The thing about Nazi references

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The thing about Nazi references

carenautilus carenautilus
They shouldn't be used lightly. I see this a lot, and recently on a couple threads on Eden. It makes me sad, and upset. I'm not trying to go on a rampage to edit other people's speech. I'm not wildly rageful. I'm just sad, and I want to tell my side of this story.

Because, you see, when I think about Nazis I think about Chaim. Chaim was a red-haired Jew growing up in Germany in the 40's. He was a good student, and he liked to climb trees. He once hit his little sister and never quite forgave himself. He was a patient teacher. He had a temper. He lived in a small town, and he was friends with many of the German children who would grow up with Hitler's shadow at their back.

In 1941 a group of Nazi soldiers came to that small town. They rounded up the three Jewish families and the young man who talked slowly and thickly, and never grew up. They made the man recite riddles and songs that were hard for him to say or remember. When he stumbled they jeered and threw stones at him. They made the little girls kiss him. Later, drunk, they would rape and beat many of the girls and women. Chaim saw his sister Devorah raped and beaten bloody. She was twelve.

Chaim escaped and ran nearly ten miles to the house of his old teacher. His teacher, a German patriot who hated and actively worked against the Nazis, smuggled him out of the country. None of his sisters or brothers lived. He would eventually find out that his twelve year old sister had been the subject of brutal medical experiments, and had died of post-surgical infection. He never found out where his brothers or remaining sister died.

He was almost fifteen when he arrived at Ellis Island. He had met a girl a year his senior on the crowded boat. Her name was Rose. Chaim and Rose would make it in America. They clawed their way out of grief and poverty into something like comfort. Chaim and Rose had a child named David. David had a child named Devorah, after the lost little girl in Germany.

Devorah had me. And when I hear 'Nazi', I don't think about pictures of Obama with a stupid mustache. I don't think it's just a dramatic flourish. I think about Chaim and Rose and how much I owe them. I think about the young man singing and crying and so close to death. I think about the little girl Devorah, who died in pain. I think about my mother Devorah, who gets to live. And every time I hear about Hitler and Nazi Germany as a metaphor for current American politics, it breaks my heart.
10/10/2011
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Peggi Peggi
Quote:
Originally posted by carenautilus
They shouldn't be used lightly. I see this a lot, and recently on a couple threads on Eden. It makes me sad, and upset. I'm not trying to go on a rampage to edit other people's speech. I'm not wildly rageful. I'm just sad, and I ...
I call my office manager a Nazi, but I actually am calling her that comparatively to what we think of when we define the Nazi group under Hitler.

She manipulates those of authority around her into doing what she wants, which is mistreating those under her...but the thing is, the people don't realize that they are mistreating us! Basically, she has threatened and blackmailed me, made my coworker uncomfortable by feeling she NEEDS to be her outside-of-work friend for her job's sake, inserts herself into everyone's lives, controls our boss by knowing how to manipulate her, etc. It's pretty scary.

So, I suppose I feel the name fits her actions.

But, I understand fully what you're saying. It is misused often. That is the one and only case where I will use that word.
10/10/2011
carenautilus carenautilus
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Originally posted by Peggi
I call my office manager a Nazi, but I actually am calling her that comparatively to what we think of when we define the Nazi group under Hitler.

She manipulates those of authority around her into doing what she wants, which is mistreating ...
She sounds like a toxic and hurtful person. And my goal isn't to edit others' speech so much as to point that they are comparing whatever it is the brutal torture and murder of millions of people. And very few things are really comparable to that.
10/10/2011
Bignuf Bignuf
Quote:
Originally posted by carenautilus
They shouldn't be used lightly. I see this a lot, and recently on a couple threads on Eden. It makes me sad, and upset. I'm not trying to go on a rampage to edit other people's speech. I'm not wildly rageful. I'm just sad, and I ...
I read your amazing post in stunned silence.

I appreciate the miracle by which YOU are here.

I wish your statement above would be published on the front page of every paper in the USA...not just here on the pages of EF, and I BEG YOU...HONESTLY, please at least sent it to the NY Times, the NY Post and USA Today...as a Letter to the Editor. If it gets printed in one of those, it will get picked up and reprinted elsewhere.

Your words are too precious, and the sentiment too important, to NOT be heard elsewhere.

Bless you and may the souls of your departed relatives rest in comfort in God's hands.

Surely they are angels, since they had already been through hell, and had met the devil face to face, and triumphed....in YOUR being here!!!!
10/10/2011
Bignuf Bignuf
We have to add that we have enjoyed our time spent on EF Forums. We enjoy the posts and the "fun" polls and comments that have really spiced up our love life. We never expected, however, to be MOVED, in such a serious and deep way, by ANY comment here, and I am humbled....truly, to read your eloquence and passion, and to realize the amazing slice of humanity that may be sharing these otherwise "light hearted" pages. Bless you for your words. May you have such joy in your life as to slightly make up for the many tears shed to make it possible.
10/10/2011
carenautilus carenautilus
Quote:
Originally posted by Bignuf
We have to add that we have enjoyed our time spent on EF Forums. We enjoy the posts and the "fun" polls and comments that have really spiced up our love life. We never expected, however, to be MOVED, in such a serious and deep way, by ANY ...
I sincerely thank you for your blessings and good wishes, they mean a lot. My grandfather once told me that I was Chaim's purest and sweetest victory. The strength and courage that gives me is impossible to explain. I am never alone. I wish everyone had that.
10/10/2011
Peggi Peggi
Quote:
Originally posted by carenautilus
She sounds like a toxic and hurtful person. And my goal isn't to edit others' speech so much as to point that they are comparing whatever it is the brutal torture and murder of millions of people. And very few things are really comparable to that.
Oh, absolutely agreed.

Your thoughts on this issue really did make me stop and think, for a good while, I read it twice, actually. Not much can make me do that, and it made me think of all the times in the past I've heard this reference used where it should not have been.

In my particular case, I feel the term is somewhat correctly used, so there are some instances where people use this and rightfully so, but I agree it is used often where it should not be. And after reading this, I stopped to think of many times where I've heard just that!
10/11/2011
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