Whoa whoa whoa whoa...Editors?

Contributor: CafeSabroso CafeSabroso
I just signed up for the program. Hopefully, I will be able to get in.
11/26/2010
Contributor: B8trDude B8trDude
Hi Cynthia,

Thanks for the answer; however, I'm either confused or there's a glitch in the program. My current rank is above 5.5 and I've got two reviews that I submitted a couple of days ago that have not been published. Also, I cannot edit them as I used to be able to in the past (I can still edit some of the other reviews).

As I mentioned before, I also submitted several follow-up reviews and only one of those posted instantly. The others still are not there. Any ideas? Thanks!
11/26/2010
Contributor: Dusk Dusk
This is really exciting! I love working on things like this; I just applied
11/26/2010
Contributor: ToyTimeTim ToyTimeTim
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Originally posted by B8trDude
Hi Cynthia,

Thanks for the answer; however, I'm either confused or there's a glitch in the program. My current rank is above 5.5 and I've got two reviews that I submitted a couple of days ago that have not been published. Also, I ... more
As far as follow-up reviews, if the are assigned reviews they will not auto publish. They must go through the editing process. Hope that helps a bit.
11/26/2010
Contributor: Viktor Vysheslav Malkin Viktor Vysheslav Malkin
I just don't understand the point of rating anyway? I mean, what I think would be better. Be picky, let those who want to be part of the program submit a request, give them a fake review, or a real review (or any document) to for them to edit, one that will test them. If they pass, let them be an editor. I just do not see the point of the editor ranking, we have enough ratings with the review program, do we really need more? I just think that someone coming to Eden that has not familiarized themselves with the site goes and reads a bad review, and rates the the editor as poor even though the grammar was perfect. With the review rating system it is pretty obvious, not so much with the editor rating system. I don't know if this has happened yet, but it is a concern.

I think expanding on editors is a fine idea, I am all for the idea. Heck, you can even put their names underneath the reviews "This review was edited by:", but I just don't know about the need for a vote.
11/26/2010
Contributor: Emma (Girl With Fire) Emma (Girl With Fire)
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Originally posted by Viktor Vysheslav Malkin
I just don't understand the point of rating anyway? I mean, what I think would be better. Be picky, let those who want to be part of the program submit a request, give them a fake review, or a real review (or any document) to for them to edit, ... more
Maybe I am misunderstanding, but it seems like the voting on the editing will just contribute to the rank that contributors already have? Just like rating our reviews does.
11/26/2010
Contributor: Sir Sir
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Originally posted by Viktor Vysheslav Malkin
I just don't understand the point of rating anyway? I mean, what I think would be better. Be picky, let those who want to be part of the program submit a request, give them a fake review, or a real review (or any document) to for them to edit, ... more
Voting is so that the editor can be evaluated, and possibly taken out of the editor program or kept in. This is what I thought it was for.
11/26/2010
Contributor: Viktor Vysheslav Malkin Viktor Vysheslav Malkin
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Originally posted by Emma (Girl With Fire)
Maybe I am misunderstanding, but it seems like the voting on the editing will just contribute to the rank that contributors already have? Just like rating our reviews does.
That is correct, as far as I know, I just don't know if voting on editors is really necessary.
11/26/2010
Contributor: Sir Sir
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Originally posted by Viktor Vysheslav Malkin
That is correct, as far as I know, I just don't know if voting on editors is really necessary.
I find it to be necessary. But the test that you mentioned would be a good evaluation, too.
11/26/2010
Contributor: ScottA ScottA
Interesting feature. My guess is that if you need to edit a review after the edit link has gone dead you can send a message to one of the admins. My read is that they limit editing because of the contributors that delete their reviews and leave.
11/26/2010
Contributor: Gary Gary
Hey everyone! I am happy to see everyone is so excited. This feature has been in the works for a while, (one of the two big ones I have hinted about). Well, it was actually released a few days ahead of schedule. We had planned on the announcing and releasing on Monday. So, for whatever the reason it is live now. Please check it out, and I will post the official announcement and answer questions in a few minutes.
11/26/2010
Contributor: clp clp
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Originally posted by Viktor Vysheslav Malkin
I just don't understand the point of rating anyway? I mean, what I think would be better. Be picky, let those who want to be part of the program submit a request, give them a fake review, or a real review (or any document) to for them to edit, ... more
I'm kinda with you on the 'test' idea (vs. ranking). You either have it or you don't, and you probably shouldn't be editing others if not. Unlike the usefulness/less of thoughts that are described in reviews, grammar and spelling isn't debatable.

I think this is a great idea, as some of us just love the red pen and want to help EF present the best face for other users. I'll need to work my own contributor rank up before I can join, but you can bet that I will!
11/26/2010
Contributor: Kindred Kindred
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Originally posted by Gary
Hey everyone! I am happy to see everyone is so excited. This feature has been in the works for a while, (one of the two big ones I have hinted about). Well, it was actually released a few days ahead of schedule. We had planned on the announcing and ... more
Thanks Gary!

/waits anxiously for the post
11/26/2010
Contributor: ToyTimeTim ToyTimeTim
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Originally posted by Kindred
Thanks Gary!

