizzygato
Well, is it?

Is consensual non-consent still consent?

Why or why not?

Voting private
Highly dependent on the dynamic between the two individuals.
02/16/2013
Contributor: bratcat bratcat
everyone is giving great answers. If you are using a safe word it should always be respected, however if you have practicing BDSM fantasies with a gag,are into choking, or you partner is mute handsingles are also a treasure, as well as being able to ready body language too.
JR's response is very good too,because people are always allowed to make up their mind and "take it back" once consent has been given. so if there is not any sort of negotiation beforehand about a safe word or BDSM practices, you always should respect that persons feelings and be understanding about their wishes.
02/23/2013
Contributor: xOhxSoxScandalousx xOhxSoxScandalousx
Quote:
Originally posted by Ryuson
For sure, but if they ignore your safe-word it's not. If you give them consent to tie them up and have their way with you, no matter what you say other than your safe word, that's totally okay.
Agreed
06/28/2013
Contributor: Hallmar82 Hallmar82
Quote:
Originally posted by GONE!
Do you mean, like, a BDSM scene where it was all negotiated before hand?
I think so...as long as their is an established safe word then it's fine.
07/05/2013
Contributor: mailroomorder mailroomorder
Quote:
Originally posted by fizzygato
Well, is it?

Is consensual non-consent still consent?

Why or why not?

Voting private
This is a really delicate situation. It depends on the situation and the trust and if there are indisputable safe words involved.
07/05/2013
Contributor: lana'sart lana'sart
Quote:
Originally posted by Ryuson
For sure, but if they ignore your safe-word it's not. If you give them consent to tie them up and have their way with you, no matter what you say other than your safe word, that's totally okay.
that I agree with
07/24/2013
Contributor: HannahPanda HannahPanda
Yes!
07/24/2013
Contributor: AnotherBrother AnotherBrother
As long as the bottom can let you know that they want to stop, it's fine. If they tell you to stop at any point, stop. Past that, consent is consent.
08/31/2013
Contributor: SecretKinksters SecretKinksters
I believe it to be.
09/18/2013