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Should women be able to walk around topless in the USA?
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I personally believe that we should all get over the nudity hangup. Our society in general is ridiculous in that way. Think of the most hung up, repressive societies where women are required to cover up, and they are also horribly abusive to women.
Originally posted by
Just Jen
Men get to, babies get to, why are breast to be kept covered?
05/03/2011
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I totally agree.
Originally posted by
Carrie Ann
I don't think men or women should be allowed to run around without a shirt in public.
I do think places like designated beaches and your own back yard should be fine, however.
For me it's just a personal thing, though. There ...
I do think places like designated beaches and your own back yard should be fine, however.
For me it's just a personal thing, though. There ...
I don't think men or women should be allowed to run around without a shirt in public.
I do think places like designated beaches and your own back yard should be fine, however.
For me it's just a personal thing, though. There are plenty of men and women I have no desire to see topless. At all.
I do think places like designated beaches and your own back yard should be fine, however.
For me it's just a personal thing, though. There are plenty of men and women I have no desire to see topless. At all.
05/03/2011
I dunno whether or not it's explicitly illegal but I have seen many xxx videos with public nudity, in my city too, and the only ones that are bothered by it are old ladies If there is not a cop around it's totally fine. Here you can park in the middle of the road for years and nobody will punish you except the citizens.. Here in a street close by somebody parks on the wrong side since years and buses and everybody often stop because he/she creates only 1 lane passabe, it's hilarious and nerve racking at the same time.. Okay back on topic
05/03/2011
If women so choose they ought to be able to go topless. My only thought on this is that the reason that men find women- or certain parts of a woman's anatomy so attractive is that they are hidden, and to a point taboo which lends them a more pronounced sexual allure. If all women were to start going topless in public I feel that that allure would be diminished and a woman's breasts would no longer be thought of in the same light due to their repeated exposure in non-sexual situations.
05/19/2011
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I 100% tee totally agree! That is exactly how I feel; they shouldn't be forced on those who choose NOT to see it. Just like a situation where one of our local gas stations were selling VERY nasty mags right at the checkout line. It was actual porn! I wrote them a letter asking them to at least move the rack to the back or somewhere where it is not FORCED on us who dont want to see it. I think everybody just assumes that every single person WANTS to see naked people. They don't bother with those of us who aren't comfortable with it and like the reasons you stated, they are pretty legit reasons why. You're right, breasts are seen as sexual FAR more than bottles. I don't know a single person who ever says "I'd like to see those bottles." I don't know anyone who ever relates them to bottles, only a fucking thing. That's what everything is about.
Originally posted by
Alura Une
I am very against women going topless when every they want. I went through a thing when I was a teen and I thought it would be OK. Men can do it, right? A while later, I realized I was usually uncomfortable when men took their shirts off around
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I am very against women going topless when every they want. I went through a thing when I was a teen and I thought it would be OK. Men can do it, right? A while later, I realized I was usually uncomfortable when men took their shirts off around me. Clothes are good to wear. I think both genders should be sensitive to the feelings of others around them.
I don't think guys should go topless unless they are in a swimming situation. But I'd still rather not see women topless at the beach. Say I support inequality, but it is just a part of our culture. And I think that there is a reason why. To me, breasts aren't just bottles. They are erogenous. Men (and some girls!) like to play with them. People think breasts as sexual things are a new concept, yet, I have seen signs in very old literature that people liked them in a very sexual way. The only time I don't see breasts as a sexual objects is when I'm drawing a model and seeing things as form, shadow. Then I may realize after a while I like what I see...It is hard to not feel this way.
If people want more separated nude friendly beaches, OK. If they want to breastfeed in public--Great! But cover yourself. I do not think that people should force breasts on others. It is rude to do something that you know will offend people. It certainly won't make you look good.
