The Italian Cruise Liner that Sank...

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Ansley Ansley
Does anyone else find it eerie that the Titanic sank almost 100 years ago and now there's this diaster? Both, seemingly, a result of the arrogance of the captain and crew at hand.


I don't know why, but this particular tragedy is weighing quite heavily on my mind and I'm just wondering how others feel about it.
01/16/2012
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Rossie Rossie
I felt sorry for those who died, and the ones that were injured. It's ridiculous that the captain was the first to abandon ship, good thing he got locked up!
01/16/2012
Ansley Ansley
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Originally posted by Rossie
I felt sorry for those who died, and the ones that were injured. It's ridiculous that the captain was the first to abandon ship, good thing he got locked up!
Agreed. The company that owns the ship pretty much told the lawyers to start throwing the books at him. Which, I'm impressed. To say the least. Normally when something like this *coughBPcough* happens, they deny deny deny and then deny some more and say it wasn't his fault. But I don't think you can ignore the countless eye-witness accounts of him standing on shore while people were literally dying to get off.
01/16/2012
Rossie Rossie
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Originally posted by Ansley
Agreed. The company that owns the ship pretty much told the lawyers to start throwing the books at him. Which, I'm impressed. To say the least. Normally when something like this *coughBPcough* happens, they deny deny deny and then deny some more ...
Carnival has to keep their reputation up.

And I hope they'll rescue all those who are still missing.
01/16/2012
Ansley Ansley
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Originally posted by Rossie
Carnival has to keep their reputation up.

And I hope they'll rescue all those who are still missing.
It does make me a little sick to my stomach that it's a Carnival ship, but solidifies my choice to never take a cruise.
01/16/2012
js250 js250
I am scared of the water and will never go on a cruise. With that being said, I cannot even imagine the fear and desparation of those people on that ship. And for the captain to escape and watch???? They should more than throw the book at him. How about a life raft....way off shore???
01/17/2012
Ansley Ansley
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Originally posted by js250
I am scared of the water and will never go on a cruise. With that being said, I cannot even imagine the fear and desparation of those people on that ship. And for the captain to escape and watch???? They should more than throw the book at him. How ...
Evidently, there is audio from the blackbox with the Coast Guard telling him to get his ass off the shore and back on the boat---for an hour; I read the transcript and it doesn't seem legit to me, but I'm not really familiar with how a Coast Guard captain would try to reign in a cowardly captain and try to get him back on the boat so I could be wrong.

Anyway, if the transcript is accurate, this guy deserves to be drawn and quartered, in public, while everyone who was on that boat and the victims families get to watch. Or hmmm...maybe the Burning Bull would be a better choice or the starving rats placed in a cage and tied to his stomach until the claw their way through. (I studied medieval and ancient torture methods in school, I would never want to see anyone go through those methods or wish them on them in reality, but something major needs to be done here.)
01/17/2012
Starkiller87 Starkiller87
I hope the captain gets maximum punishment. Leaving the ship 6 hours before everyone else. That is disgusting, way to hold up your oath as a captain.
01/17/2012
Princess-Kayla ♥ Princess-Kayla ♥
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Originally posted by Rossie
I felt sorry for those who died, and the ones that were injured. It's ridiculous that the captain was the first to abandon ship, good thing he got locked up!
I definitely agree.
I can see being scared or whatever, but you at least warn your passengers what happens before you just abandon ship.

I can see not exactly going down with your ship, but at least make sure that everyone on board is safe, and knows what's happening.
01/17/2012
Rossie Rossie
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Originally posted by Ansley
It does make me a little sick to my stomach that it's a Carnival ship, but solidifies my choice to never take a cruise.
Well, accident like this one is really rare, I'm more worried about germ contamination than an accident on a cruise liner. Cruises ARE really enjoyable, you should give it try!
01/18/2012
K101 K101
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Originally posted by Ansley
Does anyone else find it eerie that the Titanic sank almost 100 years ago and now there's this diaster? Both, seemingly, a result of the arrogance of the captain and crew at hand.


I don't know why, but this particular tragedy is ...
Sad. I actually haven't heard about this. I will soon I'm sure.

The Titanic was awful and I've done some reading about it and it really hits me pretty hard when reading or watching the movie even. It was such a devastating thing and just the thought of knowing you're about to go down like that and for some, having to leave their loved ones on the ship that's sinking... ugh. It's upsetting just to think about much less actually go through it. How awful. I'm not fond of ships. Only been on a ship once and it was nice, but I'd never go for a cruise or anything. Maybe I'm a paranoid kind of person though.
01/18/2012
Rossie Rossie
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Originally posted by K101
Sad. I actually haven't heard about this. I will soon I'm sure.

