Fellatio Illegal? Porn harmful?

~LaUr3n~ ~LaUr3n~
Fellatio used to be illegal in many places. Women were used be thought as not able to reach orgasm. Many people used to not even know what either were. What is a clitoris People used to think it was in a woman's throat (it made men feel better about thrusting down women's throats). There used to be government projects to figure out if pornography was harmful (they turned out to show that it wasn't and many laws were abolished).

Can you imagine living in the time where this was all true (up until the late 70's)? Where questions like this were common? Issues like this were heated?

I personally am so glad I live in this time period!
10/14/2010
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ScottA ScottA
If fellatio is illegal why would you be encouraging it by claiming the clitoris is in the throat?

The laws covered much more than this. Anal sex was a perennial favorite for banning, as was trafficking in sex toys or sex information.
10/14/2010
Persephone Nightmare Persephone Nightmare
Technically, where I live (North Carolina) it's illegal to have sex in any other position except missionary and even then you have to have the covers over you, the lights off, and blinds/curtains closed. Also oral, anal, masturbation, and anything else not missionary is considered a crime against nature.

So, technically, according to my state's laws, Synthetik and I are practically felons, lmao

Albeit they're *very* old laws (the crimes against nature one is actually derived from an English statute that was passed during the time that Henry VIII was king) that are *still* on the law books, just like it being illegal to sing out of tune. I don't know if you'd *actually* get arrested for it, it's still pretty ridiculous.

Here's a site you can read up on it more, so this doesn't become a text wall, lol:

NC Crimes Against Nature
10/14/2010
~LaUr3n~ ~LaUr3n~
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Originally posted by ScottA
If fellatio is illegal why would you be encouraging it by claiming the clitoris is in the throat?

The laws covered much more than this. Anal sex was a perennial favorite for banning, as was trafficking in sex toys or sex information.
I'm confused? Me? I'm not...

"They " as in people living during that time.

And I know it covered much more...every sexual act including sex itself has been illegal for some reason in one area or another.
10/14/2010
~LaUr3n~ ~LaUr3n~
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Originally posted by Persephone Nightmare
Technically, where I live (North Carolina) it's illegal to have sex in any other position except missionary and even then you have to have the covers over you, the lights off, and blinds/curtains closed. Also oral, anal, masturbation, and ... More
Thanks for all that info! That's so crazy to me.
10/14/2010
The Nakanas The Nakanas
If you go to stupidlaws.com it breaks them down by state, and I'd say probably a good third of the ones on the site are sex related
10/14/2010
Persephone Nightmare Persephone Nightmare
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Originally posted by ~LaUr3n~
Thanks for all that info! That's so crazy to me.
No problem I find it insane as well. I (and I'm sure other people here on EF) personally believe that the government has no right to intrude into the bedrooms of this country (or state) as long as, of course, it is among consenting adults and there are no children, animals, or anything else that is/was living and cannot give their informed consent (trying to cover all the proper bases here, lol).

Yep, Nakana is right, lol. North Carolina is so darned backwards, not only about the sex stuff, but also with the fact that we *just* got the ability to have lottery tickets and a state education lottery a few years ago, and on top of all the other things, we can't even get good damned fireworks!
10/15/2010
LicentiouslyYours LicentiouslyYours
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Originally posted by ~LaUr3n~
Fellatio used to be illegal in many places. Women were used be thought as not able to reach orgasm. Many people used to not even know what either were. What is a clitoris People used to think it was in a woman's throat (it made men feel better ... More
Weird—I thought the "clit in the throat" thing was just made up for the plot of Deep Throat.

Also, while the laws broadly known as "sodomy laws" do still exist in many states as part of their criminal code, all such laws were invalidated by the 2003 Supreme Court decision in Lawrence v. Texas

In Kansas, until 2003, both oral and anal sex, as well as any sexual activity between same sex couples were illegal.

Of course, the one remaining exclusion to the repeal of sodomy laws is the military.
10/15/2010
Riccio Riccio
The worst of all of these laws were the ones against "miscegenation" - African Americans, Native Americans, Asian Americans and Anglo Americans could not marry.

"The sixteen states that had anti-miscegenation laws in 1967 were: Alabama, Arkansas, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, Missouri, North Carolina, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, Virginia, and West Virginia." link

Of course, African Americans may have appeared "white," but one black ancestor made them "black."
10/15/2010
Gary Gary
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Originally posted by LicentiouslyYours
Weird—I thought the "clit in the throat" thing was just made up for the plot of Deep Throat.

Also, while the laws broadly known as "sodomy laws" do still exist in many states as part of their criminal code, all such laws ... More
"I thought the "clit in the throat" thing was just made up for the plot of Deep Throat."

