Do you think video reviews are starting to go down or up hill?

MrRainybowbow MrRainybowbow
Im starting to notice every now and then someone achaully useing the toy and not really saying much on it(more so pornographic). Would you rather see it being used or described it?
Answers (private voting - your screen name will NOT appear in the results):
I'd rather it be described then used
125  (89%)
I'd rather see it being used
5  (4%)
Im not sure
10  (7%)
Total votes: 140
Poll is closed
02/11/2011
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PussyGalore PussyGalore
Love you all, don't want to see any of you naked. I just don't think it's necessary. The only example I can think of where nakedness is appropriate is if the user is reviewing nipple clamps. And...do we really need video reviews of clamps and cockrings any way? Probably not.
02/11/2011
Carrie Ann Carrie Ann
Just an FYI...

We have a few types of videos:

Manufacturer videos - which we get from the manufacturer of the products or that they upload on their own
Sneak peeks - Which are done in our office and are usually just a quick look at the toy, generally new toys
Video reviews -- which are done by our wonderful reviewing team and are meant to be a look at the toy, but not a full review
Adult reviews - which are meant to be sexy, adult, erotic and at least partially nude.

This is an adult site and we do tag our adult videos with a content warning so that those who choose not to view nudity do not come across it inadvertantly -- but these videos are done with our full sanction and at our request.
02/11/2011
~LaUr3n~ ~LaUr3n~
The video reviews you are talking about are actually a different KIND of video review. I would totally agree with you and did before I was educated on this. Compared to regular video reviews, they are usually not as informative/helpful/de scriptive, but that their aim or purpose. Those videos are called adult video reviews. I like to call the regular ones descriptive video reviews. Their aim is not to be informational per-say but to show a fun, flirty, or whimsical, short clip of the item. This often involves nudity. Hope that clears things up!
02/11/2011
~LaUr3n~ ~LaUr3n~
Quote:
Originally posted by Carrie Ann
Just an FYI...We have a few types of videos:Manufacturer videos - which we get from the manufacturer of the products or that they upload on their ownSneak peeks - Which are done in our office and are usually just a quick look at the toy, generally ... More
Looks like Carrie Ann was typing when I was!
02/11/2011
PussyGalore PussyGalore
Quote:
Originally posted by Carrie Ann
Just an FYI...We have a few types of videos:Manufacturer videos - which we get from the manufacturer of the products or that they upload on their ownSneak peeks - Which are done in our office and are usually just a quick look at the toy, generally ... More
Oooooooh!!! Now don't I feel like an ass? Thanks for clarifying Carrie Ann!
02/11/2011
ToyTimeTim ToyTimeTim
I like both. The regular video reviews are VERY helpful when looking at a toy, it makes it easier to see the size or shape that can hard to judge from just a picture.
The Sexy ones are just plain fun to watch and can sometimes give you an idea on how they can be used.
02/11/2011
Victoria Victoria
Quote:
Originally posted by ToyTimeTim
I like both. The regular video reviews are VERY helpful when looking at a toy, it makes it easier to see the size or shape that can hard to judge from just a picture.
The Sexy ones are just plain fun to watch and can sometimes give you an idea on ... More
I totally agree
02/11/2011
Kindred Kindred
I love some of the adult videos for their entertainment value. They tend to be very well produced, artistic, erotic and creative.
02/11/2011
~LaUr3n~ ~LaUr3n~
Quote:
Originally posted by ToyTimeTim
I like both. The regular video reviews are VERY helpful when looking at a toy, it makes it easier to see the size or shape that can hard to judge from just a picture.
The Sexy ones are just plain fun to watch and can sometimes give you an idea on ... More
I like them both as well. I prefer to have a regular video review and having an adult one is a sweet bonus.
02/11/2011
ScottA ScottA
So, silly question: does having the "adult video review" eliminate the possibility of a descriptive video review? As I understand there is to be only one video review per product, correct?
02/11/2011
ToyTimeTim ToyTimeTim
Quote:
Originally posted by ScottA
So, silly question: does having the "adult video review" eliminate the possibility of a descriptive video review? As I understand there is to be only one video review per product, correct?
I am pretty sure there can be both. I do believe the Pure Wand has one of each.
02/11/2011
Carrie Ann Carrie Ann
Quote:
Originally posted by ScottA
So, silly question: does having the "adult video review" eliminate the possibility of a descriptive video review? As I understand there is to be only one video review per product, correct?
Nope. There can be both since they are so different. Just like we have sneak peeks, manufacturer vids/commercials and our video reviews all for the same product.
02/11/2011
Vaccinium Vaccinium
I like the breadth of reviews. The more straightforward, clinical reviews sell the product (or don't sell, if the product doesn't live up to expectations), but the more erotic, humorous, or artistic ones are fun to watch and deal with the mood the item in question elicits. I wouldn't want to see all technical reviews or all the more creative reviews, but some of each is good for keeping EF educational AND fun.
02/11/2011
VenusianThunder VenusianThunder
Quote:
Originally posted by Carrie Ann
Just an FYI...We have a few types of videos:Manufacturer videos - which we get from the manufacturer of the products or that they upload on their ownSneak peeks - Which are done in our office and are usually just a quick look at the toy, generally ... More
Wow, did not know that!
Good to know! Thanks, Carrie Ann!

