Selling sex toys to minors

Kayla Kayla
What, exactly, is the law for this? Not that I'm looking into it, but I bought my first vibrator when I was 15 without any ask for ID or anything. Does the toy have to resemble genitals to make you need to be IDed?

I bought it in a ..hmm...I don't know what to call it. It's called "Spencers" if you've ever heard of it. They sell "alternative" stuff. Like marijuana paraphernalia, playboy bunny clothes, offensive t-shirts, and they just have a little corner dedicated to vibrators.

So what is the rule on that? Just curious, because I was one nervous little girl when I went to pick it out. Then I hid it in my purse until I got home.
12/11/2009
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Gary Gary
That is quite a 'red alert' title you chose!

In general, anything related to this topic is legal for ages 18 and up. But, this can vary between states of course. That does raise an interesting question for drug stores and Walmarts that I have heard of carrying basic items. As for Spencers, I would imagine that there are a number of things they sell that are kind of in the gray.
12/11/2009
Kayla Kayla
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Originally posted by Gary
That is quite a 'red alert' title you chose!In general, anything related to this topic is legal for ages 18 and up. But, this can vary between states of course. That does raise an interesting question for drug stores and Walmarts that I have ... More
Sorry. Didn't mean to be a scary title. Just seemed appropriate.

Walmarts carry lube, condoms, and some possible disposable vibrators. Do they carry more fun things that I've been missing out on all this time??
12/11/2009
J's Alley J's Alley
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Originally posted by Kayla
Sorry. Didn't mean to be a scary title. Just seemed appropriate.

Walmarts carry lube, condoms, and some possible disposable vibrators. Do they carry more fun things that I've been missing out on all this time??
Massagers...
12/11/2009
J's Alley J's Alley
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Originally posted by Kayla
Sorry. Didn't mean to be a scary title. Just seemed appropriate.

Walmarts carry lube, condoms, and some possible disposable vibrators. Do they carry more fun things that I've been missing out on all this time??
Spencers is supposed to ID...they are supposed to carry those things behind the counter as well, not in plain view. They usually don't check ID because their main audience is high school aged kids.

Also, as far as I believe sex toys themselves are limited to 18 and over nationally, and 21 and older in states that choose to raise the age (I think that is stupid though).
12/11/2009
Jen&Clint Jen&Clint
I know the only way they could get away with it is by selling it as something different. I remember a few years back going into hot topics and buying this cigg case no ID nothing, the guy told me that they have to label it as a credit card/ID case cause of the fact they are not suppose to be selling things like that.

For stores like Spencers and Hot Topics they have no age rule to who can shop there and what you can buy. Now adult shops you must be 18 to enter. That is kinda odd that Spencers would have stuff like that but then again it is Spencers and just about everything they have is meant for novelty only. The store rocks though
12/11/2009
Sir Sir
Quite honestly, I do not like this topic. People always talk about "safe sex" to children, yet high school students cannot buy sex toys under eighteen? How can a person have safe sex if they cannot buy condoms underage? Also, to keep from STDs and pregnancy of teens altogether, why NOT allow them to buy sex toys for themselves? Makes no sense to me, it's flawed logic.

But yes, it is illegal to buy them for people underage, just like it's illegal to buy a pack of cigarettes and give it to a person who is, say, fifteen or fourteen. What's the rule? They should not have sold it to you at that time, and they can get into trouble for having done that.
12/11/2009
MuffysPinguLove MuffysPinguLove
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Originally posted by Sir
Quite honestly, I do not like this topic. People always talk about "safe sex" to children, yet high school students cannot buy sex toys under eighteen? How can a person have safe sex if they cannot buy condoms underage? Also, to keep ... More
I completely agree with Sir, I understand the point of the law I've just never understood the logic behind it.
12/11/2009
Gary Gary
I have a feeling that trying to legally regulate some of these things would cause an all out war between different 'groups'.
12/11/2009
Sir Sir
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Originally posted by Gary
I have a feeling that trying to legally regulate some of these things would cause an all out war between different 'groups'.
Well, yes, it would indeed.
12/11/2009
Sir Sir
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Originally posted by Sir
Well, yes, it would indeed.
It's just the same as trying to regulate things like strip clubs and prostitution. And the result always turns out to be that regulation is better than outright bans.
12/11/2009
Johndoe Johndoe
Actually, I believe it's perfectly legal to sell condoms to minors. As far as I know, the supreme court made it illegal to outlaw contraceptive sales to minors. (Link:link)

Please note, It's been a while since I argued the case and actually did research. I'm hoping this is still relevant information that I'm lifting from an old research paper.

