Choice or genetic predisposition.

Elnoa Elnoa
I understand that many people are genetically inclined to be gay. I also understand that some people choose to be either temporarily or, in some cases, permanently gay. However, some like to use "homosexuality is a choice" as a battle cry, and others say "No! homosexuality is not a choice, it's a born inclination!"

My question is, who cares if someone "chooses" to live a homosexual lifestyle? Does choosing, rather than being genetically inclined, to be homosexual make you a poser or something?
07/08/2011
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Linga Linga
Nope, I don't think so. I think I could choose to NOT be bisexual if I really wanted too since I'm not really attracted to women but I would and have fooled around with them. I don't think I'm a poser for that and so i don't think anyone who decides they want to be gay is a poser either unless they are doing it for less than legitimate reasons.
07/08/2011
P'Gell P'Gell
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Originally posted by Elnoa
I understand that many people are genetically inclined to be gay. I also understand that some people choose to be either temporarily or, in some cases, permanently gay. However, some like to use "homosexuality is a choice" as a battle cry, ... More
A poser? If you are attracted to members of the same sex, you are either gay or lesbian. If you are attracted to members of either standard gender, you are bisexual. This isn't something you can (or should) force yourself to do if you don't feel aroused by people of the same sex.

When I was younger, saying you "identified as queer" was all the rage....for straight girls. Most of these girls were not lesbian nor bisexual. I know more than a few who pushed the "identification" so others would.....I don't know, be impressed with them? (These girls were NOT "experimenting" nor where they actually bisexual, this was done for attention, as their later behavior and even admission attested to.)

No, it isn't fair to real Gay and Lesbian people, because when in a relationship with someone who isn't really gay or lesbian, their time is being wasted and often their hearts are broken, when someone is just playing them to get attention. You can't choose to be gay, you can't choose be straight.

I don't think you can choose to be attracted to a gender, if you simply aren't. Kinsey has a scale of sexual orientation, based on numbers from 0, meaning completely heterosexual to 6, meaning completely homosexual. Most people fall somewhere in between 1 and 5.

If you are attracted to someone sexually, there is no "posing." Only those who claim "identification" to an orientation they KNOW they don't have can be accused of that.

Most people, when given a chance, and if they are open and honest with themselves, can be pretty astute and recognizing their orientation.

That being said, some people do experiment and find what they thought was an inclination was simply curiosity, (usually when young) that in itself is not dishonest. I think only when people pretend to be attracted to those they are not are being dishonest.

But, it's been proven that true homosexuality is biological, not a choice.
07/08/2011
Vaccinium Vaccinium
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Originally posted by P'Gell
A poser? If you are attracted to members of the same sex, you are either gay or lesbian. If you are attracted to members of either standard gender, you are bisexual. This isn't something you can (or should) force yourself to do if you don't ... More
There seems to be a genetic component for a lot of gays and lesbians (and presumably bisexuals). In other words, you are what you are - from conception. That has a lot of really good scientific evidence to back it up.

But apparently you can be "made" into a gay or lesbian as well (again, probably bisexual as well). As I understand it, children who go through long, tormented periods of mental and sexual abuse by same-sex assailants can end up living a gay or lesbian lifestyle as adults even without the genetic component being present. Whether "gay" or "lesbian" truly applies to these unfortunate souls (unfortunate from the abuse standpoint) is debatable, but it appears to be a real phenomenon.

Some have also hypothesized that there could be environmental influences on a developing embryo or fetus that could lead to homosexuality (or bisexuality?). Certain hormones (or industrial chemicals that act as hormone mimics), it is hypothesized, influence the developing brain and could shape the sexual orientation. To my knowledge, the evidence to back up this hypothesis isn't that strong as of yet (as is the case with a lot of hormone or endocrine disruptor hypotheses).
07/08/2011
Sex'и'Violence Sex'и'Violence
Humans are sexual beings and as they mature and discover their sexual preferences/predisposi tions are defined by a combination of nature and nurture. I don't believe a person is "born gay" but due to their brain chemistry they may be more inclined to choose that life style. Truthfully I think (as with most any kind of behavioural developments) it is a combination of psychology and sociology that take effect and make us who we are. This situation is no different.

I believe the whole "born gay" vs "lifestyle choice" arguments came to be as a result of people feeling discriminated against when governments and societies started looking in to why or what would cause a persons sexual orientation to be anything other than what, for procreation purposes would be considered normal. When chemists started looking for hormonal variants activists screamed about discrimination and life style choices. When behavioural scientists and religious groups started looking at what would cause a person to "choose" to be homosexual, activists again screamed discrimination, but this time followed it up with "They're born that way"

Take it for what you will, but I try not to put too much thought into it at this point. It's obvious that the majority of those involved in the "gay rights movement" (which has made literally billions of dollars at this point) would rather remain oblivious to any kind of underlying reasoning for their disposition.
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PS- because I'm almost certain someone is going to call, or at least think this post is discriminatory, I'm not saying or arguing that people who are homosexual are lesser or that they aren't right to seek equal rights & recognition under the law. My thoughts on the matter above are simply my own observations of the situation at hand. It would appear (at least to me) that some people- if not most people are just happier not knowing.
07/08/2011
Elnoa Elnoa
Three different viewpoints! Thank you for these posts. I personally don't identify as gay, or bisexual, as I've had nothing but heterosexual relationships. But I find that the more "queer" people I have been able to hang out with (after I left the south, thank the stars), the more and more I find myself attracted to females as well. Am I genetically predisposed to it? Is it merely conditioning? Who knows? I may not act on my desires, but I won't say I'm "faking them to fit in", as I've only told my best girlfriend and my husband (who has nothing invested in turning me into a lesbian).
And that's why I made this post, because I hear so much argument from both sides as to what makes one, really and truely, gay, versus people who are just "pretending".
07/08/2011
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