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Contributor: Bunnycups Bunnycups
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Originally posted by markeagleone
In a way I agree, it was morally wrong, but it was still a freedom granted in this country. My response to what happened is that we, as people of the U.S., given those freedoms that conflict with other peoples of this world, then we do not belong ... more
I agree with you 100%.
04/06/2011
Contributor: Redboxbaby Redboxbaby
Funny how this is the first post ever done by my husband. We both served active duty, me for eight years and my husband is a few years from retirement. Freedom is one thing we hold very dear - as we have both fought for it. When people start believing that we should be taking our freedoms away to appease others, or for the illusion of safety/security, it makes us feel like we fought for nothing. Do you really believe that Americans right now are not dying just for being American? Do you really think that the terrorists somehow, some way, would not have acted regardless of what one person in Florida did? I am pretty sure they would have found a reason regardless.

Did the actions of one person in Florida kill people? Directly, of course not. Indirectly, maybe. However, it is our belief that he absolutely had the right to do it, and the government should NOT have any say about it. In fact, the government should have stated exactly that - that they don't condone the action, but support his right to do it.

Far to often we sit back and watch people in "other" countries burn our flag, burn images of our leaders, burn the bible, ect. and we do nothing, say nothing. By not acting, we are condoning their actions and supporting their actions. However, when an American exercises his freedom and right, our elected president speaks out against it?

Perhaps I am of the older generation - one that is proud of our country and the freedoms we had. The moment we start losing them (and we already have), we as a nation become weaker.

The great Benjamin Franklin once stated: "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety". This is still true today.
04/06/2011
Contributor: markeagleone markeagleone
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Originally posted by Redboxbaby
Funny how this is the first post ever done by my husband. We both served active duty, me for eight years and my husband is a few years from retirement. Freedom is one thing we hold very dear - as we have both fought for it. When people start ... more
I agree 100%
04/06/2011
Contributor: married with children married with children
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Originally posted by Ansley
Provoking a terrorist group is a pretty shitty thing to do, regardless. He should be brought up on charges. Set precedent. He KNEW what would happen. Had been warned a dozen times...did it anyway and now people are dead. The attack on the UN ... more
No one knows what will happen in the future because of ones actions. If you want to set a precedent on this, then what about 9/11. who do we jail for all those deaths?

I think there are alot of misunderstandings about terrorist's. Terrorist use terror to force their beliefs on others. You either believe in their way of life, or you die. That is the only 2 options they know.

lets put the blame where it belongs. On the terrorist's, not the pastor. Was the pastor wrong? Yes. Did he harm anyone? No.
04/07/2011
Contributor: married with children married with children
I find it alittle sad that in the minute or two that it took to read the question and pick your answer, that 67% so far have so easily given up some of their freedoms. The freedom that you and I enjoy was not given freely. My family died so that we could speak our minds, among other things. That is a luxury that many people in this world do not get. It is not something that should be given up lightly. I would fight to my last dying breath so that my kids may have the freedoms given to us by our forefathers.
04/07/2011
Contributor: K101 K101
As a Christian, I myself wouldn't burn someone else's bible even if it's not my on. However, I think Obama is only taking away our rights one by one, but he disguises it well. I believe in freedom of speech and I feel that O-freaking-bama had no right jumping in and stopping free speech. Not to mention the reason why he had such a problem with the burning of the Qaran or whatever it's called was a personal problem. If he can't even keep his personal insecurities/issues out of the office, he needs to kindly step out. I absolutely despise him. I don't agree with burning someone's bible, at all. I'd be furious if someone burned mine, but what Obama did was just as low. He stooped down to a level that really effects us all. Time to grow up, I say.
04/14/2011
Contributor: K101 K101
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Originally posted by El-Jaro
Love that last line.
Me too!
04/14/2011
Contributor: Errant Venture Errant Venture
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Originally posted by El-Jaro
I think the call was right.



One of America's strongest points is that it is not a one-religion country; therefore not compelled to align itself with one religion over another. True, Christianity as a whole is the predominate ... more
I agree, though I didn't vote, as I felt the 'yes, the government should condemn people on their free speach choice's' to be too inflammatory as an answer, and an inaccurate one at that. Yes, you have the right to free speech, but that doesn't give you the right to say whatever the hell you want. Burning the Qur'an is actually one of the worst things you could do in Muslim culture.
11/05/2011
Contributor: Errant Venture Errant Venture
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Originally posted by markeagleone
In a way I agree, it was morally wrong, but it was still a freedom granted in this country. My response to what happened is that we, as people of the U.S., given those freedoms that conflict with other peoples of this world, then we do not belong ... more
Technically speaking, the group who burns the most American flags are your scouts ...
11/05/2011
Contributor: Errant Venture Errant Venture
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Originally posted by Errant Venture
I agree, though I didn't vote, as I felt the 'yes, the government should condemn people on their free speach choice's' to be too inflammatory as an answer, and an inaccurate one at that. Yes, you have the right to free speech, but ... more
Bugger, that 'that doesn't give you the right' line is incorrect. For a start, it's an oxymoron. Rather 'doesn't mean you can abuse your responsibility'. Abuse, at the very least, is a frown-able offence . I think I got confused by my girl saying 'doesn't give you the right to be a fuckwit' in my ear .
11/05/2011
Contributor: MooRawr MooRawr
I do think it was wrong but sadly it was the pastor's right as an American to practice freedom of speech he's just like Westboro Baptist Church group.
11/14/2011
Contributor: Entropy Entropy
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Originally posted by married with children
Who thinks that obama did the right thing by condemning the pastor in Florida for burning the koran? Ill make it private so no one feels like they might get some backlash for their poll answer. Feel free to expand on your answer.
Don't condemn it and you're supporting hate speech. Condemn it and you're prohibiting freedom of speech. Tough call, but in the end I think he acted appropriately. By the way, I don't care for how you formulated the answers to your poll. It seems like you're trying to press responses into a very narrow direction.
12/24/2011
Contributor: Ms. Spice Ms. Spice
wow, can we say a loaded question? lol the wording should have been a little less biased, especially since it's such a sensitive question. I didn't answer because it should have had different wording.

There's a fine line between freedom of speech and then saying something that causes harm. I have no issue with someone who maybe doesn't like the Koran and stating that they don't like it, but he was talking about possibly inciting a terrorist attack. It's still close minded because the Koran actually emphasized the idea of peace more than the Bible has lol

He's lucky the only thing that Obama did was call him out on it. Had he gone through with it, and people were harmed, I would have fully expected his ass to get arrested and put in Guantanamo Bay.
01/28/2012
Contributor: bettle590 bettle590
I'm confused- was the priest legally punished in any way, or did the president just disapprove of it? because free speech is not unopposed speech, and if someone burns the koran you're allowed to say it's not right.
10/31/2012
Contributor: Experiment Experiment
He was condemning it, not sicking the army on him.

Obama didn't infringe on his rights, but expressed how his opinions go against the american spirit an endanger national security.
10/31/2012
Contributor: gsfanatic gsfanatic
I'd argue that he was entirely free to condemn the action, as long as he took no concrete actions. Discouraging people from using free speech to anger or offend others is a good thing
11/02/2012
Contributor: pussy licker pussy licker
terrorist kill because that is what they do.
11/02/2012