Doesn't Count My ASS!

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Doesn't Count My ASS!

BunnyBoy BunnyBoy
<.< Okay, so I sometimes hear this bullshit statement that if you've taken it up the ass and not in the vagina the girl is still a virgin. I personally think this bullshit. Penetration is Penetration. Anal sex is also a form of sex. That's like saying since I'm gay I'll always be a virgin. -.-. Anyone else think the anal thing is just in excuse of sorts?
03/12/2011
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Sweet-Justice Sweet-Justice
Quote:
Originally posted by BunnyBoy
<.< Okay, so I sometimes hear this bullshit statement that if you've taken it up the ass and not in the vagina the girl is still a virgin. I personally think this bullshit. Penetration is Penetration. Anal sex is also a form of sex. ...
DEFINITELY! Uughh, just a reason for women to deny the fact that some of them are actual whores <_< tch.
Sex is sex is sex!
03/12/2011
StrawberryEve StrawberryEve
I agree. If it's sexual intercourse in any way, I think it counts.
03/12/2011
MeliPixie MeliPixie
Absolutely! There's a certain level of virginity, in that her hymen is still (probably) intact. But intercourse, whether it's anal, oral, or vaginal, is still intercourse, and any one of them to different degrees removes her virginity. I would daresay anal removes MORE than vaginal! It's much more intimate to allow someone to put their cock or dildo in your ass, it's more sensitive and tender and requires a higher level of trust than PIV or oral sex require. Those girls who say it doesn't count, at the risk of sounding judgmental, are whores. Penetration is penetration, sex is sex.
03/12/2011
BunnyBoy BunnyBoy
So glad to see people agreeing. The first time a girl told me this I wanted to slap that hoebag. It's lie, "...WHAAAAAAAAAAT~"
03/12/2011
Miss Jenn Miss Jenn
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Originally posted by Sweet-Justice
DEFINITELY! Uughh, just a reason for women to deny the fact that some of them are actual whores <_< tch.
Sex is sex is sex!
HAHAHA! @maryjane - i love that! I agree, penetration is penetration - no matter what hole - or how many times...

If you really feel the need to say that your vagina is a virgin - simply state that. Depending on the guy - the fact that your vagina hasnt been penetrated may be a turn on - or a turn off... simply put - tell the truth. LOL

Thats my theory.
03/12/2011
UnknownGirl UnknownGirl
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Originally posted by BunnyBoy
<.< Okay, so I sometimes hear this bullshit statement that if you've taken it up the ass and not in the vagina the girl is still a virgin. I personally think this bullshit. Penetration is Penetration. Anal sex is also a form of sex. ...
"You will find that many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view."
03/12/2011
Istanbull Istanbull
I'm still suprised that in this day and age women who like sex are still being called "Whores". I thought society had matured past that label.
03/12/2011
DeliciousSurprise DeliciousSurprise
I think the name calling ("some of them are whores," "i wanted to slap that hoebag.") is really unnecessary and actually completely offensive.


Personally, I DON'T consider anal intercourse to be the kind of sex that means you've lost your virginity--and I REALLY resent the implication that I'm a "hoebag" because I believe that.
03/12/2011
danellejohns danellejohns
I believe that "to each their own" if that is what someone wants to believe there is no harm in that and vice-versa. I would not go so far as to belittle someone or resort to name-calling because you have a different idea. I would think we are a bit more civilized than that.

I am undecided in the whole issue because I can see it from both points of view. I cannot/will not judge someone for their beliefs.
03/12/2011
That Guy That Guy
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Originally posted by BunnyBoy
<.< Okay, so I sometimes hear this bullshit statement that if you've taken it up the ass and not in the vagina the girl is still a virgin. I personally think this bullshit. Penetration is Penetration. Anal sex is also a form of sex. ...
Look, we've got a good thing going here. Don't. Blow. It.
03/12/2011
That Guy That Guy
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Originally posted by DeliciousSurprise
I think the name calling ("some of them are whores," "i wanted to slap that hoebag.") is really unnecessary and actually completely offensive.