I don't think guys should go topless unless they are in a swimming situation. But I'd still rather not see women topless at the beach. Say I support inequality, but it is just a part of our culture. And I think that there is a reason why. To me, breasts aren't just bottles. They are erogenous. Men (and some girls!) like to play with them. People think breasts as sexual things are a new concept, yet, I have seen signs in very old literature that people liked them in a very sexual way. The only time I don't see breasts as a sexual objects is when I'm drawing a model and seeing things as form, shadow. Then I may realize after a while I like what I see...It is hard to not feel this way.
If people want more separated nude friendly beaches, OK. If they want to breastfeed in public--Great! But cover yourself. I do not think that people should force breasts on others. It is rude to do something that you know will offend people. It certainly won't make you look good.
05/20/2011
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I really like that. I agree with you on this. A big thumbs up Mariah!
Originally posted by
mariah
we should have the right to do it... but it doesn't mean we should... its like we have the right to curse at everyone.. but at times its not right to do it.. but sometimes the right time its ok to do it
05/22/2011
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Couldn't agree more. This is exactly how I feel.
Originally posted by
Carrie Ann
I don't think men or women should be allowed to run around without a shirt in public.
I do think places like designated beaches and your own back yard should be fine, however.
For me it's just a personal thing, though. There ...
I do think places like designated beaches and your own back yard should be fine, however.
For me it's just a personal thing, though. There ...
I don't think men or women should be allowed to run around without a shirt in public.
I do think places like designated beaches and your own back yard should be fine, however.
For me it's just a personal thing, though. There are plenty of men and women I have no desire to see topless. At all.
I do think places like designated beaches and your own back yard should be fine, however.
For me it's just a personal thing, though. There are plenty of men and women I have no desire to see topless. At all.
05/28/2011
In Texas, the law only requires that a person's genitals be covered. Breasts are NOT genitals. Therefore it is perfectly legal for a woman to go topless anywhere that a shirt is not required for everyone. So you do occasionally see topless women here. Especially around Halloween and spring break. But even though it is legal, it is still not socially acceptable for the most part. Some people tried to get the law changed or to have topless women arrested for "creating a public nuisance". There was a huge protest and topless march in downtown Austin, and it is still legal for women to go topless anywhere that men are allowed to.
However, most places of business require any patron to wear a shirt, regardless of sex. You don't see men walking around the mall topless or going to court topless, why would a woman try to do that? So, saying that women should not be allowed to go topless because you don't want to stand next to a topless woman in the checkout line is a bit ridiculous. How many topless men have you encountered in the grocery store?
The only places that you commonly see men topless are at the park, the beach, the pool or their own yards. I don't see why having topless women in those places would be such a big deal.
I truly don't understand why it is so much more acceptable to see graphic violence in the movies or on tv, than to see a woman's nipple. A woman's nipple isn't going to attack you any more than a man's nipple will. They are just not that dangerous. Allow them their freedom.
However, most places of business require any patron to wear a shirt, regardless of sex. You don't see men walking around the mall topless or going to court topless, why would a woman try to do that? So, saying that women should not be allowed to go topless because you don't want to stand next to a topless woman in the checkout line is a bit ridiculous. How many topless men have you encountered in the grocery store?
The only places that you commonly see men topless are at the park, the beach, the pool or their own yards. I don't see why having topless women in those places would be such a big deal.
I truly don't understand why it is so much more acceptable to see graphic violence in the movies or on tv, than to see a woman's nipple. A woman's nipple isn't going to attack you any more than a man's nipple will. They are just not that dangerous. Allow them their freedom.
06/22/2011
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honestly yes we should be allowed to sadly even if we were some would get teh wrong idea and assume they were sluts in the bad way and very easy which is sad that theirs close minded people in america
Originally posted by
Just Jen
Men get to, babies get to, why are breast to be kept covered?
