Votes for Upgrade Requests

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Votes for Upgrade Requests

LicentiouslyYours LicentiouslyYours
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Originally posted by Kayla
If you're talking about the current one, she/he had two when they went up for review, but for some reason (not a clue why) the admin must have taken one of them down. I'm not sure why they left he/she up for review.
You are correct, there have been a couple reviews removed recently, for reasons I won't go into here. Unfortunately, while you are correct that two reviews are required before applying to the advanced program, I don't have the ability to pull anyone off the voting list.

You all have made some good comments and points about the current voting system. I will make sure to bring this to the attention of the rest of the review program staff as we are always open to examining ways to improve the program.
01/11/2010
Gary Gary
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Originally posted by LicentiouslyYours
You are correct, there have been a couple reviews removed recently, for reasons I won't go into here. Unfortunately, while you are correct that two reviews are required before applying to the advanced program, I don't have the ability to pull ...
I agree with Laurel, this has been a very good thread!

I don't think that situation has ever come up before where a contributor submitted 2 reviews, requested an upgrade, and then had a review un-published. We will have to look into this.

As for your votes, and what you think feel is worth voting for... of course there is a lot of gray area.

You just have to look at each request individually and go with your gut reaction. I can understand how someone might be intimidated to jump into the forums, and it is possible that some one may not realize that they should respond to comments on their reviews. I would suggest if you notice something the contributor could do better, send them a FRIENDLY and ENCOURAGING direct message offering positive suggestions.
01/11/2010
El-Jaro El-Jaro
there are two people up now that only have 1 review...what's up with that?
01/11/2010
Dragon Dragon
I bite. But not on the forum....

It's very simple. Don't vote for anyone that only has one review up.

As for activity - people are here for a lot of different reasons. The mission statement indicates "sex positive" community. For some people, they came because of the toys, others because they love online interactions, others sexual knowledge.

Everyone has a real life and everyone is different. I feel strongly that reviews should be voted on based on the quality of the writing and if all issues are addressed- either in the review or the comments. Beyond that you are demanding that others meet "your" standards of participation in Eden. Not specifically standards of good writing in reviews.
01/11/2010
RosesThorns RosesThorns
As a newbie here I was glad to find this post. Its good to look at what you are all saying then going back over my reviews. I am getting ready to write my 3rd review and have made a request for upgrade but I am being very paitent and taking constructive criticism to heart. Thanks for this thread.

RosesThorn
01/11/2010
J's Alley J's Alley
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Originally posted by RosesThorns
As a newbie here I was glad to find this post. Its good to look at what you are all saying then going back over my reviews. I am getting ready to write my 3rd review and have made a request for upgrade but I am being very paitent and taking ...
My advise to you would be to see what people say, respond and even fix the review (if it is a HUGE thing you missed). For me, forum activity is minimal, but knowing a reviewer listens and fixes reviews is the biggest deal.
01/11/2010
RosesThorns RosesThorns
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Originally posted by J's Alley
My advise to you would be to see what people say, respond and even fix the review (if it is a HUGE thing you missed). For me, forum activity is minimal, but knowing a reviewer listens and fixes reviews is the biggest deal.
Thats what I try to do... ^_^
I have been doing my best to keep up with things that are brought to my attention as I want to provide the most accurate information/reviews I possibly can. My goal is to be educational and sex positive.
01/17/2010
Alan & Michele Alan & Michele
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Originally posted by Juliettia
My issue is that some of the reviewers who have only posted their two mandatory reviews, get voted to the advanced level, immediately turn around and vote for everyone in the upgrade requests.
This is a pet peeve of mine and exactly why I personally don't think the new voting system is working to the site's advantage. If you watch the voting lists from time to time, you'll see they often come in little groups with all of them voting on each other to drag their friends into the system. I won't even comment on the quality of some of the reviews that have gotten through.
01/18/2010
Pandahb Pandahb
Hmm perhaps this subject doesn't concern me since I am not an advanced reviewer, but I would like to give my two cents. When I wrote my first review and pressed submit, I was sadden that my review didn't even meet the word count. I was so nervous about what I was suppose to be saying in my review and I just didn't really know how to review. I have been spending some time looking at other reviews and the comments on them and seeing how other people write them. This lets me see what should be applied to my own reviews and possibly what not to add.

I am also a really big fan of the forum. You can come in here and just write your random thoughts down and you won't really get critiqued on what you say. I think it gives a great chance to get to know the other members of the community on a bit more of a personal level since reviews tend to me mostly factual.

