Conversion

wrecklesswords wrecklesswords
I have been all over the Internet throughout my years. LiveJournal, MeetMe, Facebook, Myspace, Xanga, etc. Something that I noticed rather prominently on MeetMe is that the gay men primarily seem to assume that all bisexual men are gay and that they must be kept "on the gay side," so to speak.

A bisexual male friend on my friend's list has quite a few gay male friends on his list. He mentioned something about work and someone taking over some of his work load. A friend of his commented on this status that they were sure they had a female co-worker step in to keep him on the "straight and narrow." This person definitely meant that why would his work pair him with another male when he is bisexual, because that would obviously be a travesty.

What gets me, though, is why is it a bad thing for a bisexual male to be paired with a female co-worker? And on the same hand, why would it matter either way if it was a male or female? You aren't at work to fuck your co-workers (okay... not in some situations..), so why make that kind of a comment?

Upon other searching across other sites, I notice that it seems that a lot of gay men seem to be really vigilant about "converting" confused males to being gay. Why? That just seems.. well... wrong.

Personal experience: When I was on the fence about if I liked girls or not, I had a lesbian friend who was very, very pushy in getting me to hit on, kiss, and fuck women. She seemed determined to "make" me a lesbian. And then when I finally did start dating a girl she ostracized me and made fun of me. She treated me horribly and like I was just a poser or something.

So, to conclude my long post, what do you think about people "converting" others. I mainly mean gays or lesbians taking advantage of confused people and telling them that they are not bisexual, they are not straight, that basically the only "answer" for them is being gay/lesbian.
Apr 25, 10:49 pm
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surreptitious surreptitious
I think that if I were sexually attracted to toasters that would be perfectly fine and no one could tell me that I was wrong or not allowed to be. I even don't have an issue with pedophilia as long as the person never acts on it (bolding that so that no one can possibly miss it). One can't help what they are attracted to and no one should try to "change" what anyone likes (though obviously there are some cases where it should be managed and not followed through with). That's not to say that one can't explore something else, but that's an entirely different issue.

Those same gay/lesbian people who are trying to "convert" bisexual (?) people to full-on homosexuality would be among the first to step up and say that it's never okay to try and "convert" someone to heterosexuality. That should go both ways for sure, and making the argument that one is born a certain way that was - and in some places still is - societally perceived as unnatural (homosexual) but can't be born a certain other way that may be perceived as unnatural (with fluid sexuality) is just plain pants-on-head idiotic.

I have a really bad tummy ache and an exam in the morning, but I couldn't pass by without writing anything at all, so I'll come back to this thread another time - I definitely still have more to say, now is just an unwise time to say it.
Apr 25, 11:25 pm
wrecklesswords wrecklesswords
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Originally posted by surreptitious
I think that if I were sexually attracted to toasters that would be perfectly fine and no one could tell me that I was wrong or not allowed to be. I even don't have an issue with pedophilia as long as the person never acts on it (bolding that so ... More
I eagerly await all else that you have to say! I'm very intrigued by your point of view on this.

They will be the first to say that you should not "convert" someone to heterosexuality, that is true and that is one of the points I'm trying to get across. What I have seen seems like these people don't want to allow someone to be into both males and females. Like all they want is someone else to "add to their army" and I know that sounds very horrible, but I don't mean it in an anti-gay kind of way. I am bisexual myself, but I would never tell someone that they are gay or straight. I would never feed them information to make them doubt what they feel inside of themselves, I would only give them advice on figuring out what is right for them.
Apr 25, 11:34 pm
Edeneve Edeneveef Edeneve Edeneveef
in my opinion, ethically, no one should take advantage of confused people. that's not to say that it doesn't happen all the time. just because it happens all the time doesn't make it right or ethical. and I'm sure there will always be people that disagree w/ this perspective.
Apr 26, 6:44 pm
wrecklesswords wrecklesswords
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Originally posted by Edeneve Edeneveef
in my opinion, ethically, no one should take advantage of confused people. that's not to say that it doesn't happen all the time. just because it happens all the time doesn't make it right or ethical. and I'm sure there will always ... More
I agree with you as well. I believe gay people taking advantage of confused people is just as tacky as straight people taking advantage of them. You should not convert anyone for any purpose.
Apr 27, 3:34 pm
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