06/22/2011
There's such a thing as appropriateness when it comes to these sorts of things, and in my humble opinion, out in public is not the appropriate place. Is it "unfair" that kids and men can go topless in public? I suppose so, but whether you think it's wrong or not, there is a difference in men and kids going topless and women going topless.
If I feel like being topless (or hell, completely naked), I can do so as much as I like in my own home, and there are other places outside the home that are specifically designed for that, and I can go to one of those places.
If I feel like being topless (or hell, completely naked), I can do so as much as I like in my own home, and there are other places outside the home that are specifically designed for that, and I can go to one of those places.
06/22/2011
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Exactly. There's a time and a place for everything, and -- I don't know if I'm wording this right or not, but I don't think that toplessness should be forced on people who have no say in it, you know? Like if you're at the park with your kid, and a woman's walking around topless, why should you then be forced to deal with the questions that come along with that? You didn't ask for it and had no say in the matter.
Originally posted by
SydVicious
Do I think a person should be able to walk around topless in the mall? No. I do not. I think that there are places that people who want to be naked can go and be in a comfortable environment, and that it wonderful... I just don't wanna see it
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Do I think a person should be able to walk around topless in the mall? No. I do not. I think that there are places that people who want to be naked can go and be in a comfortable environment, and that it wonderful... I just don't wanna see it while im at the park with my kid.
06/22/2011
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Do you really think its an 'America' problem? There are very few places in the world where going topless is permitted. Even those that allow it at the beach prohibit it in 'the public square'.
Originally posted by
SiNn
honestly yes we should be allowed to sadly even if we were some would get teh wrong idea and assume they were sluts in the bad way and very easy which is sad that theirs close minded people in america
I'm no prude - but for women to suggest that the female breast is the same as the male breast are just wrong. Men and women are not the same, gender differences are a fact of life.
06/22/2011
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What I think is really interesting (and very hypocritical) is that the nipple of a woman's breasts is the part that's supposed to be covered. BUUUUT that's the part that men have too! So if it's a nipple thing then they should be covered too. However, the part that (mostly) only women have - the mammary fat - is what we're "allowed" to flaunt or expose! WTF is up with that? Yeah, it's only fair to have a human-wide limitation or allowance and no gender inequality.
Originally posted by
Ivy Wilde
In Texas, the law only requires that a person's genitals be covered. Breasts are NOT genitals. Therefore it is perfectly legal for a woman to go topless anywhere that a shirt is not required for everyone. So you do occasionally see topless
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In Texas, the law only requires that a person's genitals be covered. Breasts are NOT genitals. Therefore it is perfectly legal for a woman to go topless anywhere that a shirt is not required for everyone. So you do occasionally see topless women here. Especially around Halloween and spring break. But even though it is legal, it is still not socially acceptable for the most part. Some people tried to get the law changed or to have topless women arrested for "creating a public nuisance". There was a huge protest and topless march in downtown Austin, and it is still legal for women to go topless anywhere that men are allowed to.
However, most places of business require any patron to wear a shirt, regardless of sex. You don't see men walking around the mall topless or going to court topless, why would a woman try to do that? So, saying that women should not be allowed to go topless because you don't want to stand next to a topless woman in the checkout line is a bit ridiculous. How many topless men have you encountered in the grocery store?
The only places that you commonly see men topless are at the park, the beach, the pool or their own yards. I don't see why having topless women in those places would be such a big deal.
I truly don't understand why it is so much more acceptable to see graphic violence in the movies or on tv, than to see a woman's nipple. A woman's nipple isn't going to attack you any more than a man's nipple will. They are just not that dangerous. Allow them their freedom.
However, most places of business require any patron to wear a shirt, regardless of sex. You don't see men walking around the mall topless or going to court topless, why would a woman try to do that? So, saying that women should not be allowed to go topless because you don't want to stand next to a topless woman in the checkout line is a bit ridiculous. How many topless men have you encountered in the grocery store?
The only places that you commonly see men topless are at the park, the beach, the pool or their own yards. I don't see why having topless women in those places would be such a big deal.
