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KinkyKrissy KinkyKrissy
I'm fairly new to the EF community and I recently had my 4th review published. Now that I am not in the mentor program anymore, it's really bothering me to not have the constructive criticism before my reviews are posted. My latest review got almost all "useful" votes and since I can't just ask people why they voted a certain way, it's eating away at me because I want to get better and don't understand why it was voted that way in the first place. Ideas? Suggestions?
07/06/2011
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B8trDude B8trDude
Quote:
Originally posted by KinkyKrissy
I'm fairly new to the EF community and I recently had my 4th review published. Now that I am not in the mentor program anymore, it's really bothering me to not have the constructive criticism before my reviews are posted. My latest review ...
I wouldn't worry about it - I just looked and it seems like a great review. Sometimes people just have different ideas about what a good review is.
07/06/2011
ToyTimeTim ToyTimeTim
There is nothing wrong with a "useful" vote, to me it means you covered all the bases and it was a good read. An "Extremely useful" vote means the person went the extra mile and left me with no questions to be asked.

The good part is you will get better the more you do so try not to let it bother you to much. "Practice makes perfect" and all that.

I am curious though, why is it you can not ask folks what would make the review better? Sure not everyone may have a good answer for you but I'm willing to bet there are a bunch that will give you some great advice. You can always join another class too. Many Mentors will take you in and help polish your skills.
07/06/2011
B8trDude B8trDude
One thing I have noticed is that sometimes "stealth raters" will sometimes show up, give less than the best ratings, not leave any comments, and then disappear forever. On my most recent review, I had four show up and between them, not one had ever reviewed any toys, only two had ever participated in the forum (and have made very few posts), and only one of those had ever posted a discussion. None of them left anything on their profile. Eventually, those that participate here a lot will find your reviews and rate them. The best thing is to just ignore the "stealth raters." Of course, just keep doing the best you can and have fun!
07/06/2011
CuteDee CuteDee
As long as YOU know you did an awesome job, who cares what other people rate you. = )
07/06/2011
KinkyKrissy KinkyKrissy
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Originally posted by ToyTimeTim
There is nothing wrong with a "useful" vote, to me it means you covered all the bases and it was a good read. An "Extremely useful" vote means the person went the extra mile and left me with no questions to be asked.

The ...
I thought if I asked people why they voted a certain way or how I could make the review better might seem a little...whiney/needy/ insecure or something? I'm not really sure how to put it. I guess I just figured a vote was a vote and people wouldn't want me to bother them and ask why they voted a certain way. Maybe I should do it. I would be very interested to know. I have SO much to learn about reviewing. The more I think about it, asking someone why they voted a certain way and how to improve upon it is like asking a teacher about a grade on a paper and how you can do better on the next one.

I didn't know mentors will take you in after you graduate! I love the one on one help so doing that again would be great

Thank you so much!
07/06/2011
KinkyKrissy KinkyKrissy
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Originally posted by B8trDude
One thing I have noticed is that sometimes "stealth raters" will sometimes show up, give less than the best ratings, not leave any comments, and then disappear forever. On my most recent review, I had four show up and between them, not one ...
That is terrible! I am so sorry that happened to you. I wish they had some way of blocking or filtering out accounts like that. By the way, thank you for reading and voting on my review, it means a lot

@CuteDee I guess because I'm still so new I get more nervous about it. Thank you for your advice
07/06/2011
Waterfall Waterfall
Getting a useful vote on a review is a good thing, so I wouldn't worry about it If you feel like you want some extra tips and that you are not very comfortable writing reviews yet, then even though you are Advanced you can still get a second mentor. I know after my first mentor and after I worked on a couple reviews on my own, I got another mentor and it was helpful.
07/06/2011
Vaccinium Vaccinium
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Originally posted by B8trDude
One thing I have noticed is that sometimes "stealth raters" will sometimes show up, give less than the best ratings, not leave any comments, and then disappear forever. On my most recent review, I had four show up and between them, not one ...
I get those too. I don't get especially perturbed by them, but it is rather curious.
07/06/2011
ToyTimeTim ToyTimeTim
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Originally posted by KinkyKrissy
I thought if I asked people why they voted a certain way or how I could make the review better might seem a little...whiney/needy/ insecure or something? I'm not really sure how to put it. I guess I just figured a vote was a vote and people ...
No problem. I am happy to help out when I can, I was there once not so long ago.
07/06/2011
B8trDude B8trDude
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Originally posted by KinkyKrissy
That is terrible! I am so sorry that happened to you. I wish they had some way of blocking or filtering out accounts like that. By the way, thank you for reading and voting on my review, it means a lot