Yeah, I was about to say the exact same thing!
10/15/2010
ScottA ScottA
The problem with these laws is that in order to repeal any of them someone has to go on record sponsoring a bill. Since they're generally not enforced this will be politically a losing situation, since everyone in favor of them will be mobilized, while fewer people will find it important enough to campaign for repeal (since they're not being enforced, and there are still social blocks against admitting to some of these actions).
10/15/2010
LicentiouslyYours LicentiouslyYours
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Originally posted by ScottA
The problem with these laws is that in order to repeal any of them someone has to go on record sponsoring a bill. Since they're generally not enforced this will be politically a losing situation, since everyone in favor of them will be mobilized, ... More
It's my understanding that since the 2003 Supreme Court decision, the laws are unenforceable as they have been declared federally unconstitutional. So it doesn't really matter if they are still "on the books" and efforts to repeal or remove would just be a waste of time and money.
10/18/2010
~LaUr3n~ ~LaUr3n~
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Originally posted by LicentiouslyYours
Weird—I thought the "clit in the throat" thing was just made up for the plot of Deep Throat.

Also, while the laws broadly known as "sodomy laws" do still exist in many states as part of their criminal code, all such laws ... More
From what I learned in the documentary, it was already believed by some. They ran with it.
10/18/2010
~LaUr3n~ ~LaUr3n~
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Originally posted by LicentiouslyYours
It's my understanding that since the 2003 Supreme Court decision, the laws are unenforceable as they have been declared federally unconstitutional. So it doesn't really matter if they are still "on the books" and efforts to repeal ... More
That's really interesting!

glad to see you back btw!
10/18/2010
ToyGeek ToyGeek
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Originally posted by LicentiouslyYours
It's my understanding that since the 2003 Supreme Court decision, the laws are unenforceable as they have been declared federally unconstitutional. So it doesn't really matter if they are still "on the books" and efforts to repeal ... More
This. Once a law is tossed out as unconstitutional by the judicial system, that's the end of it. The only thing the legislative branch could do is to pass a new law, attempting to rework the old one in order to make it constitutional by addressing the court's specific objections. So, to oversimplify, if a law banned five things, and the courts threw it out on the basis of three of those things, the legislative branch could write a new law banning the other two. Since this clearly does not apply in this case, nor is it desirable, leaving it alone is the sanest course of action.
10/18/2010
ToyGeek ToyGeek
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Originally posted by ~LaUr3n~
From what I learned in the documentary, it was already believed by some. They ran with it.
What documentary? I'm always up for some educational fun.
10/18/2010
Persephone Nightmare Persephone Nightmare
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Originally posted by LicentiouslyYours
It's my understanding that since the 2003 Supreme Court decision, the laws are unenforceable as they have been declared federally unconstitutional. So it doesn't really matter if they are still "on the books" and efforts to repeal ... More
True, while it may not matter much that they're still on the books, I feel that it mostly matters that they were even made/enforced in the first place, lol.

If anything it shows exactly just how crazy some lawmakers are/were and crazy that some of those laws weren't seen as a severe breach of privacy, unconstitutional, and just plain wrong until the time they were deemed unenforcible (by the legal system anyway, I'm sure there was opposition among the general public, however, even if many weren't outspoken about it). That's just my opinion though, lol
10/18/2010
LicentiouslyYours LicentiouslyYours
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Originally posted by ToyGeek
What documentary? I'm always up for some educational fun.
I believe the documentary is called Inside Deep Throat.
10/19/2010
LicentiouslyYours LicentiouslyYours
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Originally posted by Persephone Nightmare
True, while it may not matter much that they're still on the books, I feel that it mostly matters that they were even made/enforced in the first place, lol.

If anything it shows exactly just how crazy some lawmakers are/were and crazy that ... More
Oh, I agree - my favorite law, still on the books, in North Dakota (my home state) is one that makes it legal to shoot a Native America from your covered wagon if he has followed you on horseback for more than 2 miles.

It's so ludicrous and yet, it was taken seriously at the time.


Less funny is the fact that less than 5 years ago, the ND legislature voted to uphold a law that makes it illegal for unmarried, unrelated members of the opposite sex to live in the same house.

It creates the very unique situation of allowing same-sex couples to cohabitate, but not marry and not allow opposite-sex couples to cohabitate unless married.

They recognize the law is unenforceable and yet they upheld it to send a "moral message."
10/19/2010
Gary Gary
Every now and then I stumble upon a listing of all those crazy old sex laws... I always get a laugh out of them! But yeah, then there is confusing realization that most of them are still laws.
10/20/2010
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