What do you think about a law barring parents from 'curing' gay children?

Petite Valentine Petite Valentine
CA, the same state that voted "Yes" on Proposition 8 has a new bill moving through their state legislature that may surprise some: a law which would ban all sexual orientation change effort (SOCE) treatment for minors.

You can read about it on Fox News, but a quick summarization is that the bill was introduced by State Sen. Ted W. Lieu (D-Redondo Beach) after a 2011 news story "detailed the harmful impact on vulnerable minors of this kind of supposed reparative therapy." At this time, the bill defines SOCE as "any therapy whose sole purpose or aim was to change a person's sexual orientation from same-sex to opposite sex attraction."

Do you think this is a good idea? Do you think the state is going to far?
08/19/2012
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Dixiemomma Dixiemomma
I think kids were better adjusted, had better manners and grew up to lead more productive and fulfilled lives before the government started stepping in telling us how to raise our kids. as far as "curing gayness" thats not possible... if a person is born gay then it really doesnt matter what the parents or anyone else does to try to convince them otherwise, but the child and parents will eventually work that out on their own without government intervention
08/19/2012
Geogeo Geogeo
Homosexuality cant be cured but im iffy of any government getting into personal lives like that
08/19/2012
- Kira - - Kira -
I don't like government getting involved in how people raise their children, even if I agree with the thought. I think it's awful for parents to try to "de-gay" their kids. I also don't want the government telling me what I can or can't do with my kid.
08/19/2012
Do emu Do emu
Bah, Fox News is a bunch of poo.

It's none of the government's business if my kid is gay or not. And why would you want to even TRY to cure homosexuality (not that you can)?

This shouldn't be passed. It's just awful. End of story.
08/19/2012
Petite Valentine Petite Valentine
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Originally posted by Do emu
Bah, Fox News is a bunch of poo.

It's none of the government's business if my kid is gay or not. And why would you want to even TRY to cure homosexuality (not that you can)?

This shouldn't be passed. It's just awful. End of story.
Did you actually read the article? Fox News has nothing to do with it, it's just a news site that reported the story. The government is not interested in whether anyone's child is gay or not, however state legislation is proposed to ban any parent from trying to change the sexual orientation of (i.e. 'cure') their child.
08/19/2012
ToyGeek ToyGeek
The "cures" are dangerous. Those selling them use false information that's not based on medical science to con parents into it. They absolutely deserve to be banned, and it has nothing to do with the government interfering in parenting, it has to do with the government stopping con artists from harming teenagers by preying on their parents' homophobia.
08/19/2012
bettle590 bettle590
I'm iffy about this because it involves one's own child, but compare it to "crisis pregnancy centers" that manipulate women with false information to fit their pro-life agenda. Those should absolutely be banned, and so should any businesses that claim to provide a therapeutical service. It would be interfering with parenting if it extended to individual parenting techniques though.
08/20/2012
GONE! GONE!
I think it should be banned, yes. I'm tired of child abuse being excused for religious reasons or "parent's rights." Parents do not have the right to harm people other than themselves.
08/20/2012
LittleArtemis LittleArtemis
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Originally posted by Petite Valentine
CA, the same state that voted "Yes" on Proposition 8 has a new bill moving through their state legislature that may surprise some: a law which would ban all sexual orientation change effort (SOCE) treatment for minors.

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Yes! I like this! Especially considering how harmful these 'cures' are! Things like this lead LGBTQ* children to suicide and are the reason why so many are in hiding! Maybe if we taught the parents to be more accepting instead of the children that there's something wrong with them the suicide rate would go down.
08/20/2012
gsfanatic gsfanatic
Yep, since it's wrong and can cause kids to have crippling emotional issues.
08/20/2012
Billie Bones Billie Bones
Conversion therapy is unethical and has been proven to be harmful. To force a minor into that kind of treatment is child abuse. If parents want to talk to their kids about sexuality there isn't much the government can do about that but I think its perfectly fine for there to be a law banning unsafe 'treatment' programs for queer kids.
08/22/2012
BlackCrescent BlackCrescent
I think it's not the children who need to change but rather the mindset of the parents.
08/23/2012
novanilla novanilla
I don't see anything wrong with that. It is psychologically damaging to a child to go through straight camps and counseling.
08/23/2012
mdnght mdnght
Quote:
Originally posted by Petite Valentine
CA, the same state that voted "Yes" on Proposition 8 has a new bill moving through their state legislature that may surprise some: a law which would ban all sexual orientation change effort (SOCE) treatment for minors.

You can read ... More
SOCE can cause permanent damage to a child's pysche. It should be just as illegal as trying to beat your child into being straight.
08/25/2012
Roz W Roz W
It's child abuse, and child abuse is (and should be) illegal.
09/08/2012
Gone (LD29) Gone (LD29)
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Originally posted by ToyGeek
The "cures" are dangerous. Those selling them use false information that's not based on medical science to con parents into it. They absolutely deserve to be banned, and it has nothing to do with the government interfering in ... More
Yes, this exactly.
09/08/2012
mandiegk mandiegk
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Originally posted by Roz W
It's child abuse, and child abuse is (and should be) illegal.
This is exactly what I was going to say. The government absolutely needs to step in here.
09/08/2012
P'Gell P'Gell
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Originally posted by ToyGeek
The "cures" are dangerous. Those selling them use false information that's not based on medical science to con parents into it. They absolutely deserve to be banned, and it has nothing to do with the government interfering in ... More
I agree. These programs that target teens and even younger kids and promise to "cure" them of being gay are dangerous and should be against the law.

There's a famous one in California, run by a guy who claims to be an "ex-gay." Uh... he ain't an "ex." He claims it works because he's married... to a woman... Uh huh.

Kids who have been through the program report abusive and torture like activities, as well as high level group shaming exercises. All who will talk say it was like being in Hell. Often they can't leave until they are "cured" even if they and their parents want them out of the program. It is unlawful imprisonment. That's a felony.

No one should be able to treat a child that way. Certainly not simply because he or she shows "Gay characteristic" or is honest enough to Come Out.

Out law them.
09/08/2012
edenguy edenguy
Quote:
Originally posted by Petite Valentine
CA, the same state that voted "Yes" on Proposition 8 has a new bill moving through their state legislature that may surprise some: a law which would ban all sexual orientation change effort (SOCE) treatment for minors.

You can read ... More
Sexual orientation change effort should be forbidden. If sexual orientation change effort meant changing from hetrosexual to homosexual the proponents of this would go berzerk.
09/08/2012
Sangsara Sangsara
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh makes me want to scream
09/08/2012
ImmortalFantasy ImmortalFantasy
I'm 100% for it. The things they do to members of the LGBT are horrifying and inhumane.
10/04/2012
A.S. A.S.
I think it should be banned, and there should be a law.
10/09/2012
TheProfessors TheProfessors
Curing homosexuality is a ridiculous thing to waste time/money on. Though, sending all of the horny teenage homosexuals to camps to 'cure homosexuality' was a rather interesting approach.

...really, you're going to put a bunch of gay/lesbian teens in a cabin together?? brilliant! I'm sure there would be thousands willing to attend.
10/29/2012
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