@CuteDee I guess because I'm ...
Thanks, I'm not worried though. There are a lot of great people here and it doesn't bother me if I get hit by "stealth raters" every now and then. There are plenty of great people here who show up and give you good feedback on your reviews. I'm glad you posted here because I looked up your review - it was great!
07/06/2011
newfoundlust newfoundlust
We always post a note if we rate a review. You reviews look good. Don't worry about it.
07/06/2011
Acorn Acorn
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Originally posted by B8trDude
One thing I have noticed is that sometimes "stealth raters" will sometimes show up, give less than the best ratings, not leave any comments, and then disappear forever. On my most recent review, I had four show up and between them, not one ...
This is happening to me lately. It annoys me a little because I don't have very many reviews published so every "useful" vote pushes my rating down. I don't mind "useful" votes, I just don't like it when people vote without reading the review.

I figure it's not really a big deal because as I write more reviews, the few "stealth votes" won't really have much impact any more.
07/07/2011
married with children married with children
I would ask for ways to make your review better in the comment section of your review. You can also message the people and ask them what they thought your review was missing.
07/07/2011
js250 js250
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Originally posted by KinkyKrissy
I'm fairly new to the EF community and I recently had my 4th review published. Now that I am not in the mentor program anymore, it's really bothering me to not have the constructive criticism before my reviews are posted. My latest review ...
Remember to take it all with a grain of salt. It was a good review. Not everyone finds the review information to be useful to them and the purpose they have for the product. For example: I read a review on one of the bullets, it was a good review and had some useful information. But it had no references to using it a an accessory to men's masturbators or cock rings so it was not very useful to me. You might read the review and find that it covered everything you were curious about with that product.

Just write an honest and factual review. As long as you do your best, there is nothing to worry about. You can always get another mentor, can't you?
07/07/2011
Petite Valentine Petite Valentine
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Originally posted by js250
Remember to take it all with a grain of salt. It was a good review. Not everyone finds the review information to be useful to them and the purpose they have for the product. For example: I read a review on one of the bullets, it was a good review and ...
"But it had no references to using it a an accessory to men's masturbators or cock rings so it was not very useful to me."

Out of curiosity, did you vote on the review, and if so, did you leave a note for the reviewer?

I've definitely come across reviews that were not useful to me, but I try to take into account their overall usefulness before clicking the vote button. I also always try to leave a comment on anything I rate below "useful" so that the reviewer understands why I voted that way. The only exception is if another commenter has already addressed the issue(s), or if the reasoning is painfully obvious.
07/07/2011
Kindred Kindred
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Originally posted by Acorn
This is happening to me lately. It annoys me a little because I don't have very many reviews published so every "useful" vote pushes my rating down. I don't mind "useful" votes, I just don't like it when people vote ...
Just an FYI, a "Useful" vote is considered the standard. It in no way pushes your rating down.
07/07/2011
Kindred Kindred
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Originally posted by KinkyKrissy
I thought if I asked people why they voted a certain way or how I could make the review better might seem a little...whiney/needy/ insecure or something? I'm not really sure how to put it. I guess I just figured a vote was a vote and people ...
You are certainly free to message people for feedback and why the gave you a particular vote. However, don't necessarily expect to get responses. You might have better success if you message higher ranked reviewers as they are probably more likely to respond.
07/07/2011
Diabolical Kitty Diabolical Kitty
You're more than welcome to ask. I would always be willing to tell you why I rated something a certain way.
07/07/2011
P'Gell P'Gell
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Originally posted by js250
Remember to take it all with a grain of salt. It was a good review. Not everyone finds the review information to be useful to them and the purpose they have for the product. For example: I read a review on one of the bullets, it was a good review and ...
js said:"I read a review on one of the bullets, it was a good review and had some useful information. But it had no references to using it a an accessory to men's masturbators or cock rings so it was not very useful to me."

