Vaseline Doesn't Hurt Silicone But It Wears Fleshlights?

callsignhusker callsignhusker
Just thought it was worth shouting this out. Fleshlights aren't 100% silicone they are some sort of blend. I've noticed over a couple years that using vaseline SEEMS to me to damage the fleshlight by forming tiny tears, but not other silicone toys. Perhaps the fleshlight is just worn with use and it's not the vaseline. In any case, fleshlights aren't as durable as other toys in my opinion.
03/14/2011
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markeagleone markeagleone
Quote:
Originally posted by callsignhusker
Just thought it was worth shouting this out. Fleshlights aren't 100% silicone they are some sort of blend. I've noticed over a couple years that using vaseline SEEMS to me to damage the fleshlight by forming tiny tears, but not other ... More
Silicone requires a water based lube. Vaseline is a petroleum product(based from oil). Technically, you should not use it on silicone!
03/14/2011
ToyTimeTim ToyTimeTim
Water based only with Fleshlights. There is nothing that says what Superskin is made of as it is a closely guarded secret.
03/14/2011
ToyTimeTim ToyTimeTim
Quote:
Originally posted by markeagleone
Silicone requires a water based lube. Vaseline is a petroleum product(based from oil). Technically, you should not use it on silicone!
I hate to disagree but, after some very intensive testing I can tell you, and show you soon, that any kind of oil based lube (natural or petroleum) is fine with pure silicone. I know that the EF materials list show water based only with silicone, but I have heard numerous people here on site and other places that play a lot with silicone toys and oil based lubes that it is fine. I too have used it quite a bit with no signs of damage.

My test will be in a work shop coming soon.
03/14/2011
markeagleone markeagleone
Quote:
Originally posted by ToyTimeTim
I hate to disagree but, after some very intensive testing I can tell you, and show you soon, that any kind of oil based lube (natural or petroleum) is fine with pure silicone. I know that the EF materials list show water based only with silicone, but ... More
I will be attending. My only point is that the user actually doesn't really know if is pure. I have done reviews and found inconsistancy in the material, from Eden, manufacture and the product box. For a small amount of money on water base, why not be sure?
03/14/2011
ToyTimeTim ToyTimeTim
Quote:
Originally posted by markeagleone
I will be attending. My only point is that the user actually doesn't really know if is pure. I have done reviews and found inconsistancy in the material, from Eden, manufacture and the product box. For a small amount of money on water base, why ... More
Agreed, plus I find water based to be a better all around lube.

The only way to know when in doubt is to test with a match. Caution must be used though, if it is TPR is will catch fire and burn very well. So like you say, water based is a much safer bet.
03/14/2011
markeagleone markeagleone
The Fleshlight is stated to be made of medical and food grade, phthalate-free polymers.[4] According to the Fleshlight website, the insert is not made from latex, plastic or silicone. The Fleshlight FAQ [5] claims the material is "a company secret covered by a series of US patents" but according to the public patent, the material is an elastomeric gel being formed from a mixture of 90–94% by weight of plasticizing oil and of 5–9% by weight of a block copolymer comprising an admixture of a styrene ethylene butylene styrene block copolymer and a styrene ethylene propylene styrene block copolymer combined in a ratio of 1:5 to 5:1. Due to the chemical composition of this material, it is only suitable for use with water-based lubricants, as oil-based lubricants or soaps will damage the material permanently.___Wikiped ia
03/14/2011
ToyTimeTim ToyTimeTim
Quote:
Originally posted by markeagleone
The Fleshlight is stated to be made of medical and food grade, phthalate-free polymers.[4] According to the Fleshlight website, the insert is not made from latex, plastic or silicone. The Fleshlight FAQ [5] claims the material is "a company ... More
Kind of scary when you find stuff like that. lol
03/14/2011
Mark43 Mark43
Dont use it, not good for the materials.
03/16/2011
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