Personally, I DON'T consider anal intercourse to be the kind of sex ...
Also, I agree that it is offensive.
03/12/2011
RonLee RonLee
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Originally posted by danellejohns
I believe that "to each their own" if that is what someone wants to believe there is no harm in that and vice-versa. I would not go so far as to belittle someone or resort to name-calling because you have a different idea. I would think we ...
DanelleJohns,
I agree with your statements.
Way too many of us have the "I've got to be right, no matter the cost" attitude.
Life is too damn short to argue with someone over such trivialities.
Some years ago, out in California a fellow made a statement that many ridiculed. But Rodney King may have been the wisest of us when he asked "Can we get along?"
03/12/2011
ID42 ID42
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Originally posted by That Guy
Also, I agree that it is offensive.
I also have to agree that this is offensive.

As far as the virgin conversation is concerned, in my OPINION, penetration is penetration. But virginity is in the eye of the beholder. If one thinks that they are a virgin until THEY have vaginal intercourse, it's their decision. They aren't putting their beliefs off on you. If they are, and tell you you are also a virgin and you don't see it that way, there is nothing in this world that says you have to agree. And may even state so. But no one deserves to be called names for how they feel on the inside.
03/12/2011
DPierced DPierced
seriously? the dictionary definition of "virgin" is defined as never having been penetrated by a man. guess what; girl; your ass done been penetrated. hard. actually met a girl like that in college who would only have anal. I gladly did it. she didnt even want lube. dirty girl.
03/13/2011
DeliciousSurprise DeliciousSurprise
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Originally posted by DPierced
seriously? the dictionary definition of "virgin" is defined as never having been penetrated by a man. guess what; girl; your ass done been penetrated. hard. actually met a girl like that in college who would only have anal. I gladly did it. ...
My mind is actually blown by the judgmental responses in this thread.


In response to the "dictionary definition of virgin" I'm offering up this:


vir·gin noun \'v?r-j?n\
Definition of VIRGIN


1a : an unmarried woman devoted to religion
b capitalized : virgo

2a : an absolutely chaste young woman
b : an unmarried girl or woman

3 capitalized : virgin mary

4a : a person who has not had sexual intercourse
b : a person who is inexperienced in a usually specified sphere of activity

5: a female animal that has never copulated


Okay, so it's an absolutely chaste young woman (but what about men?!) or someone who's not had sexual intercourse.
So, let's define 'chaste' and 'sexual intercourse, too.

Chaste is defined as, "Innocent of unlawful sexual intercourse," "celibate" or "pure in thought or act."

Now, in many states, sodomy (oral AND anal sex both count for this one) is illegal. So, a virgin is someone who's never had anal sex. Moving on...


Sexual intercourse: heterosexual intercourse involving penetration of the vagina by the penis: coitus.

So, a 'virgin' is someone who is 'innocent of unlawful sexual intercourse' who has not had 'heterosexual intercourse involving PIV sex.'



And the implication that someone not wanting lube (even for anal) is 'dirty' is really insulting to people who, that's right, DON'T WANT LUBE.
03/13/2011
BunnyBoy BunnyBoy
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Originally posted by DeliciousSurprise
I think the name calling ("some of them are whores," "i wanted to slap that hoebag.") is really unnecessary and actually completely offensive.


Personally, I DON'T consider anal intercourse to be the kind of sex ...
O.o sorry you found that term offensive. I didn't mean to offend. The term 'hoebag' has always been a more friendly teasing word. Anyway, I don't understand this. It goes in therefore doesn't that mean you've clearly been penetrated? Does this mean since I'm gay I'll always be a 'virgin'? Only curious.
03/13/2011
BunnyBoy BunnyBoy
...wow, didn't think so many people would get offended by such a small thing ^^;

Just an opinion. Male intercourse can be anal too...it is going in. I mean, you can not be a virgin anymore, and still be a vaginal virgin. Just like if you haven't done it anally your an anal virgin. If you've done one or the other don't pretend to be completely innocent or pretend it doesn't count. That's all I'm saying. But to each their own.
03/13/2011
DeliciousSurprise DeliciousSurprise
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Originally posted by BunnyBoy
O.o sorry you found that term offensive. I didn't mean to offend. The term 'hoebag' has always been a more friendly teasing word. Anyway, I don't understand this. It goes in therefore doesn't that mean you've clearly been ...
I think that virginity is self-defined, nobody can decide when you have or have not lost your virginity.