The Titanic was awful and I've done some reading about it and it really hits me pretty hard when reading or watching the movie even. It was such a devastating thing ...
It's currently all over the news.
01/18/2012
Ansley Ansley
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Originally posted by Princess-Kayla ♥
I definitely agree.
I can see being scared or whatever, but you at least warn your passengers what happens before you just abandon ship.

I can see not exactly going down with your ship, but at least make sure that everyone on board is ...
The captain is required by maritime law to stay on board regardless of what is happening until each and every person is off the ship. He didn't even wait for one person to get off the ship before he started heading for shore. The kicker? He was hired on with the cruise liner company as a safety officer and was given the ship several years later and then this happens.
01/18/2012
Silverdrop Silverdrop
He didn't just abandon ship, he took the crew with him as well. It was caterers and entertainers who were doing the most to help the passengers.

Then on the transcript with the Port Authority, he claimed they didn't abandon ship, but they were catapulted into the water.
01/18/2012
Ansley Ansley
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Originally posted by Silverdrop
He didn't just abandon ship, he took the crew with him as well. It was caterers and entertainers who were doing the most to help the passengers.

Then on the transcript with the Port Authority, he claimed they didn't abandon ship, but ...
I don't know what Italy's civil lawsuit system is like, but I hope like hell each and every single passenger who can still speak for themselves and the families for those who can't sue him until the cows come home. What a coward!
01/18/2012
mistressg mistressg
What happened, and how have I not heard about it?
01/18/2012
Ansley Ansley
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Originally posted by mistressg
What happened, and how have I not heard about it?
CNN has the lastest updates on the disaster. But, basically an Italian cruise liner, hit a reef off the coast of Italy and capsized. The captain took the boat too close to shore so "people could takes photos", though conflicting reports say that he was waving to people on shore when the accident occurred. 11 people are dead and up until recently 24 were missing. The captain jumped ship, leaving hundreds of people on board with no direction or system to get off the boat. The lifeboats weren't dropped and several dozen people were catapaulted into the water when the ship began to list.

You can read about it here: link
01/18/2012
Bignuf Bignuf
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Originally posted by Ansley
Does anyone else find it eerie that the Titanic sank almost 100 years ago and now there's this diaster? Both, seemingly, a result of the arrogance of the captain and crew at hand.


I don't know why, but this particular tragedy is ...
Boats are large metal objects floating on the water. 100 years ago, or 100 years from now, if someone punches a hole in one, it is going to sink. Period.

Safety features help far less people die now, and that is good. Will it save every person on board...each time?...no. Never. Not in 100 years or 1000 years. If you are at the point where the water splashes in, unless we develop gills in a few thousand years, we will drown. Sad, but so true.

It is tragic and in both cases, preventable. However, cruising, like flying, is safe, and far more so then driving to the port or airport. It is just that so long as there are people, nothing will be 100% infallible and things will happen.
01/26/2013
Bignuf Bignuf
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Originally posted by Ansley
CNN has the lastest updates on the disaster. But, basically an Italian cruise liner, hit a reef off the coast of Italy and capsized. The captain took the boat too close to shore so "people could takes photos", though conflicting reports say ...
Those who died were trapped on the part of the ship that flipped water side down.
01/26/2013
Bignuf Bignuf
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Originally posted by Silverdrop
He didn't just abandon ship, he took the crew with him as well. It was caterers and entertainers who were doing the most to help the passengers.

Then on the transcript with the Port Authority, he claimed they didn't abandon ship, but ...
Right...and then into a cab and away from the site....till the Italian Coast Guard reached him by phone and threatened him unless he returned to his ship!!!
01/26/2013
Bignuf Bignuf
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Originally posted by Rossie
Well, accident like this one is really rare, I'm more worried about germ contamination than an accident on a cruise liner. Cruises ARE really enjoyable, you should give it try!
We are going on our first in two weeks!!!!
01/26/2013
Bignuf Bignuf
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Originally posted by Princess-Kayla ♥
I definitely agree.
I can see being scared or whatever, but you at least warn your passengers what happens before you just abandon ship.

I can see not exactly going down with your ship, but at least make sure that everyone on board is ...
Exactly. No one in this day and age is expected to "go down with the ship", but they sure as heck are not expected to abandon it full of people trying to escape the sinking either.
01/26/2013
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