Naked Reader Book Club Discussion: Take Me There -Trans and Genderqueer Erotica, Edited by Tristan Taormino (January 24, 8-10 PM EST)

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Naked Reader Book Club Discussion: Take Me There -Trans and Genderqueer Erotica, Edited by Tristan Taormino (January 24, 8-10 PM EST)

NoOneNosMe NoOneNosMe
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Originally posted by melovecoffee
exactly, I feel like plenty of niches in erotica have their beginnings and are almost hidden from public view. It's a real tragedy, I found more love and feeling in this book than any of the Twilight books combined.

I love the blurring of ...
Lol. I found more emotion in the excerpt than the Twilight books.

Gender in itself can be blurred. I play with my gender all the time. There are some days where I will feel very dysphoric and feel the need to "switch" genders but most of the time I can flip flop when I want
01/24/2012
melovecoffee melovecoffee
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Originally posted by bzzingbee
I think the best policy is just to ask, if the setting is appropriate to do so. When I was reviewing Live Sex Show I emailed Courtney Trouble to ask her about the performers' preference and found out that people who identify as genderqueer ...
Someone who comes into my cafe is transgender and I try to be sensitive to how I refer to them (It's a huge change and I don't want to belittle that or mock it by using the wrong adjective). Some people aren't like that though, their view is so black and white that if they can't safely put it in a category then they don't want anything to do with it.

That's what I really liked about this book, it remained sensitive (not sure if that's the right word to use but I will go with it anyway) and made itself very identifiable to it's reader, no matter who they are or what they identify with.
01/24/2012
Brendada Brendada
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Originally posted by specialKandL
oo I've read a majority of the stories! i tended to read the ones with interesting titles
A great hint for any book editors here!
01/24/2012
melovecoffee melovecoffee
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Originally posted by Antipova
"They" feels easy and natural to me, even if it goes against what my third grade grammar teacher would have said.
It's also how I refer to babies if they're wearing ambiguous clothing, don't want to offend the parents.
01/24/2012
tim1724 tim1724
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Originally posted by bzzingbee
I think the best policy is just to ask, if the setting is appropriate to do so. When I was reviewing Live Sex Show I emailed Courtney Trouble to ask her about the performers' preference and found out that people who identify as genderqueer ...
I find "they" the hardest pronoun for me to use. I know Jiz Lee uses it, for example, but it makes me cringe a bit inside whenever I have to use it. The made-up ones such as the spivak pronouns offend my sense of grammar much less.
01/24/2012
NoOneNosMe NoOneNosMe
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Originally posted by wrmbreze
Honestly It makes me think of Rupaul. If he is dressed as a woman I say she and if dressed as a man I say he.
Oh yeah I believe RuPaul is actually bigender. I do the same. When I am in male mode I prefer the male pronouns
01/24/2012
Brendada Brendada
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Originally posted by wrmbreze
If they do, they'll probably be hidden until after the election.
a shame!
01/24/2012
wrmbreze wrmbreze
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Originally posted by melovecoffee
It's also how I refer to babies if they're wearing ambiguous clothing, don't want to offend the parents.
Too bad most people don't think that way. My babygirl was called he even when wearing pink ribbons and ruffles.
01/24/2012
bzzingbee bzzingbee
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Originally posted by Antipova
"They" feels easy and natural to me, even if it goes against what my third grade grammar teacher would have said.
True, it just sounds off in some sentences like 'Nina teased they's clit'. (or should that be their?)
01/24/2012
wrmbreze wrmbreze
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Originally posted by Brendada
a shame!
It is but thats what happens, or they try to distance themselves from the relative.
01/24/2012
Willow Wand Willow Wand
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Originally posted by Brendada
I think it is safe to say no one at Eden or Cleis ever thinks that. Seriously. Never.
LOL yea, but if I was emailing the wrong person
01/24/2012
Top Kat Top Kat
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Originally posted by Antipova
Yeah, that's one thing that must be really tricky for the people in that situation.

On the one hand---I totally understand why it's important to be able to choose pronouns that fit who you are!

On the other hand, I'm an ...
People are sometimes surprised that when I refer to mankind I am referring to the human race, so I get it. I found that I was open to the definitions and pace that each story set up, each offered its own surprises and delights.
01/24/2012
melovecoffee melovecoffee
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Originally posted by NoOneNosMe
Lol. I found more emotion in the excerpt than the Twilight books.

Gender in itself can be blurred. I play with my gender all the time. There are some days where I will feel very dysphoric and feel the need to "switch" genders but ...
and that's a wonderful thing, I wish people could see beyond lines. There's a freedom in there not to be barred by one gender or another. Doing what makes you happy and what makes you feel like you.
01/24/2012
Antipova Antipova
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Originally posted by Sacchi
Thanks, Kat, for providing the perfect time for this. Giselle Renarde (who has a story or two in my upcoming anthology Girl Fever) told me this about writing "The Therapist and the Whore":


"The inclusion of my story ...
"relatable, well-rounded characters, not glorified fetish objects."

THIS IS EXACTLY WHY TAKE ME THERE WAS PERFECT.

