#Workshop - April 13th @ 7pm: Lube Compatibility

sexyintexas sexyintexas
Wow thats crazy!
04/13/2011
Airen Wolf Airen Wolf
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Originally posted by Misfit Momma
Ok all caught up. The kids decided it would be the perfect time for simultaneousness temper tantrums just as you started
Heh my temper tnatrum is chasing the cat around the backyard while wearing only a diaper...I can see him from my office windows.
04/13/2011
Airen Wolf Airen Wolf
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Originally posted by ToyTimeTim
Next up TPR Silicone.







Here we can see some slight deformation It has left a welt on the material. Although with this one, instead of a bump it was sunken into the material. Kind of weird. It was hard to see but it was ... More
So strange! We need us a toy manufacturer here to question...and some lab coats.
04/13/2011
LadyAurora LadyAurora
That is interesting!
04/13/2011
sexyintexas sexyintexas
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Originally posted by Airen Wolf
So strange! We need us a toy manufacturer here to question...and some lab coats.
....with nothing underneath...
04/13/2011
ToyTimeTim ToyTimeTim
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Originally posted by ToyTimeTim
Next up TPR Silicone.







Here we can see some slight deformation It has left a welt on the material. Although with this one, instead of a bump it was sunken into the material. Kind of weird. It was hard to see but it was ... More
Sorry guys, don't know what happened to the first pic.
04/13/2011
Misfit Momma Misfit Momma
I haven't had any toys ruined by lube yet, but have had a TPR and a Jelly toy end up with flat spots due to contact in storage.
04/13/2011
Vaccinium Vaccinium
It seems like the lubes are causing an air or fluid pocket to form, and then over the course of a couple days, disappears when no more lube is in contact with it.
04/13/2011
DeliciousSurprise DeliciousSurprise
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Originally posted by ToyTimeTim
Sorry guys, don't know what happened to the first pic.
Either your photo was taken down from flickr, or your image has privacy settings up and hotlinking is disabled
04/13/2011
ToyTimeTim ToyTimeTim
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Originally posted by Airen Wolf
So strange! We need us a toy manufacturer here to question...and some lab coats.
I am planing some questions for Tantus for sure.
04/13/2011
Vaccinium Vaccinium
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Originally posted by DeliciousSurprise
Either your photo was taken down from flickr, or your image has privacy settings up and hotlinking is disabled
Most likely the latter. That has happened to me as well.
04/13/2011
LadyAurora LadyAurora
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Originally posted by ToyTimeTim
I am planing some questions for Tantus for sure.
I wonder how their O2 would fare.
04/13/2011
Airen Wolf Airen Wolf
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Originally posted by Vaccinium
It seems like the lubes are causing an air or fluid pocket to form, and then over the course of a couple days, disappears when no more lube is in contact with it.
There ya go that could just be the answer...chalk it up to weird chemical reactions. That would explain why it goes back into shape with veins and all, the underlying shape isn't disturbed so when the pocket shrinks it looks perfectly normal.
04/13/2011
Kake aka PoeticErotica Kake aka PoeticErotica
So, so far, it seems, for all practical purposes, at least w/ these particular toys, as long as your willing to wait a couple of days for the "welts" to go away, and you're using actual LUBE & not MOTOR OIL or some other product like, oh, idk, maybe vaseline, then the whole doin't use this w/ this lube thing is a bit of a myth?
04/13/2011
Jobthingy Jobthingy
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Originally posted by ToyTimeTim
I am planing some questions for Tantus for sure.
youll have to post them here if/when they get back to you
04/13/2011
Jobthingy Jobthingy
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Originally posted by Airen Wolf
There ya go that could just be the answer...chalk it up to weird chemical reactions. That would explain why it goes back into shape with veins and all, the underlying shape isn't disturbed so when the pocket shrinks it looks perfectly normal.
i would think though, that if it is a fluid pocket, over time, that stretching would peel away
04/13/2011
ToyTimeTim ToyTimeTim
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Originally posted by Vaccinium
It seems like the lubes are causing an air or fluid pocket to form, and then over the course of a couple days, disappears when no more lube is in contact with it.
Could be, most of them looked like hickies. Some looked like depressions. I had thought that maybe the depressions may have been from the packaging but a lot of them are in between the texture. So I am not sure.
04/13/2011
sexyintexas sexyintexas
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Originally posted by Kake aka PoeticErotica
So, so far, it seems, for all practical purposes, at least w/ these particular toys, as long as your willing to wait a couple of days for the "welts" to go away, and you're using actual LUBE & not MOTOR OIL or some other product ... More
Right?!
04/13/2011
ToyTimeTim ToyTimeTim
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Originally posted by Jobthingy
youll have to post them here if/when they get back to you
They will be right here on the forums.
04/13/2011
ToyTimeTim ToyTimeTim
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Originally posted by Kake aka PoeticErotica
So, so far, it seems, for all practical purposes, at least w/ these particular toys, as long as your willing to wait a couple of days for the "welts" to go away, and you're using actual LUBE & not MOTOR OIL or some other product ... More
hehe Wait for it...
04/13/2011
Jobthingy Jobthingy
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Originally posted by ToyTimeTim
They will be right here on the forums.
you rock
04/13/2011
ToyTimeTim ToyTimeTim
Last but not least Petroleum based Vaseline.