I truly don't understand why it is so much more acceptable to see graphic violence in the movies or on tv, than to see a woman's nipple. A woman's nipple isn't going to attack you any more than a man's nipple will. They are just not that dangerous. Allow them their freedom.
06/22/2011
We both don't see any issue with it, as long as they have to follow the same rules as a man does (ie, certain places you HAVE to wear a top). We know everyone is entitled to their opinion, but what is so wrong with the human body?
Some people will argue that one shouldn't be forced to see a woman (or man) topless walking around in public. There are already so many other things that people are forced to deal with. I, for one, can't stand the smell of cigarettes. But yet I am forced to deal with it in a public setting. Sure, I can move, and I usually do (I know the example isn't the same, but it shows that we are forced to deal with a lot of things that we don't want to deal with).
Some people will argue that one shouldn't be forced to see a woman (or man) topless walking around in public. There are already so many other things that people are forced to deal with. I, for one, can't stand the smell of cigarettes. But yet I am forced to deal with it in a public setting. Sure, I can move, and I usually do (I know the example isn't the same, but it shows that we are forced to deal with a lot of things that we don't want to deal with).
06/23/2011
My opinion may be antiquated or unpopular, but no I don't believe anyone should walk around topless. I don't want to see the guys do it, I don't want to see the ladies do it. Nude beaches, have at it and more power to you...every day public places...no.
If nothing else it's quite distracting and there will always be some perv or jerk making inappropriate comments. I want to use the word decency but I'm afraid the context will be lost.
If nothing else it's quite distracting and there will always be some perv or jerk making inappropriate comments. I want to use the word decency but I'm afraid the context will be lost.
06/25/2011
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Oh, there'll always be guys doing that, even when women wear clothes. Having thought about it a bit more, I kind of agree with your stance on men doing it in public. Well, in public, at a beach or informal social event, sure, but in town? No. That's just because it's more about etiquette, for me. I'd tut and shake my head, but I'd accept it. Why? Why men and not women? Simply because a woman's breasts are, at least when compared to men's breasts, sexual organs. Of course, I don't mean that in the traditional sense, but in a more liberal sense.
Originally posted by
Stormy
My opinion may be antiquated or unpopular, but no I don't believe anyone should walk around topless. I don't want to see the guys do it, I don't want to see the ladies do it. Nude beaches, have at it and more power to you...every day
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My opinion may be antiquated or unpopular, but no I don't believe anyone should walk around topless. I don't want to see the guys do it, I don't want to see the ladies do it. Nude beaches, have at it and more power to you...every day public places...no.
If nothing else it's quite distracting and there will always be some perv or jerk making inappropriate comments. I want to use the word decency but I'm afraid the context will be lost.
If nothing else it's quite distracting and there will always be some perv or jerk making inappropriate comments. I want to use the word decency but I'm afraid the context will be lost.
06/27/2011
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Right, it's kind of like how I don't allow hats or sunglasses to be worn while sitting at the dinner table.
Originally posted by
Errant Venture
Oh, there'll always be guys doing that, even when women wear clothes. Having thought about it a bit more, I kind of agree with your stance on men doing it in public. Well, in public, at a beach or informal social event, sure, but in town? No.
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Oh, there'll always be guys doing that, even when women wear clothes. Having thought about it a bit more, I kind of agree with your stance on men doing it in public. Well, in public, at a beach or informal social event, sure, but in town? No. That's just because it's more about etiquette, for me. I'd tut and shake my head, but I'd accept it. Why? Why men and not women? Simply because a woman's breasts are, at least when compared to men's breasts, sexual organs. Of course, I don't mean that in the traditional sense, but in a more liberal sense.
06/28/2011
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Why aren't breasts for pleasure as well? I mean, even if you're an evolutionist, you could understand that the creation of pleasure is something that keeps us together as a society, and society is something that's kept us Darwinianly fit. Sex for pleasure is a very important part of our continued survival. ... If you want to go pre-industrial.
