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Show me the facts that this company deliberately named themselves after the WWII Nazi sexual slave trade, and then I won't question your trying to affect the business of that company by publicly making accusations about the messages they are
Show me the facts that this company deliberately named themselves after the WWII Nazi sexual slave trade, and then I won't question your trying to affect the business of that company by publicly making accusations about the messages they are promoting!
You have no facts here! This is guilty until proven innocent!
I'm not asking you to stop questioning me. I welcome questions and challenges. I'm not sure why you think that I am trying to silence you; I am engaging each of your responses which I can only imagine would demonstrate that I am interested in discussion. I was asking why you were confused as to how rape and sexual slavery were absolutely central to this conversation, a question you chose not to respond to which is okay.
I will respond to your assumption of my motivations and accusation that I am trying to affect JoyDivision's business, however. I don't personally care if anyone else
buys from them, but in light of Madeira's post I simply stated that I am choosing not to buy anything from them. If that influences how someone else shops, that's their business and not mine. You'll notice that I never encouraged or asked anyone else not to buy from them, I simply stated that I do not wish to.
Cynthia, your point is excellent and well taken. The reason those keywords will not yield scholarly results is because a) Google is not a scholarly search engine, I would recommend Muse or Jstor as good alternatives and b) Joy Division is an English translation, which was popularized by the film and then apparently by the band. The band and film will yield far before "Freudenabteilung" will, which is the German term. However, the company chose JoyDivision for their name, written in English. This leads me to believe they are referencing the band at the very least, and as Gunsmoke said, a little research goes a long way before naming your company after a band that is notorious for fetishizing Nazi imagery.