No way! PP provides much more than just abortions, especially for thoes with lower incomes.
Do you think Planned Parenthoods should be closed down?
05/11/2013
I think it would be insane to close it down and take away that option. If you don't like it don't use it but everyone has the right to choose.
05/11/2013
Overall, its the womens choice as to if she wants to keep her baby or not. I do not agree with abortion but I disagree on having a baby if you can't even support yourself or if you have a medical condition in which you and the baby could die.
05/11/2013
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While i agree with you view that it's a decision left to the person choosing to have the abortion, PP provides so many other life-saving services -like cancer screenings, HIV/AIDs & STD/STI testing - and abortion is just a small percentage of the programs offered there.
Originally posted by
Soulsekrou
Overall, its the womens choice as to if she wants to keep her baby or not. I do not agree with abortion but I disagree on having a baby if you can't even support yourself or if you have a medical condition in which you and the baby could die.
05/12/2013
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No way. I'd have probably needed their help if I hadn't gotten sterilized while I was on TriCare. I was denied for sterilization by five different doctors and I got frustrated. So I called PP up and asked if they did Essure placements, and sure enough, they did! And when I [i]finally[/i] got a doctor to say yes to me, I was thrilled. PP did call me a week later and asked about my progress and they were happy for me. Just that nice courtesy call of checking in on me was a good impression.
Originally posted by
mailroomorder
With all these debates and cuts to Planned Parenthoods, I was wondering what everyone as thinking. So many people nowadays think that they are only useful for abortions and neglect to understand what their purpose really is in a community.
05/12/2013
Not a chance! Planned Parenthood provides vital healthcare to women who would no otherwise be able to afford it. They do more than abortion services. They also provide cancer screenings, testing for STI's, and birth control services.
05/12/2013
Absolutely not! These are important and a vital source of help and information for many women.
05/13/2013
Of course not! It's a great place. If it wasn't for them, who knows what would've happened to me. I didn't have insurance and was going there for yearly exams, they caught pre-cancerous cells in my cervix and I to get surgery. I'm thankful for a place like that! I couldn't afford to go to a doctor's office!
05/15/2013
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Yes, I believe that at one time Gosnell was affiliated with PP, but the late term abortions for which he was just convicted of (abortions past the time limit PA has set and the death of one women undergoing a late term abortion) were all in his private clinic.
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FieryRed
P'Gell, thank you so much for finding and posting reliable information on this case. In fact, it was my understanding from what I'd read about it that this "doctor" was operating a private clinic, and was not related to Planned Parenthood in any way.
Late term abortion is a sad thing, but they often happen because women simply cannot get health care in time or because of a later pregnancy or fetal problem.
The reason I mentioned Gosnell was that an other poster attributed Gosnell's actions as being typical of Planned Parenthood clinics in general, (as he once worked for them) and I was trying to refute that accusation. Most PPs do not do abortions at the later pregnancy stages that Gosnell did, but an other poster said that his actions were common for PP.
FTR, less than 2% of Planned Parenthood's actions are related to abortion. The rest of their actions are women's health care.
05/15/2013
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YES to all of that. I just want to add, in response your reminder that "less than 2% of Planned Parenthood's actions are related to abortion. The rest of their actions are women's health care"; actually, ALL of their actions fit the category of women's (and sometimes men's) healthcare, including pregnancy terminations.
Originally posted by
P'Gell
Yes, I believe that at one time Gosnell was affiliated with PP, but the late term abortions for which he was just convicted of (abortions past the time limit PA has set and the death of one women undergoing a late term abortion) were all in his
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Yes, I believe that at one time Gosnell was affiliated with PP, but the late term abortions for which he was just convicted of (abortions past the time limit PA has set and the death of one women undergoing a late term abortion) were all in his private clinic.
Late term abortion is a sad thing, but they often happen because women simply cannot get health care in time or because of a later pregnancy or fetal problem.
The reason I mentioned Gosnell was that an other poster attributed Gosnell's actions as being typical of Planned Parenthood clinics in general, (as he once worked for them) and I was trying to refute that accusation. Most PPs do not do abortions at the later pregnancy stages that Gosnell did, but an other poster said that his actions were common for PP.
FTR, less than 2% of Planned Parenthood's actions are related to abortion. The rest of their actions are women's health care. less
Late term abortion is a sad thing, but they often happen because women simply cannot get health care in time or because of a later pregnancy or fetal problem.
The reason I mentioned Gosnell was that an other poster attributed Gosnell's actions as being typical of Planned Parenthood clinics in general, (as he once worked for them) and I was trying to refute that accusation. Most PPs do not do abortions at the later pregnancy stages that Gosnell did, but an other poster said that his actions were common for PP.
