'Revenge Porn' legislature - are you following this?

Gary Gary
I think the whole concept or revenge porn is just insane. Do you think they need to more than they have been? Is the new proposed legislature too extreme? What do you think?

(this will certainly end all the celebrity sex tapes that get 'accidentally' released)
04/18/2013
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Pixel Pixel
I think it's a good idea, especially in the wake of recent cases where teen rapists shared pictures of the girls they had raped. (A 15 year old girl in Canada killed herself recently after her rapists sent pics of them raping her to the whole school.)
04/18/2013
js250 js250
I know that with the reputable amateur sites you already have to sign a form stating that unless the other person in the movie/camming/clip with you is another verified user you cannot include them. I cannot have my hubby in the cam with me or on clips...isn't this the same thing?? Now the government is stepping in...goodbye amateur porn.

I think the whole idea of the revenge porn is a bit...odd, but know this niche and the voyeur/exhibitionist clips are usually set up and regulated at the quality sites. Some of the foreign sites, though...I don't think they are very regulated.
04/18/2013
DeadIzzy DeadIzzy
I like you used of accidentally release. hahaha

Some of what I read in that article seems kind of silly. Like restricting the use of identifying info even if it's fake identification used in the video. If it's fake then that just seems stupid to restrict it. It's probably not going to lead back to anyone. If it's real then I would suggest that it's kind of implied consent since if the person wasn't ok with the info being in the video or whatever they would probably protest and walk out of the shoot. Plus I have seen some what of a model release form where info can be added that restrict how the media can be used. I would expect that one could add info saying that the persons real name or address can not be used or must be blurred.

As for the rape and stronger punishment for those who violate people under the age of 16. I would think this would be covered under child porn laws or child sex abuse laws already. Like the laws that say that a person has to be 18 to work in the industry. I also believe that some states if not federal government frown on depictions of rape anyway and may be outlawed. Not sure on that but seems like it is. I know in UT they say that even the depiction of child sex abuse even in cartoon or drawing form is illegal. I have no problem with that. I think that's kind of a good idea. So it seems to me that either they make the current laws have heavier punishments or perhaps do a better job of enforcing current laws. I am speaking as a criminal justice major with a BS. No that's not for bullshit. hahaha
04/18/2013
chicmichiw chicmichiw
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Originally posted by DeadIzzy
I like you used of accidentally release. hahaha

Some of what I read in that article seems kind of silly. Like restricting the use of identifying info even if it's fake identification used in the video. If it's fake then that just seems ... More
"if the person wasn't ok with the info being in the video or whatever they would probably protest and walk out of the shoot."

The idea of revenge porn is that you had sex with someone consensually, you broke up or had a fight at a later date, then to make them feel worse/yourself better, you post the explicit material on the internet to humiliate them. Obviously the other person was consenting at the time, but they didn't give consent for the movie/clip to be distributed. On a personal level, I think that's disgusting and I don't oppose legislation for it...though I don't know what good it will do, since everyone has a camera/picture taking device.
04/18/2013
FieryRed FieryRed
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Originally posted by Gary
I think the whole concept or revenge porn is just insane. Do you think they need to more than they have been? Is the new proposed legislature too extreme? What do you think?

(this will certainly end all the celebrity sex tapes that get ... More
Do you mean that you think it's insane for someone to publicize nude or sexual content involving someone else who didn't consent to its publication? Because I completely agree with that.

I recently read a story about a female Catholic school student who was dared and egged on by her two close male friends to send them a topless pic. After she did so, one or both of them sent the pic to the entire football team. The girl was expelled. The boys, though they had not only sent the same pic the girl had, but also violated her trust and privacy, were viewed as VICTIMS.

From the article: "HB 787 'prohibits knowing use of [content] that depicts nudity and contains any of depicted individual's personal identification information or counterfeit or fictitious information purporting to be such personal identification information, without first obtaining depicted person's written consent.'"