I happen to enjoy both, but I would rather have the descriptive regular review if given a choice.
02/11/2011
Alan & Michele Alan & Michele
This confused us too because we saw a video "review" the other day that was nothing but somebody masturbating. All it said about the product was that it was discreet and waterproof, so we were like WTF?! Thanks for explaining the different types
02/12/2011
Jobthingy Jobthingy
Quote:
Originally posted by ToyTimeTim
I like both. The regular video reviews are VERY helpful when looking at a toy, it makes it easier to see the size or shape that can hard to judge from just a picture.
The Sexy ones are just plain fun to watch and can sometimes give you an idea on ... More
Ditto.
02/12/2011
leatherlover leatherlover
I enjoy both kinds of video reviews.
02/12/2011
Eliza Eliza
Haha, I'm glad someone explained that there are multiple types of video reviews. I remember the first time I came across a video where the reviewer started using the toy. I was shocked, to say the least. I don't mind them now, but I was certainly surprised the first time.
02/12/2011
liilii080 liilii080
Ha, this explains a lot! I was a little confused when I first joined and the explicit videos didn't show the features of the toy but in my head I was thinking it was better than nothing!
02/12/2011
Owl Identified Owl Identified
I wish there were a more up front way of advertising/explaining the different types of reviews because I'm sure there are others that didn't catch this thread that are also confused. Maybe in the future the cover on adult videos could be changed to "adult preview" or something so viewers understand it's just a sexy look at the product, not a run down of its functions? Something to consider.

As mentioned above a product can have both an adult and a descriptive review, so as long as someone volunteers for the descriptive review of a product there is no reason why there shouldn't be both! They both serve their purpose and I create and watch both - I would hate to see either of them not understood and appreciated for what they are!
02/12/2011
SexyTabby SexyTabby
I didn't realize there were different types of video reviews. I'm not overly technical so accomplishing a simple one would probably do me in.

I voted "rather described" because I can get the hands on info visually but yeah I didn't realize there were so many different kinds of video reviews. I've seen the manufacture ones and they are fairly general so I don't watch them often. Did come across one in use and thought wow didn't need to see all that lol but yeah if they are for that category of video review then why would anyone have a problem with them. It's okay to see some toys in use - others I'd probably just skip over though.

Like was already stated it's an adult site and it's just another way to market adult toys.
02/12/2011
closed account closed account
I think any kind of x rated or risque video should be on members blog. A link is fine, but on here, words as opposed to visuals. I don't mind explicit details in review though.
02/13/2011
Not here Not here
Like Carrie Ann described above, the videos with nudity in them are supposed to have nudity in them, and are meant to be more of a commercial rather than a description of the product.

IMO, it's very simple to distinguish the adult reviews from the "regular" video reviews, because the adult ones have the cover page on them that clearly state the video contains nudity. Adult videos require nudity, or very close to it, to be classified as adult- it's not like we're just showing off our tits and ass to get attention. I think the cover page basically states to the viewer- "This has nudity. If you don't like it, don't watch it."

As a person who does a lot of adult video reviews, I can assure you that they aren't as simple as whipping out the camera and getting naked. A lot of creative process, along with time and effort in the editing process is involved to make these videos appealing- after all, there are few ways to promote an adult product without using words or having the video become totally pornographic.

I'm not getting defensive, but I am curious to know why you would consider these videos to be going downhill- are you saying that the video reviews as a whole are going downhill, or just the adult ones? Regardless of which category, what makes a video review any better than the next one? Each product presents a unique set of challenges, so it is a bit like comparing apples to oranges in some cases.
02/13/2011
SexyStuff SexyStuff
When I am wondering about the functions and size and 360 degree look of the toy I prefer the descriptive reviews, but the partially nude ones are fun to watch for toys I've never tried out before.
02/13/2011
Emma (Girl With Fire) Emma (Girl With Fire)
I didn't realize that the descriptive reviews were still accepted once an adult review had been done. I had a couple that I wanted to do and didn't for exactly that reason. I am glad though, because I was really disappointed a couple of times when I actually wanted to learn about the product before reading through 5 reviews.
02/13/2011
Josh aka FootMan Josh aka FootMan
This here should clarify any confusion surrounding the point of the adult videos, or they way in which they can be identified or differentiated.