Originally posted by
Darling Jen
Men's nipples, on average, are just as sensitive as women's on average. So if being erogenous was a factor in obscuring them, men should have to cover theirs too. And only in highly industrialized countries and only for a few centuries have
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Men's nipples, on average, are just as sensitive as women's on average. So if being erogenous was a factor in obscuring them, men should have to cover theirs too. And only in highly industrialized countries and only for a few centuries have the time line for breast feeding been reduced that far. In most of the world and for most of human existence, humans have breast fed their off spring for a minimum of 3 years and up to 6 or 7. (And breasts are their for feeding, any sexual pleasure derived from them are merely a perk biologically.)
(This part isn't part of the argument, but a good and interesting lesson in why breasts are awesome for anyone that has them or loves them.) Why? Because breast milk is awesome. 1. It's free. And most of the world isn't as well off as the U.S. 2. It provides absolute complete nutrition for the young and they can live solely off breast milk for years. So in countries that are impoverished or are going through a famine, they only have to feed the mother in order to nutritionally support her AND her young kids. 3. Doesn't require sterilized water as formula does which also leaves third world countries to relying on what's biologically given to them. 4. During the first few days after birth, the "milk" is more clear and is called "colostrum" which provides newborns with antibodies to help prevent, or fight, infections because newborns aren't producing their own yet and depend on their mother for it.
Breasts are awesome.
Speaking of, this month is Breast Cancer Awareness Month. Is everyone doing their personal monthly checks? And people over the age of 35 or with high risk family history getting their mammograms?
And to the men: It's not just for the ladies! Though only 2% of cases of breast cancer are male, about 300 men die every year for undiagnosed breast cancer. And alcoholics, or those with a history, are at higher risk because cirrhosis of the liver can result in higher levels of estrogen.
This has been a friendly EF public service announncement.
(This part isn't part of the argument, but a good and interesting lesson in why breasts are awesome for anyone that has them or loves them.) Why? Because breast milk is awesome. 1. It's free. And most of the world isn't as well off as the U.S. 2. It provides absolute complete nutrition for the young and they can live solely off breast milk for years. So in countries that are impoverished or are going through a famine, they only have to feed the mother in order to nutritionally support her AND her young kids. 3. Doesn't require sterilized water as formula does which also leaves third world countries to relying on what's biologically given to them. 4. During the first few days after birth, the "milk" is more clear and is called "colostrum" which provides newborns with antibodies to help prevent, or fight, infections because newborns aren't producing their own yet and depend on their mother for it.
Breasts are awesome.
Speaking of, this month is Breast Cancer Awareness Month. Is everyone doing their personal monthly checks? And people over the age of 35 or with high risk family history getting their mammograms?
And to the men: It's not just for the ladies! Though only 2% of cases of breast cancer are male, about 300 men die every year for undiagnosed breast cancer. And alcoholics, or those with a history, are at higher risk because cirrhosis of the liver can result in higher levels of estrogen.
This has been a friendly EF public service announncement.
07/04/2011
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I agree 100% with this post. Let's make it law and move on to the next issue
Originally posted by
Carrie Ann
I don't think men or women should be allowed to run around without a shirt in public.
I do think places like designated beaches and your own back yard should be fine, however.
For me it's just a personal thing, though. There ...
I do think places like designated beaches and your own back yard should be fine, however.
For me it's just a personal thing, though. There ...
I don't think men or women should be allowed to run around without a shirt in public.
I do think places like designated beaches and your own back yard should be fine, however.
For me it's just a personal thing, though. There are plenty of men and women I have no desire to see topless. At all.
I do think places like designated beaches and your own back yard should be fine, however.
For me it's just a personal thing, though. There are plenty of men and women I have no desire to see topless. At all.
07/09/2011