If (or should I say when ) I become an advanced review, I would look not really at how well they write, since there is much room for improvement, IF they are active. People who take the time to come back to their reviews and see what people wrote and either edit their review and/or comment. I am currently working on redoing my one review since I feel I could do so much better. And like Pleasureman mentioned before, it does take an hour or more sometimes for a good review, but these reviews should be by people who are excited to be doing this and feel strongly about what they are contributing not only to this community but also to buyers.

And with that I will ask you to check me out
02/18/2010
BitterSweet BitterSweet
Ive been wondering about this...I saw someone get voted in a few weeks ago who had not even done there mandatory first 2 reviews! It only showed they had done one single review and I checked their page for activity and there was none, AND on top of that, the one review they had done was...to be kind...not all that good (and yes, that was kind). Im wondering, considering it is mandatory to do the first 2 reviews AT LEAST before requesting the upgrade, how was this person able to be upgraded with only ONE??? Shouldnt there be some sort of block that prevents people from requesting the upgrade unless they had done the first 2???
02/18/2010
Viktor Vysheslav Malkin Viktor Vysheslav Malkin
For me, my only requirements are, you have to care about your writing (and obviously you do ) and answer to the best you can any questions asked, and lastly show that you want to improve. For me, I am always wanting to improve myself, I have a few reviews that have been voted "extremely useful" but I know there is room for me personally to improve.

Anyway Pandahb, I wish you luck with your review, and if you need any help feel fre to message me

I was given a lot of help and tips when I came here almost 3 months ago, and I would be glad to help anyone who needs it
02/18/2010
Jul!a Jul!a
I was surprised at how quickly I got voted in when I first requested my upgrade.

But I'm very surprised at the kind of things that seem to squeak through. Every couple of days I go back and read the reviews that are up for people requesting upgrades and I won't lie, if I'm less than halfway through and you haven't done much more than talk about how awesome sex was for you because of this item, I don't read the rest of that review or your other reviews either. I know this sounds picky and I haven't been here that long, but I feel that writing these reviews should be something that you really put some effort into. Telling me things I can easily read on the product page and how it worked for you the one night doesn't help anybody.

But there are still some reviewers looking for an upgrade that show some great potential and I have voted a few in that have been doing well so far.
02/18/2010
Kayla Kayla
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Originally posted by BitterSweet
Ive been wondering about this...I saw someone get voted in a few weeks ago who had not even done there mandatory first 2 reviews! It only showed they had done one single review and I checked their page for activity and there was none, AND on top of ...
I believe the person submitted for advanced then had a review removed for some reason. No idea why.

I agree that room for improvement is good, but I'd love to see a person *submit* those reviews that have improvement before we vote them in. I mean, within the last couple weeks, I've seen people that signed up for EF, wrote two reviews, submitted for Advanced then hadn't come back yet. And they got voted in. With reviews that were only "somewhat useful" or "worth reading but not useful".

I totally don't mean to sound like a killjoy, but I almost feel like it was more of an honor to be in the program then it is now. Maybe I'm missing something on the backend, but it appears like only one out of every five doesn't get accepted.

When I vote, I look to see if they have reviews that have been voted at least useful. Or if I think it's useful. If I'm on the fence then, I look to see if they're active - if not, no. If they have been, or at least active enough to have done something besides post two reviews that they'd never seen again, I usually will say yes.

I feel like the one thing that EF has is its community that makes us stand out as one of those places that most toy reviewers like to call "home". Other toy sites do reviews, but only this one allows us to vote people in, use the forum, and get to know each other. I'd love to see people keep that great community standard with everything when they vote.

Maybe I'm just whining, though. It's quite possible. After all, I did just get "My First Period" kit. Yeah. Freebie addiction. x.x
02/18/2010
Pandahb Pandahb
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Originally posted by Viktor Vysheslav Malkin
For me, my only requirements are, you have to care about your writing (and obviously you do ) and answer to the best you can any questions asked, and lastly show that you want to improve. For me, I am always wanting to improve myself, I have a few ...
Thank you Vicktor! It is nice having some connections since, though I hate admitting this, I'm a total noob.

I am also a little obsessed with making mine better, wondering what extra detail will make a person think "this review was extremely helpful"
02/18/2010
Sammi Sammi
Quote:
Originally posted by BitterSweet
Ive been wondering about this...I saw someone get voted in a few weeks ago who had not even done there mandatory first 2 reviews! It only showed they had done one single review and I checked their page for activity and there was none, AND on top of ...
Two reviews had been done, but one was removed.