As to sex toys, I believe that the area is much more gray than black and white. Many states have different laws and interpretations of those laws. Some states will ban "personal massagers", while others do not for instance. In some states there is actually no ban on minors buying sex toys, but rather on minors entering a sex shop in the first place.

Really it all seems pretty silly and counterproductive to me. The internet exists; porn & sex toys abound will manage to infiltrate into minors hands-as well as other areas. Instead of creating such an infuriating legal system that works against business and consumers, why not just let what will be, be? Just because 16 year old Billy gets his hand on a fleshlight, or 17 year old sally gets a vibrator doesn't mean they'll suddenly become flaming heathens =/. Hell, the argument could be made that restricting sex toys actually increases teen sexual activity.

I'm ranting now, but the topic is really confounding to me. Whatever happened to common sense?
12/11/2009
Frostheart Frostheart
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Originally posted by Kayla
What, exactly, is the law for this? Not that I'm looking into it, but I bought my first vibrator when I was 15 without any ask for ID or anything. Does the toy have to resemble genitals to make you need to be IDed?

I bought it in a ... More
I remember going in Spencer's Gifts when I was young. It was sort of a thrill to look at the vibrators they sold there. Ahhh, to be young and innocent, lol!
12/17/2009
Alan & Michele Alan & Michele
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Originally posted by Sir
Quite honestly, I do not like this topic. People always talk about "safe sex" to children, yet high school students cannot buy sex toys under eighteen? How can a person have safe sex if they cannot buy condoms underage? Also, to keep ... More
Well said! The logic is flawed indeed.
12/17/2009
El-Jaro El-Jaro
In these cases, the people who make up the conservative based laws see regulation as a form of acceptance. They won't curb their ideals to make such a thing happen.

Only the Sith and Conservatives deal in absolutes...
12/17/2009
Viktor Vysheslav Malkin Viktor Vysheslav Malkin
I have never been in a Spencers believe it or not. I didn't know anyone under 18 was allowed in one, maybe I am just Naive or something. I just knew I never had the opportunity to go into one.

I know its legal where I live for minors to buy condoms, whether you agree or disagree its legal. Also seen condom vending machines around, along with novelty (aka joke condoms) around which is very safe for a youngster to get ahold of...of course that was sarcasm...

I am not one to debate whether they should be or not be allowed, I'd rather not debate

All i can say is 18 seems like an suggestible age, seeing how everything else is (Porn, guns (might be 21), cigs, and enlistment to the military). Not that they are all the same). Even saying that opens up a can of worms and people may disagree, but hey oh well...
12/19/2009
Sammi Sammi
We were at the mall today, which has a Spencer's. They didn't seem to mind when we all walked in, and there were a lot of younger (pretty obviously not 18) people in the store. Towards the back (where I did not let my kids go) there were about 3 aisles of various toys & lingerie, all on display. I don't know if they would card if someone under 18 tried to buy one, but they certainly let anyone go back and check out what they have.
12/19/2009
anelinvader anelinvader
I remember going in to spencer's when my girlfriend (now wife) we were 16 and 15 looking at and even buying vibes with out showing id but that was also 14-15 years ago things might have changed.

But with this in this age of things I beleave a good open relationship between parent and teen is a must and they should feel comfortable coming to you if the need some thing
12/20/2009
Owl Identified Owl Identified
My first vibrator was from a Spencer's and they didn't ID me. They are supposed to, as far as I can tell, because the vibrators are labeled as such.

I definitely agree with Sir, though. I think the laws are pretty counter-intuitive.
12/20/2009
Dragon Dragon
So what exactly is the law?

Can Eden sell toys to minors? Can someone buy a gift for a minor? I'm actually pretty curious. REMEMBER I have the adolescent, and I'm pretty much surrounded by teenagers right now.

In the middle of teenage drama at the moment. The daughter of one of my extremely good friends apparently has nothing but sex on the mind, has asked her mom to get her on birth control and is sneaking around in the middle of the night with a boy (unknown to mom.) Mom would actually be thrilled if said child got a toy!
12/21/2009
athenaa athenaa
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Originally posted by Sir
Quite honestly, I do not like this topic. People always talk about "safe sex" to children, yet high school students cannot buy sex toys under eighteen? How can a person have safe sex if they cannot buy condoms underage? Also, to keep ... More
As the mother of a teen I couldn't agree more. I would rather her have a safe toy than something going too far in the back seat of a car.lol
01/27/2010
J's Alley J's Alley
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Originally posted by Dragon
So what exactly is the law?