/waits anxiously for the post
Ya, me too. I think this could work real nice.
11/26/2010
Contributor: Gary Gary
Here is the official announcement folks!
11/26/2010
Contributor: B8trDude B8trDude
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Originally posted by ToyTimeTim
As far as follow-up reviews, if the are assigned reviews they will not auto publish. They must go through the editing process. Hope that helps a bit.
Ah, maybe that's what was going on - now I'll sleep again! LOL!
11/26/2010
Contributor: B8trDude B8trDude
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Originally posted by Viktor Vysheslav Malkin
I just don't understand the point of rating anyway? I mean, what I think would be better. Be picky, let those who want to be part of the program submit a request, give them a fake review, or a real review (or any document) to for them to edit, ... more
I think I'm with you on this Viktor. I'm not quite certain how we can give the editor a rating unless we see the before and after edited versions of the review. A "this review was edited by..." statement might be okay though.
11/26/2010
Contributor: Sir Sir
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Originally posted by B8trDude
I think I'm with you on this Viktor. I'm not quite certain how we can give the editor a rating unless we see the before and after edited versions of the review. A "this review was edited by..." statement might be okay though.
That actually makes more sense than what Viktor was saying. Now I understand your reasoning as to why you're against the voting more.
11/26/2010
Contributor: ~LaUr3n~ ~LaUr3n~
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Originally posted by ToyGeek
Okay, cool program. Now to whom do I report a grammatical error in the proofreading program instructions?
LMAO! I notice them around the site from time to time too.
11/26/2010
Contributor: leela leela
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Originally posted by B8trDude
I think I'm with you on this Viktor. I'm not quite certain how we can give the editor a rating unless we see the before and after edited versions of the review. A "this review was edited by..." statement might be okay though.
Exactly what I've been thinking. There's no way to tell how much of the review is the editor's doing and how much was in the original.

I like the idea of this editor program, though. Grammatical mistakes and misspellings annoy the shit out of me.
11/26/2010
Contributor: B8trDude B8trDude
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Originally posted by leela
Exactly what I've been thinking. There's no way to tell how much of the review is the editor's doing and how much was in the original.

I like the idea of this editor program, though. Grammatical mistakes and misspellings annoy ... more
I agree. Every time, eye sea miss spelings and gramaticle miss takes, it drives me nuts to. It relee drives mi crazy when their our alot of problems and it wood bee alot easier if they could insure that everyones problems werent their and the everyoneelses mistakes werent their two. The wons that make mi the crazyest our mi own.
11/27/2010
Contributor: Tart Tart
Hell yea! It's a sweet gig.
11/27/2010
Contributor: Kindred Kindred
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Originally posted by B8trDude
I think I'm with you on this Viktor. I'm not quite certain how we can give the editor a rating unless we see the before and after edited versions of the review. A "this review was edited by..." statement might be okay though.
My feeling is that the editor voting is purely based on the grammatical correctness of the review. As long as the review reads well and is correct, it doesn't matter what it looked like before. He/she will have done their job in editing the piece.

My concern is that people will misinterpret and start to judge editors for the content of the review. Perhaps if there were more explanation with the vote, like one of the "i" information icons so people understand how they should be voting. Alternatively, maybe allow only reviewers with a certain rating to cast an editor rating vote. If a reviewer rating of 5.0 is a pre-requisite for becoming an editor, perhaps that should be the cut-off mark for voting as well? The assumption is that at 5.0 a reviewer has a good understanding of grammatical correctness.
11/27/2010
Contributor: Emma (Girl With Fire) Emma (Girl With Fire)
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Originally posted by B8trDude
I agree. Every time, eye sea miss spelings and gramaticle miss takes, it drives me nuts to. It relee drives mi crazy when their our alot of problems and it wood bee alot easier if they could insure that everyones problems werent their and the ... more
lmao
11/27/2010
Contributor: leela leela
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Originally posted by B8trDude
I agree. Every time, eye sea miss spelings and gramaticle miss takes, it drives me nuts to. It relee drives mi crazy when their our alot of problems and it wood bee alot easier if they could insure that everyones problems werent their and the ... more
lol i kno rite?!
11/27/2010
Contributor: Sir Sir
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Originally posted by B8trDude
I agree. Every time, eye sea miss spelings and gramaticle miss takes, it drives me nuts to. It relee drives mi crazy when their our alot of problems and it wood bee alot easier if they could insure that everyones problems werent their and the ... more
My eyes are bleeding, you know. That must have taken you hours to type.
11/27/2010
Contributor: cherryredhead88 cherryredhead88
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Originally posted by Sir
My eyes are bleeding, you know. That must have taken you hours to type.
Lol I agree! It would be hard for me to write something out like that, I am OCD with that kind of stuff!
11/27/2010
Contributor: PassionQT PassionQT
I'd love to help, but right now I have my hands full trying to keep up with my own reviews and students, so depending on what we have to do exactly, I'll think about it.

How much of their reviews can actually be changed? Just grammatical stuff and syntax? That I wouldn't mind doing.
11/27/2010
Contributor: B8trDude B8trDude
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Originally posted by Sir
My eyes are bleeding, you know. That must have taken you hours to type.
Sorry but I couldn't help it
11/27/2010
Contributor: B8trDude B8trDude
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Originally posted by leela
lol i kno rite?!
roflmao
11/28/2010