I think we do need some sort of legislation against sharing nude/sexual photos and videos without the explicit consent of all involved. The problem I have with with this wording is the "and". It prohibits content that shows "nudity and...any personal identification information". So would that mean that it's okay to share a nude photo of your ex with anyone you please, as long as you don't put her name on it??
04/18/2013
Gone (LD29) Gone (LD29)
I'm all for being able to go after someone who distributes "revenge porn". Based on a personal situation I had a long time ago that could have ended much worse than it did, I'd be grateful for some recourse if it ever happened again.
04/18/2013
Gary Gary
You guys have posted a lot of interesting stories that I had not heard.

If some one gives consent and then changes their mind... I would not consider that revenge porn.

If there is a case that involves anyone underage, that has another name & anyone underage is not capable of giving legal consent.
04/18/2013
FieryRed FieryRed
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Originally posted by Gary
You guys have posted a lot of interesting stories that I had not heard.

If some one gives consent and then changes their mind... I would not consider that revenge porn.

If there is a case that involves anyone underage, that has ... More
You're referring to written consent, right?

I completely agree with you on underage content. I also think that "underage" refers to anyone under 18, not 16.
04/18/2013
Petite Valentine Petite Valentine
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Originally posted by Pixel
I think it's a good idea, especially in the wake of recent cases where teen rapists shared pictures of the girls they had raped. (A 15 year old girl in Canada killed herself recently after her rapists sent pics of them raping her to the whole ... More
I'm not sure about Canadian law, but under US law that is a crime. It would be classified as child pornography because of her age and anyone caught distributing it would be in big trouble whether they were underage or not.

I think protections may be needed to protect people's privacy on the web, however the Florida law is a poorly worded mess.
04/18/2013
Sammi Sammi
I was reading this the other night, and the wording is a bit odd. While it would likely get rid of the "accidentally released" celebrity sex tapes (in Florida, anyhow), it's not clear what it does to some of the films and the pseudonyms they're taking on. It says the "depicted person" - is that the actual person that's shown in the film, or the person that's being depicted? Not the same thing at all.
04/18/2013
GONE! GONE!
It's a great idea. I hope it goes through and people start to take this seriously as a form of assault.
04/19/2013
Gunsmoke Gunsmoke
I just hear of this yesterday. My thoughts:

1. It's a cautionary tale. I'm shocked at how many people allow themselves to be recorded by people that they have less than secure relationships with.

2. Something should be done. NJ has a 'model' law that FL is considering. Nothing is perfect, but protections/sanctions are necessary. Approvals must be in writing.

3. People should be able to rescind their approval. When this is done reasonable efforts should be undertaken to take down the content.
04/19/2013
DeadIzzy DeadIzzy
I am sure that most revenge porn based sites are not exactly based on true story's of revenge. Like I doubt Joe Blow really dated had sex with and then posted videos of his GF. Which is kind of what I was thinking of when I talked about implied consent. A pornstar using her real or fake name is her choice and I can't imagine a a girl having sex with her BF would use a fake name if she doesn't expect the video to be posted on the net somewhere. The issue of consent would be in the video being posted and not the act of sex and then would blend into privacy laws or should.

Like if the video is shot in a house then there is an expectation of privacy. If they are out in the open then the expectation of privacy is gone. this is what allows this one guy who take a video camera around his city and film guys with hookers and then posting it on his site to decrease them from doing this is areas near schools and where kids usually hang out or play.

I would think that any person who posts material without consent could be punished by not having a 2257 form filed out by the person or persons in the pictures or video. It's probably a matter of what someone thinks to use against the offender. It also needs someone willing to go through the court system regardless as to how far things have to go so a precedence is set and hopefully in favor of the actual victim.

Last thing I want to say is I think it's nuts those pricks who talked the girl into sending topless pictures of herself were labeled as victims. That would be about as absurd as a rapist being called a victim. It's a fucked up system when people are improperly labeled like that. Sadly schools do retarded shit like that all the time. I recall seeing a story of a girl in a university being told if she pursued prosecution on a guy who raped her then she would be expelled. That's pretty fucked up.
04/19/2013
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