If we're just using the definition of penetration as our litmus paper, wouldn't anyone who's been penetrated by a sex toy has lost their virginity? Or a tampon, or a finger, for that matter?
03/13/2011
LavenderSkies LavenderSkies
I agree with you!
03/14/2011
ZenaidaMacroura ZenaidaMacroura
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Originally posted by DeliciousSurprise
I think that virginity is self-defined, nobody can decide when you have or have not lost your virginity.


If we're just using the definition of penetration as our litmus paper, wouldn't anyone who's been penetrated by a sex toy ...
I agree with everything you've said here. I'm kind of surprised by all the "whore" talk. To me, virginity is subjective. I gave oral sex before I had vaginal sex, and at that point I still considered myself a virgin. I'm not sure what I would have thought if I'd had anal sex before vaginal, but if I wanted to consider myself a virgin still, so be it. It's not really anyone else's business.

And yeah, I used tampons before I had sex. Didn't make me not a virgin. Plenty of people even think that the loss of the hymen means loss of virginity, but hymens can be lost in all sorts of ways- sports injuries, tampons, bike accidents, whatever. It's up to that person what they think of themselves.
03/14/2011
DeliciousSurprise DeliciousSurprise
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Originally posted by ZenaidaMacroura
I agree with everything you've said here. I'm kind of surprised by all the "whore" talk. To me, virginity is subjective. I gave oral sex before I had vaginal sex, and at that point I still considered myself a virgin. I'm not ...
This whole emphasis United States culture places on the idea of virginity is so foreign to me. I'm lesbian, I've never so much as kissed a man, but I've done things with women that would blow the minds of a great many straight-sex-having men.

Does that mean I'm still a virgin? I've been fucked, with fingers, with cocks, with tongues, but because that cock wasn't attached to a man, I'm a virgin? What does it matter, anyway? What difference does it make?

But the whole focus on virginity is a totally different subject entirely and I won't derail this thread further...
03/14/2011
BunnyBoy BunnyBoy
face/screen. It's only an opinion. I don't believe someone should say an intimate moment shouldn't matter because it's not 'normal' sex.
03/15/2011
pinkzombie pinkzombie
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Originally posted by BunnyBoy
<.< Okay, so I sometimes hear this bullshit statement that if you've taken it up the ass and not in the vagina the girl is still a virgin. I personally think this bullshit. Penetration is Penetration. Anal sex is also a form of sex. ...
What a crock!
03/15/2011
That Guy That Guy
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Originally posted by That Guy
Look, we've got a good thing going here. Don't. Blow. It.
Look man, I'm going to repeat it because... well because I think it's funny.

There's a lot of dudes out there who would not get to try anal if their girlfriends didn't have some screwy virgin complex. I can't cure them of this complex, and neither can their boyfriends. So their boyfriends get buttsex and the girl gets to go on her merry, albeit arbitrary, way. Everybody wins.

DON'T BLOW IT FOR THEM.
03/15/2011
gone77 gone77
OK, guys, looks like I need to step in here.

This has gotten out of hand. I can understand the difference in opinions when it comes to the definition of virginity. You have your textbook or dictionary definition, and then you have the various gray areas. As a virgin myself, I find virginity to be subjective. But beyond that, deviating into calling people whores or hoebags really does not fly here, even anecdotally. Please watch your choice of words when further posting on the thread, okay? Much appreciated.
03/15/2011
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