They have been contacted and informed that they need to complete the requirements before they are eligible for advanced review privileges.
02/18/2010
JF JF
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Originally posted by DONOTSHOPHERETHEOWNERISPSYCHO
I did that before too. There was someone that I thought had absolutely awful reviews and they had 4 votes. I clicked to see who the hell voted for him and accidentally gave them the last vote for their upgrade.
I've made that same whoopsies before a couple times, trying to see who voted for that person. I hate it when that happens. I second the "Oh shit that was an accident" idea. Lol
02/19/2010
Airen Wolf Airen Wolf
I have noticed lately that people just voted to the advanced reviewers lists are voting 100% to reviews that, as has been noted, are rated not worth reading! It's like they are either spitting at us for having made them wait or they don't understand the standards we would like to see...it should mean something to be an advanced reviewer. I know that sounds a bit emotional but it is how it feels to me, especially after seeing the person vote the same review as not worth reading. I'm not saying it should be a priviledged few or we should be lauded but there should be some sort of standard!
02/19/2010
Jul!a Jul!a
Quote:
Originally posted by Airen Wolf
I have noticed lately that people just voted to the advanced reviewers lists are voting 100% to reviews that, as has been noted, are rated not worth reading! It's like they are either spitting at us for having made them wait or they don't ...
I agree wholeheartedly.

What I have a problem with as well (and sorry if this is the wrong place, I just didn't know where else to complain about it) is where I see one item with two reviews that are both rated 'extremely useful' but one clearly has a lot more time and effort put into it and a lot more info. I just don't get how the other one gets to keep being 'extremely' useful if the other one is that much better. Am I just rambling now?

And if it helps any, it definitely means something to me to be an advanced reviewer, even tho I haven't been here very long. But something else to keep in mind I guess is that even the highest ranking reviewers started out at the bottom of the totem pole.
02/19/2010
Miss Moxie Miss Moxie
I signed up for EF back in the summer- My first sex toy, seems like just yesterday! =) I put up four reviews, and tried submitting to advanced, but I was told there was an error- and I'd have to resubmit my form. Then when i tried again, it was this new version, where you write 150 characters about what makes you a good reviewer? I myself think that's kind of hard... I wanted to talk about how all my reviews were voted useful, and how I have a friendly personality and answer/respond to all questions, I've got a varied vocabulary and I take the time with grammar, blah blah- All of which I think are important to being a reviewer, not just here but anywhere.

So I gave up and didn't try again until last month. I had my wisdom teeth pulled right after that and have been knocked out for about a month. I just recently bought some new things and finally requested my first item for review that I didn't even take it for free. I went for 30%. I feel like I'm new, it's my first advanced project- I should be a little modest. I started looking at more reviews and voting/commenting, but I still have not touched the 'vote me to advanced' thing yet... I dunno, If I saw a really promising person I would, but I feel like I might be too 'fresh' of a face to just start adding people. Maybe in a few months I'll approach it again.

I started looking at the forums too, I'm kind of a shy person. As you can see I'm posting now, instead of just lurking... I dunno, I wasn't here for the old system, but I think that yes there should definitely be a few tweaks to this system. I dunno how to go about it, but... It does seem like there are a few people slipping through the cracks.
02/20/2010
Splendwhore Splendwhore
As a newcomer with dreams of becoming an Advanced Reviewer, I have to say that this thread has been fairly enlightening. I had been curious as to what you look for in potential peers, and what determines if a person is worthy or not of your vote. I believe, for the most part, everything I've read has been reasonable. You should: Be literate, be active in the community, show some minute amount of effort to accurately describe the product and it's effectiveness in your reviews, & have the courtesy to respond to comments and edit or revise your reviews as necessary. Generally speaking, these are the main points that I gleaned. All of which I am fairly confident I can follow through with. My main area of concern is this.. I am relatively new to the use of toys. I don't have much experience or technical know-how, and I was really drawn to this site to explore new possibilities I hadn't before considered. I only hope that my lack of "experience" doesn't lessen my chances of advanced status.
02/28/2010
Jul!a Jul!a
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Originally posted by Splendwhore
As a newcomer with dreams of becoming an Advanced Reviewer, I have to say that this thread has been fairly enlightening. I had been curious as to what you look for in potential peers, and what determines if a person is worthy or not of your vote. I ...
As long as you're making a genuine effort with what you're doing and you make use of constructive criticism and tips then I think you'll be just fine. And remember, this is a very friendly community here, so if you have any questions you shouldn't feel weird about asking them

I look forward to seeing you around more
03/01/2010
PDXlady PDXlady
I'm new around here and honestly I don't understand why someone who is interested in sex toys enough to review them wouldn't be interested in a whole community related to exactly that!
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