FTR, less than 2% of Planned Parenthood's actions are related to abortion. The rest of their actions are women's health care. less
05/18/2013
Definitely not!! Once my health insurance goes away at the end of the year, I know they'll be who I turn to.
05/29/2013
Definitely not! Planned Parenthood has always been a source for birth control to low income people along with STD testing.
05/31/2013
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Planned Parenthood is an absolute godsend and whoever thinks they should be shut down ought to be ashamed of themselves. It was because of PP that I've been able to get regular women's health exams when no one else would see me because I had no insurance, and they helped me find counseling during and after an abusive relationship. I had an appointment with them last week to have an IUD replaced and they were utterly spectacular as always. I really love the organization as a whole for what they do for women.
Originally posted by
mailroomorder
With all these debates and cuts to Planned Parenthoods, I was wondering what everyone as thinking. So many people nowadays think that they are only useful for abortions and neglect to understand what their purpose really is in a community.
Even if they were "just" for abortions, those are still necessary medical procedures, and that's a whole other debate I'd rather not get into...
06/10/2013
Absolutely NOT. People need all kinds of help and they serve their purpose. Take it from someone who wishes that they were older before starting a family.
06/10/2013
I actually see a lot of problems for the UK's way of doing abortions. Women would have a harder time getting back to work, especially if they were a poor woman from Northern Ireland who had to go to England for an abortion to begin with, then has to stay overnight, and what does she do with her kids? What if she is a single mom with no family? What if she doesn't want her family to know she is getting an abortion because they will judge or harm her in some way? There are serious domestic violence and class implications of such a system.
06/17/2013
Hell no!
06/18/2013
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While i agree with you it's very hard for women who arn't making a significant amount of money in Irland to take the time off work let alone have the expenses to cover a plane ticket, and abortion, however this is the one of the few options many women in that country have, and undoubtedly one of the only safe ways to go about it.
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novanilla
I actually see a lot of problems for the UK's way of doing abortions. Women would have a harder time getting back to work, especially if they were a poor woman from Northern Ireland who had to go to England for an abortion to begin with, then has
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I actually see a lot of problems for the UK's way of doing abortions. Women would have a harder time getting back to work, especially if they were a poor woman from Northern Ireland who had to go to England for an abortion to begin with, then has to stay overnight, and what does she do with her kids? What if she is a single mom with no family? What if she doesn't want her family to know she is getting an abortion because they will judge or harm her in some way? There are serious domestic violence and class implications of such a system.
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I dont think any women should have to undergo any sort of psych evaluation to get rid of their fetus, and many women who seek an abortion simply can't afford to take more than the day off from work to have the procedure done. I feel the UKs way of doing things in very problematic and more harmful to those seeking an abortion than helpful.
06/18/2013
No, they still serve a very good purpose.
06/18/2013
I agree with what some others have said-- they should be expanding. I currently live in an area without a Planned Parenthood and it is really frustrating. But I have participated in walks supporting Planned Parenthood despite not having one locally.
06/20/2013
hell no.
06/24/2013
I honestly think more people should be planning when they become parents so no we NEED this resource. No one should be left with no choices.
06/25/2013
NO!!!!! I get my regular checkups there for everything from STD testing to my OBGYN visits which are not for birth control.
06/25/2013
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Yeah, but the UK is more practical than the US in many ways (though your blood pudding is kind of terrifying; the only food I have ever seen my mom refuse to taste). Honestly, I think it's brilliant that the UK mandates overnights for abortions. Why we in 'Murica don't is beyond me. *eye roll*
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Ryuson
I actually feel almost the opposite of a lot of people, then. I think that they are very important, but feel like abortions should be handled differently.
In the UK, you have to stay the night in the hospital when you get an abortion. This ... more
In the UK, you have to stay the night in the hospital when you get an abortion. This ... more
I actually feel almost the opposite of a lot of people, then. I think that they are very important, but feel like abortions should be handled differently.
In the UK, you have to stay the night in the hospital when you get an abortion. This keeps internal bleeding and infection down, helps with the mental state of the patient, and also keeps it from being used as an 'oops' form of birth control (which I hate to say it, but some people treat it like that.)
I think that Planned Parenthood is essential, as many people don't have the resources for proper gynecological health. I feel like if PP went down, many people wouldn't be able to afford proper pregnancy testing (the sooner you find out you're pregnant, the healthier you can live to help your baby), and many people certainly wouldn't be able to get STD testing (which is an utter epidemic in the US. The more people who get tested, the less likely they are to spread it.)
They also are invaluable when it comes to birth control options. If you can't afford condoms, you certainly can't afford a baby, and they hand them out like candy. (This also helps the STD scene) They also give other birth control options out for pretty much free, which helps greatly. If you're born into poverty, you're likely to have a child very young, which keeps you from getting a good job and going to school. Offering birth control to people without insurance helps them get their lives together and get to a better place.