(Also, I love the Therapist and the Whore to pieces. That's one of my favorite fantasy dynamics, so it was so easy to get wrapped up on.)
01/24/2012
Sacchi Sacchi
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Originally posted by Brendada
WHen is next debate? We could hand deliver!
I dunno, Brenda. I wouldn't want to provide a hand job of any description for him.
01/24/2012
Brendada Brendada
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Originally posted by melovecoffee
EGAD, really? Just on principle I don't think we should send one free thing to that charlatan's office. Just sayin.....
worth the postage just to picture the freak out upon opening the envelope, right?
01/24/2012
wrmbreze wrmbreze
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Originally posted by Brendada
worth the postage just to picture the freak out upon opening the envelope, right?
I think they would hustle you out the back door and take you in for questioning if you hand delivered it.
01/24/2012
bzzingbee bzzingbee
I agree, the Therapist and the Whore was quite good!
01/24/2012
kendra30752 kendra30752
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Originally posted by Antipova
Hey Kendra!
Hello love! How are ya? I've been reading through everything here and I'm definitely going to have to read this one!
01/24/2012
melovecoffee melovecoffee
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Originally posted by wrmbreze
Too bad most people don't think that way. My babygirl was called he even when wearing pink ribbons and ruffles.
That's only when i'm on my A game. When I was a journalism major, I would often call my advisor's baby "it" mostly out of fear. Since my niece was born, I've learned to become more sensitive to the parents feelings, I suppose. Some don't care but there are plenty that will jump down your throat if you get it wrong, lol.
01/24/2012
NoOneNosMe NoOneNosMe
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Originally posted by melovecoffee
and that's a wonderful thing, I wish people could see beyond lines. There's a freedom in there not to be barred by one gender or another. Doing what makes you happy and what makes you feel like you.
Yes I totally agree. I do what I do because it makes me happy and that is just how my mind works. A lot of people do not experiment with their gender because society has deemed it "bad". Everyone believes that it is wrong. But in reality it is a very natural thing
01/24/2012
Antipova Antipova
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Originally posted by bzzingbee
Its the story about the MtF who goes on the work holiday cruise with a guy from work and then later they get together and she has her first real orgasm with anal penetration.
Aw yeah! I had forgotten about that one but it was very excellent... she spent a lot of thought on how to tell her coworker about her anatomy? I thought that was a really good choice to have early in the book, it kind of warmed me up to how difficult coming fully out might be.
01/24/2012
NuMe NuMe
Also since we have so many new members to the club I just wanted to mention that [Naked Reader Book Club|link has it's own blog. Just click on that link and you're there. We update the books, meetings, reviews. And now we have a new feature called excerpts, thanks to the wonderful people at Cleis Press!!! Check it out later when you have some time.
01/24/2012
Sacchi Sacchi
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Originally posted by Antipova
"relatable, well-rounded characters, not glorified fetish objects."

THIS IS EXACTLY WHY TAKE ME THERE WAS PERFECT.

(Also, I love the Therapist and the Whore to pieces. That's one of my favorite fantasy dynamics, so it was ...
I'll have to pass that along to Anna, who's a good friend of mine.
01/24/2012
Brendada Brendada
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Originally posted by melovecoffee
Do you think this will open doors to more transgender/genderquee r erotica? It seems too far and few in between but easily a growing market of erotica
Well, we have to at least "earn out" but I don't want to put the entire Naked Reader Book Club to sleep with that boring explanation. In short, if supporting by sales numbers, YES!
01/24/2012
bzzingbee bzzingbee
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Originally posted by melovecoffee
That's only when i'm on my A game. When I was a journalism major, I would often call my advisor's baby "it" mostly out of fear. Since my niece was born, I've learned to become more sensitive to the parents feelings, I ...
I always call babies I don't know 'it' and my friends always make fun of me. I didn't grow up around babies...so I'm just uncomfortable anyways, lol
01/24/2012
kendra30752 kendra30752
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Originally posted by NuMe
Welcome! If this is your first official time here, please email me at Liz @ Edenfantasys. com with your real name/ef name and address and we'll send you out a copy of tonight's book.
Oh thank you! That would be wonderful!
01/24/2012
melovecoffee melovecoffee
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Originally posted by NoOneNosMe
Yes I totally agree. I do what I do because it makes me happy and that is just how my mind works. A lot of people do not experiment with their gender because society has deemed it "bad". Everyone believes that it is wrong. But in reality it ...
So, out of curiosity, how did you connect with this book? Did you find any identifiable stories or characters with it?
01/24/2012
specialKandL specialKandL
I also liked Dixie Bell! The adventures of huck finn was one of my favorite books in high school and i think kate bornstein did a great job of continuing the huck finn story!
01/24/2012
bzzingbee bzzingbee
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Originally posted by Antipova
Aw yeah! I had forgotten about that one but it was very excellent... she spent a lot of thought on how to tell her coworker about her anatomy? I thought that was a really good choice to have early in the book, it kind of warmed me up to how difficult ...
Exactly! It was the first story to say 'hey, sex isn't just about sex all the time'. which is true for everyone, not just the transgender community.
01/24/2012
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