As a major contributor to the adult reviews on EF, I will I say I was a bit disturbed to come across this post. We're all entitled to our opinions, but a simple explanation for the generalization of the entire group of contributors as "going down hill" would have been nice from those who feel this way.

That said, there is a time and a place for both types of videos. We choose to do adult videos because there are more perks to adult videos than there are for regular, descriptive reviews. These videos have two very separate and distinct purposes which need to be reflected in the video "review" for it to qualify or fit the criteria.

I guess I kind of just wish people would be a bit less ignorant and would present their complaints and criticisms in a more constructive manner.

That said, there are times when Jes and I struggle to find a creative and "slightly less than pornographic" way to show the toy in a unique and sexy light without making each video into an infomercial or late night HBO production. We generally try to include some type of humor to keep things fun and light, while still showing the toy in a way that the viewer can understand the shape and size of the toy, and how it might be used.

Our goal is not to sell the features of the toy, EF and the manufacturer of the product are responsible for that - if my job/goal here were marketing I would be getting reimbursed in a much bigger way. Jes and I don't do commercials and we don't want to either, we are creative and fun people who do not wish to take on the responsibilities or difficulties of marketing a sex toy. Think of the adult video reviews as more of a skit meant to show the toy in a less "clinical" light, and forget the word "review" even exists when watching the adult videos, as reviewing the product was never meant to be the goal of the adult videos.
02/13/2011
Emma (Girl With Fire) Emma (Girl With Fire)
Quote:
Originally posted by Josh aka FootMan
This here should clarify any confusion surrounding the point of the adult videos, or they way in which they can be identified or differentiated.

As a major contributor to the adult reviews on EF, I will I say I was a bit disturbed to come ... More
I fully agree with your standpoint. I actually feel that I should have read through this thread before answering because I was under the impression that the situation was an either/or per product deal. When I am watching a video review I feel like I am getting a concentrated summary of the product, and if I need more information I will read through a few reviews. I certainly enjoy watching the adult videos, but when I wan't information, they aren't really of much use to me. Now that I know that contributors will still be motivated to produce the descriptive videos I would absolutely change my vote. Who could argue with MORE options for viewing a product?

I think a lot of people who voted that the reviews are going downhill were probably under the same impression.
02/13/2011
Josh aka FootMan Josh aka FootMan
Quote:
Originally posted by Emma (Girl With Fire)
I fully agree with your standpoint. I actually feel that I should have read through this thread before answering because I was under the impression that the situation was an either/or per product deal. When I am watching a video review I feel like I ... More
I would love to see more well done descriptive video reviews by intelligent and articulate people like yourself.

Jes and I don't do descriptive reviews because it just wouldn't be fair for us to do an adult and a descriptive review for the same product.

I'm not offended by the results of the poll, there are many, many contributors as a whole in the video review program and so I reflect on the results above as being more of an issue on EF's part in making the video review program more accessible or more understood by its members.

Unfortunately the forums here are a massive web of wonderful information that is difficult to sift through and results in massive amounts of confusion and double posts. It would be nice to have maybe a page, not a forum, devoted to describing the ins and outs of programs such as the adult and non adult video review programs and their purposes. This could also be done to describe porn club, lit club, and just about anything EF without peoples opinions convoluting the the facts. Think of it as an "EF information hub" - Maybe the community can comment on what they think about the programs here, likes dislikes etc- so EF could get feedback about their ideas and programs. Also, the community would be able to discuss possibilities or suggestions in moving forward. Again this shouldn't be a forum type setting but maybe more of what you tend to see on news sites where the information is presented to the reader and then there is space for comments below.

University of EF, anyone?

T-shirts and hoodies to go with?
02/13/2011
Emma (Girl With Fire) Emma (Girl With Fire)
Quote:
Originally posted by Josh aka FootMan
I would love to see more well done descriptive video reviews by intelligent and articulate people like yourself.

Jes and I don't do descriptive reviews because it just wouldn't be fair for us to do an adult and a descriptive review for ... More
I agree, much of the information on EF is relatively inaccessible to the public because they either do not know how to navigate threads in the forum (searching topics) or because the information is outdated. I recently recommended at the CEC that they update their FAQs because there is hardly ANY information to be found there and it is probably causing an overwhelming amount of confusion and unnecessary support tickets. I think the same needs to be done with the review and video review information. Most of the info is on the Eden blog, but I don't even know how to get to that and I have been around for 6 months.

There is a LOT of information that Eden has provided for their customers and contributors and there is a large amount of it that many of the contributors don't even know exists. I think what needs to happen is a combination of a sitemap being added and the appropriate links being available on pages where people would actually be trying to find the information from.

By the way, I actually have done a couple of reviews I plan to do many more too!
02/13/2011
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