In total, while I don't really agree with their 'in and out' abortion stance and really like the way it's handled elsewhere, I feel like they are EXTREMELY important. less
In the UK, you have to stay the night in the hospital when you get an abortion. This keeps internal bleeding and infection down, helps with the mental state of the patient, and also keeps it from being used as an 'oops' form of birth control (which I hate to say it, but some people treat it like that.)
I think that Planned Parenthood is essential, as many people don't have the resources for proper gynecological health. I feel like if PP went down, many people wouldn't be able to afford proper pregnancy testing (the sooner you find out you're pregnant, the healthier you can live to help your baby), and many people certainly wouldn't be able to get STD testing (which is an utter epidemic in the US. The more people who get tested, the less likely they are to spread it.)
They also are invaluable when it comes to birth control options. If you can't afford condoms, you certainly can't afford a baby, and they hand them out like candy. (This also helps the STD scene) They also give other birth control options out for pretty much free, which helps greatly. If you're born into poverty, you're likely to have a child very young, which keeps you from getting a good job and going to school. Offering birth control to people without insurance helps them get their lives together and get to a better place.
In total, while I don't really agree with their 'in and out' abortion stance and really like the way it's handled elsewhere, I feel like they are EXTREMELY important. less
07/17/2013
not at all
07/23/2013
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"Cutting public funding to PP will spark a rise in unwanted pregnancies as well as "back ally abortions," which will often leave the women and fetus dead."
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bratcat
Abortions take up 3% of all planned parenthood activities, and like many abortion clinics, the procedure is only offered at certain times during designated days of the week. However, this is what most people think of when it comes to PP and cutting
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Abortions take up 3% of all planned parenthood activities, and like many abortion clinics, the procedure is only offered at certain times during designated days of the week. However, this is what most people think of when it comes to PP and cutting fundings. I think part of it is because people dont seem to realize it is illegal to use tax money to fund abortions, and PP is actually heavily funded by private companies.
Many people, men, women or otherwise, use their services since they have very affordable prices. Most of their most used services are cancer screenings, STD & STI testing as well as contraceptive methods (such as BC options as well as vasectomies).
Cutting public funding to PP will spark a rise in unwanted pregnancies as well as "back ally abortions," which will often leave the women and fetus dead. Also this means more "poor" people will be left without an affordable resource to important things such as cancer screenings and STD/STI testing, meaning there could likely be a rise is STD/STIs, HIV and AIDs among marginalized groups of people with lower incomes.
PP also helps a lot in communities spreading awareness about safe sex practices and teaching children the value and safety of these practices.
Their staff is non-judgmental and LGBTQ friendly, and for many women it's considered a safe space to get treatment or testing done. Closing or cutting public (as well as private) funding would really mess up so many communities. less
Many people, men, women or otherwise, use their services since they have very affordable prices. Most of their most used services are cancer screenings, STD & STI testing as well as contraceptive methods (such as BC options as well as vasectomies).
Cutting public funding to PP will spark a rise in unwanted pregnancies as well as "back ally abortions," which will often leave the women and fetus dead. Also this means more "poor" people will be left without an affordable resource to important things such as cancer screenings and STD/STI testing, meaning there could likely be a rise is STD/STIs, HIV and AIDs among marginalized groups of people with lower incomes.
PP also helps a lot in communities spreading awareness about safe sex practices and teaching children the value and safety of these practices.
Their staff is non-judgmental and LGBTQ friendly, and for many women it's considered a safe space to get treatment or testing done. Closing or cutting public (as well as private) funding would really mess up so many communities. less
This is exactly what will happen. It is what happened years ago. Even these days, women will wear tiny coat hanger pins to represent how far women have come with this and that women don't have to get back alley abortions from someone who may or may not know what they are doing.
It's sad that the government is totally backsliding. It's heart breaking. I cried when I saw on the new all the clinics they are getting rid of... some states they are only leaving one clinic, two clinics... where they used to have <5,6,7...
Another point someone brought us was that planned parenthood doesn't just offer abortions... Truest story ever told. What is truly sad to me is the girls out there with PCOS(polycystic ovarian syndrome) who NEED birth control to have a regular period and stay health, but can't afford a doctors visit each month, or every 3...
What is really crappy is that in 2013, women have fought to get sooo far, and here we are, being shoved, violently, backwards...
07/24/2013
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Noooooooooooo.
Originally posted by
mailroomorder
With all these debates and cuts to Planned Parenthoods, I was wondering what everyone as thinking. So many people nowadays think that they are only useful for abortions and neglect to understand what their purpose really is in a community.
08/23/2013
No. To shut down PP wouldn't just being denying women abortions, but would deny low income women from prenatal screening and care, contraception, STD testing, and gynecological exams.
08/24/2013