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What has the Trayvon Martin shooting got to do with Rape Apology?

What has the Trayvon Martin shooting got to do with Rape Apology?
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Whether you stand for Trayvon Martin, or the neighborhood watchman who shot him, your arguments likely mirror those of “rape apologists.”

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I immediately noticed the similarity between rape victims and Trayvon; however, I can't say that I completely agree with your argument that Zimmerman was a victim and that we can't use his past or his actions against him.

I'm not saying that I think Zimmerman deserved to be assaulted, if he was assaulted, but his actions and his past are directly relevant to trying to piece together the sequence of events to determine if he is guilty or innocent. The courts need to take into account the number of phone calls he made to 911, that he was not officially appointed to the neighborhood watch, that he was carrying a weapon and that he continued to pursue Trayvon on foot despite being asked not to by the 911 operator. You absolutely need to focus on these facts to determine whether or not Zimmerman was assaulted or if Trayvon was simply "standing his ground" (as the Florida law states).

Carrying a weapon -while on self-appointed neighborhood watch duty- is ridiculously different than wearing a hoodie -in the rain while walking home from the store-. No, it doesn't mean he was out looking for someone to shoot. It does mean that he was being irresponsible, as he was not properly trained or certified/qualified to carry a firearm for such a position. Following someone who was walking home is creepy and would set them on edge, perhaps triggering a response where they want to defend themselves. Fight or flight, it's in our genes.

You had me until you tried to flip the argument to defend Zimmerman.

04/16/2012

"Contrary to the feministt dogma"

Can give me the ISBN # for the book feminist dogma you keep citing, despite several women studies classes it appears I was never issued one.

Every feminist every major feminist site I read has covered the case and point out how Trayvon is being put on trial for being murdered. Example: [http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2012/03/28/breaking-trayvon-martin-a-normal-teenage-boy/] and to make it perfectly clear here is the authors words from the comments:

"I do think that there are lots of important points to be made about victim-blaming across groups, and there are certainly parallels between this case and how many rape victims are treated"

Wow looks like she didn't read "Feminist Dogma" either. Strangely those where the same things I learned in my women studies class when we discussed cross-sectionality issues in feminism. Well, it appears that even universities don't have a copy of Feminist Dogma! Really Roland it is your duty to the good of public education to inform us of the location of this Tome of Feminist Dogma hundreds are being mis-educated in my university alone as we speak!!!

04/18/2012

"And finally, there was the gun. As a neighborhood watchman, George Zimmerman was not supposed to be armed, yet he’d left the house carrying his weapon anyway. That has led many critics to argue that Zimmerman was deliberately looking for an excuse to use his weapon, and provoked the confrontation with Trayvon specifically so he’d have an excuse to pull the trigger"

You do not load a gun unless you plan to use it. A gun is not the correct response to a hand fight. When people are panicked they just react. A gun is like a safety blanket, some one will grab for it in response to the fight or flight situation.

I appreciate how this article covers both sides and does not show preferance.

04/19/2012

I agree with Teacookie - I think, regardless of what you believe happened or what did happen, covering it from all angles does show a fair, well-written, thought-out article. I liked this one.

05/04/2012

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