Can Eden sell toys to minors? Can someone buy a gift for a minor? I'm actually pretty curious. REMEMBER I have the adolescent, and I'm pretty much surrounded by teenagers right now.

In the middle ... More
DBD, I know our laws state a minor cannot purchase a toy. Nothing is mentioned about them having toys...see how that works. You could likely ask a store owner though. I would rather my teenage daughters (in 10 years anyway) use a toy and know her body than sneak around.
01/27/2010
Kayla Kayla
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Originally posted by J's Alley
DBD, I know our laws state a minor cannot purchase a toy. Nothing is mentioned about them having toys...see how that works. You could likely ask a store owner though. I would rather my teenage daughters (in 10 years anyway) use a toy and know her ... More
That's true. I never thought about that law. I know you can't purchase other things for minors, but sex toys? Iunno.
01/27/2010
Dragon Dragon
I'd love to see Eden respond with what the definitive answer actually is...
01/27/2010
Chilipepper Chilipepper
Spencer's is hiding behind the concept that it's all 'gag and novelty - really honest', even though some of the things in their sex section are stuff you'd find in any mid-grade porn shop (vibes, lingerie, sex games, BDSM items, oils, lubes, etc). They are supposed to ID, but those kids behind the counters (at least here) are a little too much into the 420 aspects of the place to really care.

My parents used to take me into Spencer's when I was little (this was about 78/79) and there was no problem. My mother says that the humor's gotten too far into the bathroom, but she remembers it as more of a headshop back in the day - that's where she got all of those Alice in Wonderland blacklight posters she'd color for my room.

Personally, I'd rather let minors buy sex toys and condoms and whatnot - it's a springboard for proper sex education instead of fumbling around in the dark and ruining your life because of natural events.
01/27/2010
Kynky Kytty Kynky Kytty
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Originally posted by Sir
Quite honestly, I do not like this topic. People always talk about "safe sex" to children, yet high school students cannot buy sex toys under eighteen? How can a person have safe sex if they cannot buy condoms underage? Also, to keep ... More
Where I live, there are community centers were minors can get condoms for free.
01/27/2010
TitsMcScandal TitsMcScandal
I've bought toys for minors before. I personally think that teenagers should be able to buy them. I mean, they can buy condoms for sex but not sex toys? That just confuses me. I've bought 10+ girls sex toys. Ages 15-17. So... I'm definitely one for minors having toys.
01/28/2010
El-Jaro El-Jaro
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Originally posted by Chilipepper
Spencer's is hiding behind the concept that it's all 'gag and novelty - really honest', even though some of the things in their sex section are stuff you'd find in any mid-grade porn shop (vibes, lingerie, sex games, BDSM items, ... More
I used to work for Glow (division of Spencers) before they closed it down a few years ago.

When I was working there it was common knowledge to the employees that about 80% of the workforce in both chains was not fully straight.

just thought I'd point that out here.
01/28/2010
Heather Heather
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Originally posted by TitsMcScandal
I've bought toys for minors before. I personally think that teenagers should be able to buy them. I mean, they can buy condoms for sex but not sex toys? That just confuses me. I've bought 10+ girls sex toys. Ages 15-17. So... I'm ... More
JonsBabydoll please tell me you didn't really buy sex toys for girls 10 or 11yrs old or even 15. As a parent I have very mixed emotions on the subject but agree that Sir has a good point. Yes I want my kids when they are old enough to have safe sex but that is up to me and my husband not a stranger purchasing and I assume telling my child how to use a sex toy. All of you are well aware there are many layers to sex and expecting a child to have the maturity level to understand and cope is expecting way too much and can be dangerous.
01/28/2010
TitsMcScandal TitsMcScandal
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Originally posted by Heather
JonsBabydoll please tell me you didn't really buy sex toys for girls 10 or 11yrs old or even 15. As a parent I have very mixed emotions on the subject but agree that Sir has a good point. Yes I want my kids when they are old enough to have safe ... More
15, yes. I don't think I would buy for younger than 15. I understand that as a parent there are issues there, however I was not a stranger to any of these girls. I assume that you realize that having a sex toy does not mean you are sexually active, so saying "many layers to sex and expecting a child to have the maturity level to understand and cope is expecting way too much and can be dangerous." is irrelevant. My opinion is that sex toys should be available from the age 15 and up.

When I said 10+ I meant the amount of girls that I had bought for. I see how there can be confusion there. But I stated in the next statement "Ages 15-17". The girls were high school. Assaulted by sex sex sex.

IMHO, it does not take maturity to masturbate. You may disagree with my stance though.
01/29/2010
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