Terminology... briefly

butts butts
Just to clear things up a tad, since I've seen -A LOT- of people misusing certain words.

GENDER, is the word that describes your MENTAL identity, which is not correlated to your physical SEX. Words that are attached to GENDER are woman, lady, women, girl, guy, boy, man, men, androgynous (CAN refer to someone's body), and so on. Gender is also correlated with which pronouns you use.

SEX, is the word that describes your PHYSICAL BODY, your GENITALS, which is not correlated to your GENDER. Words that are attached to SEX are male, intersex, hermaphrodite, female, and names of genitals and so on.

I'm sure there's words I left out, but you get the idea.

I'm just starting to get a little peeved, seeing people play word police when they misuse words themselves.
03/19/2012
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TheParrishism TheParrishism
Quote:
Originally posted by butts
Just to clear things up a tad, since I've seen -A LOT- of people misusing certain words.

GENDER, is the word that describes your MENTAL identity, which is not correlated to your physical SEX. Words that are attached to GENDER are woman, ... More
I agree but i think that in certain contexts, the words can be interchangeable. It depends on the conversation.
03/19/2012
GONE! GONE!
"Male" and "female" apply to gender too you know (I see a lot of people calling themselves "male/female-iden tified."), hence why there is a growing number of trans* people using terms like "male/female assigned at birth" instead of describing their sex as "male/female" ; because of the terminology overlap. It makes a lot more sense imo. When people just straight-up describe someone's body as "male/female" ; people assume gender as well as continue to perpetuate nasty ideas that you are whatever your body looks like and that your genitals' appearance is the most important thing to consider for things.
03/19/2012
pestilence pestilence
That's the popular definition in queer communities nowadays, but it's not the only definition. Sex and gender have been synonymous for a long time, and most dictionaries still define them as such. There are also trans people who choose to see their sex as male or female because they are a man/woman and their body is thus a man's/woman's body, and although that'd be a tough sell to a medical doctor, I don't see what's wrong with them defining themselves that way.
03/19/2012
butts butts
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Originally posted by GONE!
"Male" and "female" apply to gender too you know (I see a lot of people calling themselves "male/female-iden tified."), hence why there is a growing number of trans* people using terms like "male/female assigned at ... More
I understand what you're saying, but to me at least, when people say male/female identified it means that they identify with that body, that set of genitals, separate from their gender identity (man/woman/etc). What people tend to assume doesn't really seem relevant, that seems way more related to the social conditioning that makes people think that your brain can't differ from your body. I do understand what you're saying though!
03/20/2012
butts butts
Quote:
Originally posted by pestilence
That's the popular definition in queer communities nowadays, but it's not the only definition. Sex and gender have been synonymous for a long time, and most dictionaries still define them as such. There are also trans people who choose to see ... More
Definitely makes sense.
03/20/2012
Caulfield Caulfield
Another thing that slightly bugs me is that "transgendered" isn't correct, it should be "transgender issues". You wouldn't say "lesbianed issues" or "femaled issues".
03/20/2012
butts butts
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Originally posted by Caulfield
Another thing that slightly bugs me is that "transgendered" isn't correct, it should be "transgender issues". You wouldn't say "lesbianed issues" or "femaled issues".
HAH, that is kinda silly isn't it? I never knew how to feel about the word "transgendered" compared to "transgender", but when you say it like that it seems extra off!
03/21/2012
TheParrishism TheParrishism
Quote:
Originally posted by butts
HAH, that is kinda silly isn't it? I never knew how to feel about the word "transgendered" compared to "transgender", but when you say it like that it seems extra off!
I agree. I struggle with my inner grammer nazi and what just sounds better.
03/21/2012
Lock Lock
Male, female, etc isn't an issue for me as far as gender, because male and female are gendered terms. I don't even really much care for trying to define someone by their biological or assigned sex, because clearly many trans people do not identify with what their bodies were assigned or how their bodies were born.
03/23/2012
MasonM MasonM
Quote:
Originally posted by butts
Just to clear things up a tad, since I've seen -A LOT- of people misusing certain words.

GENDER, is the word that describes your MENTAL identity, which is not correlated to your physical SEX. Words that are attached to GENDER are woman, ... More
My body is female. I am a guy. I am working to bring my body more in line with my self.

That's just how I put it.
03/23/2012
Schattenstern Schattenstern
Thank you all so much for correcting these. It's always interesting to see how people use words to describe themselves and groups in situations like this where society doesn't make it clear.
04/21/2012
Bex1331 Bex1331
Thank you! My boyfriend's sociology teacher actually tried to tell him that the definitions were the exact opposite (gender is biological while sex is what is how a person feels), since this conversation took place via e-mail I quickly stepped in and corrected him.
04/21/2012
ghalik ghalik
Quote:
Originally posted by butts
Just to clear things up a tad, since I've seen -A LOT- of people misusing certain words.

GENDER, is the word that describes your MENTAL identity, which is not correlated to your physical SEX. Words that are attached to GENDER are woman, ... More
This is my #1 pet peeve.
04/21/2012
TakeHimAway TakeHimAway
Quote:
Originally posted by Caulfield
Another thing that slightly bugs me is that "transgendered" isn't correct, it should be "transgender issues". You wouldn't say "lesbianed issues" or "femaled issues".
This.
05/14/2012
Rey Rey
+1
Nice, clear explanation
05/24/2012
thisisadeletedaccount thisisadeletedaccount
Quote:
Originally posted by GONE!
"Male" and "female" apply to gender too you know (I see a lot of people calling themselves "male/female-iden tified."), hence why there is a growing number of trans* people using terms like "male/female assigned at ... More
Thanks for your comment! I vastly prefer assigned-at-birth language to male/female-bodied language. As a genderqueer person, I think of and describe myself as having a genderqueer body, and female assigned at birth is a far more comfortable descriptive marker for me than female-bodied.
05/25/2012
Modern^Spank^Anthem Modern^Spank^Anthem
interesting thread
05/25/2012
alextge alextge
Quote:
Originally posted by butts
Just to clear things up a tad, since I've seen -A LOT- of people misusing certain words.

GENDER, is the word that describes your MENTAL identity, which is not correlated to your physical SEX. Words that are attached to GENDER are woman, ... More
I think most people don't mean it offensively, you gotta cut people some slack
05/29/2013
needapacker needapacker
Quote:
Originally posted by butts
I understand what you're saying, but to me at least, when people say male/female identified it means that they identify with that body, that set of genitals, separate from their gender identity (man/woman/etc). What people tend to assume ... More
But see, if we are going by your gender terms, that means my gender has changed (and it hasn't). I went from boy to man. Two seperate terms. But my gender didn't change, my age did. My gender has always been male. My gender isn't man. That doesn't even sound right grammatically.

And I like the whole assigned at birth thing better than speaking in terms of your sex. My sex now is not the same as my birth sex. Hence why I am a transsexual.
05/30/2013
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