The thing is, if the reviewer doesn't use a bullet this way (I know I don't) then their information wouldn't be all that useful, they'd just be guessing. I remember when I started reviewing, I wondered if I should include specific info about using certain toys with a harness, (I don't use harnesses) and I was told I could mention that it was harness usable, but not to elaborate if it wasn't something I used the toy for.

Common uses for toys need to be mentioned, for instance, not mentioning penetration with a dildo made for this purpose is a problem for a reviewer (and I've seen it) but although uses outside the "norm" can and do add to a review, they are not always necessary, especially if they are specialized uses and not all users use the toy in this way.
07/07/2011
P'Gell P'Gell
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Originally posted by B8trDude
One thing I have noticed is that sometimes "stealth raters" will sometimes show up, give less than the best ratings, not leave any comments, and then disappear forever. On my most recent review, I had four show up and between them, not one ...
Dude, in my experience, some, but not all, of these "stealth" raters are reviewer with "secret identities" who make up a separate profile to downvote people who may have not voted all their reviews "Extremely Useful." These people also often will vote on their OTHER personae reviews, always voting "Extremely Useful." ARGUGHGHGHH!

I've not only seen this, but helped catch a few! IMO, this is a most grievous and disingenuous action, but it seems to happen at times, and its one of my least favorite things about the site. IMO, anyone who is caught with two identities should be banned from reviewing on the site, but that's just my opinion.
07/07/2011
Petite Valentine Petite Valentine
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Originally posted by P'Gell
Dude, in my experience, some, but not all, of these "stealth" raters are reviewer with "secret identities" who make up a separate profile to downvote people who may have not voted all their reviews "Extremely Useful." ...
"I've not only seen this, but helped catch a few! IMO, this is a most grievous and disingenuous action, but it seems to happen at times, and its one of my least favorite things about the site. IMO, anyone who is caught with two identities should be banned from reviewing on the site, but that's just my opinion."

So are you saying people have been caught doing this and were still allowed to continue reviewing? To err is human, to forgive divine and all that, but...
07/07/2011
P'Gell P'Gell
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Originally posted by Petite Valentine
"I've not only seen this, but helped catch a few! IMO, this is a most grievous and disingenuous action, but it seems to happen at times, and its one of my least favorite things about the site. IMO, anyone who is caught with two identities ...
I'm not part of the administration, just a reviewer (who used to Moderate an other large site, so I see the tricks people use) so I'm not sure if all are allowed continued to review. I know of at least one or two who have, though.
07/07/2011
KinkyKrissy KinkyKrissy
First, thanks again everyone for the wonderful advice and comments!
As for those stealth reviewers, it sucks that they are still allowed to review/vote/go about their business. It's too bad there aren't rules or stricter rules about this sort of thing since it seems to happen to quite a few people and although it isn't a huge deal to everyone, in the long run it is a pain, especially if they really gang up on certain people.
07/07/2011
Rossie Rossie
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Originally posted by B8trDude
One thing I have noticed is that sometimes "stealth raters" will sometimes show up, give less than the best ratings, not leave any comments, and then disappear forever. On my most recent review, I had four show up and between them, not one ...
Sorry to hear that these "stealth raters" are messing up your review ratings. I also notice there's a big increase on new reviewers that show very little to nothing on their profile. Even though I have not been affected by these reviewers, their hidden identity makes me uncomfortable.
07/09/2011
KnK KnK
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Originally posted by B8trDude
One thing I have noticed is that sometimes "stealth raters" will sometimes show up, give less than the best ratings, not leave any comments, and then disappear forever. On my most recent review, I had four show up and between them, not one ...
Ive been getting those. It usually doesn't bother me, and I just roll my eyes, but there are certain stealthers that seem to follow my reviews. it made me wonder if I had somehow irritated someone on EF.
07/11/2011
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