On all but the UR3, there was no signs of welts or damage of any kind. The UR3 had a big welt, as you can see. Once again, it was gone the next day.

Folks, I am at a loss here. For the last year I have read and told people about not using some lubes with some materials. Stating that it will destroy the toy. I have talked to some other contributors and they have told me about damage to their toys. Such as using a condom with silicone lube permanently deforming a silicone dildo. So I know that that damage can occur.

So in conclusion, let us just say this; Follow the recommendation on the packaging, manufacturers website and EF. Even though I can not show any permanent damage, I have no way of testing if while using a certain lube that some of the material is not leaching into our body's. Maybe that is another reason why companies recommend against it.

Personally I feel that some of these recommendations are from the past when materials where not as good as they are today. They have come a long way in the material department.
04/13/2011
Airen Wolf Airen Wolf
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Originally posted by Kake aka PoeticErotica
So, so far, it seems, for all practical purposes, at least w/ these particular toys, as long as your willing to wait a couple of days for the "welts" to go away, and you're using actual LUBE & not MOTOR OIL or some other product ... More
I think it's more that it proves why you should spot test your more expensive toys before slathering them with what could be incompatible lube. If all you need is a seriously thorough cleaning to remove the lube and it doesn't effect the finish of the toy then you have a toy that is ok to use with your favorite lube.

This isn't an exhaustive test of all brands and formulations of lube or all toys made of these products...so the warning to be cautious is still legitimate. I have ugly spots on my Bubbles silicone toy from silicone lube that dripped on it so there IS still some concern.
04/13/2011
sexyintexas sexyintexas
Are you using better quality lubes? Maybe that has something to do with it too..
04/13/2011
ToyTimeTim ToyTimeTim
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Originally posted by Airen Wolf
I think it's more that it proves why you should spot test your more expensive toys before slathering them with what could be incompatible lube. If all you need is a seriously thorough cleaning to remove the lube and it doesn't effect the ... More
THIS!!! I am only showing a small portion of materials from three or four manufacturers. Always spot test before to make sure.
04/13/2011
LadyAurora LadyAurora
Wow! I'm really surprised by these outcomes. I'll still advise as I do now, just to avoid having anyone destroy a costly toy, but I'll keep this in mind and hopefully we can find out why these outcomes happened during your tests.
04/13/2011
Kake aka PoeticErotica Kake aka PoeticErotica
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Originally posted by Airen Wolf
I think it's more that it proves why you should spot test your more expensive toys before slathering them with what could be incompatible lube. If all you need is a seriously thorough cleaning to remove the lube and it doesn't effect the ... More
Good point & I certainly wouldn't go around putting oil on silicone (did I get it right?) but it does seem a bit exaggerated in these particular cases. And yes, spot checking expensive toys is an excellent idea & one I hadn't thought of - tyvm for the tip!
04/13/2011
Jobthingy Jobthingy
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Originally posted by ToyTimeTim
Last but not least Petroleum based Vaseline.











On all but the UR3, there was no signs of welts or damage of any kind. The UR3 had a big welt, as you can see. Once again, it was gone the next day. ... More
maybe it is a certain ingredient that pits and melts toys. one that would not be in all lubes. *shrugs*
04/13/2011
Airen Wolf Airen Wolf
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Originally posted by ToyTimeTim
Last but not least Petroleum based Vaseline.











On all but the UR3, there was no signs of welts or damage of any kind. The UR3 had a big welt, as you can see. Once again, it was gone the next day. ... More
I would tend to agree as I have had silicone toys ruined by mostly cheaper brands of silicone lube. It's why I prefer wood, hard plastic, glass, metal and ceramic toys for silicone lube use.

Still higher end silicone lube and higher end silicone products have never been affected by contact with each other, at least in my home.

I guess all we can really say is spot test your toys before using them with a lube not recommended by the manufacturer! Better you have a weird spot in an inconspicuous case than totally ruin an old friend.
04/13/2011
Jul!a Jul!a
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Originally posted by Airen Wolf
I think it's more that it proves why you should spot test your more expensive toys before slathering them with what could be incompatible lube. If all you need is a seriously thorough cleaning to remove the lube and it doesn't effect the ... More
Great advice Airen!
04/13/2011
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