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WAY TO BIG FOR ME

Love Buzz Love Buzz
As far as proving age & identity etc any underage person could join up and become a reviewer without ever doing ANYTHING in order to prove that they are of legal age (18/21 whichever.)

They wouldn't even need to make a purchase. I don't know what the legalities are regarding underage purchases of toys, or sending toys to underage people, But in terms of the porn club - that is scary kind of illegal.

Even if there are clauses in the TOS etc when you sign up, I'm sure there are people who would just ignore them, more importantly a judge could ignore that by joining you are agreeing you are of legal age, & find that the responsibility lies with EF.

I love this place and really would hate for someone to put everyone's investment in this community at risk.
12/12/2010
Love Buzz Love Buzz
Quote:
Originally posted by Viktor Vysheslav Malkin
Come now, was that entirely called for?

Really, I do not think this is like you, your above this kind of stuff. There is no need to be blatantly mean. If you have a concern it is best to just PM Kristi, she is wonderful, she will handle it. ...
I've actually just written to Mariah and asked if she would like me to be her mentor to help her establish some credibility within the community by writing some reviews. I'm not saying she needs to prove anything to anyone, but I'm guessing her response will show whether or not she is truly interested in participating in the EF community.

Possibly some other, more senior members will make similar offers, I'm not sure. But my concern that what we have could have all that we have as a community put at peril due to underage members still remains, however I think it is an issue seperate from this thread.
12/12/2010
Alicia Alicia
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Originally posted by cherryredhead88
I am indeed pmsing lol.

Like I said above, I'm really not trying to be malicious here.

I have already decided not to read these threads anymore, and I already stated what else I have to say.

No offense taken! It is pretty ...
Honestly, if you're not trying to then I agree that you need to just stop responding to posts that make you upset like this, because you're attempts to not be malicious are apparently not working. It's not any contributors job to police the other ones or attack them.
12/12/2010
gone77 gone77
Hello, guys:

OK, so...this is not how I wanted to spend my Sunday off from work, but I feel this needs to be addressed sooner rather than later.

1. The flags have been addressed and the appropriate people have been contacted. Please refrain from flagging any more posts (unless new unacceptable posts pop up after I've posted this).

2. The question of underage contributors has been addressed here: link If you have any questions about my post there, do not hesitate to e-mail me at kristi@edenfantasys.co m

3. While I don't recommend that people continue to post on this thread, if you choose to do so please behave respectfully.

Thank you.
12/12/2010
mrs.mckrakn mrs.mckrakn
interesting how this turned into an age forum
12/12/2010
Illusional Illusional
Sorry you had to work Kristi.
12/12/2010
Love Buzz Love Buzz
I understand that this post is pretty much closed and I apologise in advance for posting to it now that it has been put to bed so to speak. But as I'm not planning on being malicious or insulting anyone I hope you will all be able to forgive me.

The original post on this thread feels like spam. It isn't asking a question put in a context that can be answered. Something that its author has done a few times of late, making forum posts that lack weight, context and content. It is also my observation that this member of the community has thus far only contributed to the community by participating in such posts.

If I had been one of the first people to come across this thread I too may have thrown in a snarky remark and called it out as spamming./point farming. Because it wasn't even a proper question.

I can't say that Cherry did the right thing by continuing to engage with the threads founder, she could've just flagged it and that's it. Bit the thing is she...like the rest of us is Human. She has emotions as well as the right to express them. She may not have used the 'right' words (In a politically correct way) but a lot of her words echoed feelings that I, and other members of the community were feeling... upset, angered, worried, you know generally negative feelings

She even admitted she was pms'ing in the thread and much more snarlier than normal. She also initially explained that she was not trying to be malicious with her original comments.

Cherry is one of the most giving members of the community that I've personally met. She's written a fair few reviews in her time here, video reviews too, she's participated in community discussions and groups as well as being an active member on the forums.

To me she has been a great friend as well as a priceless editor and mentor. This girl has helped turn my drastic ability to create run on sentences that form into one huge long conglomerate of mess into much easier to read and comprehend passages of text. She's helped to fix my millions of typos, and sorted out my garbage by actually adding some punctuation to it. All of this she has done out of kindness and commitment to the community as a whole.

I personally feel bad that I didn't stick up for her in the first place and am sad over the number of flags that were raised when she was trying to explain herself and that her intention wasn't to be hurtful despite the fact she may have appeared to be rude. Im sad that she got so many flags when the initial, non sensical, spam like post didn't get a single one. Nor did some of the posts that seem to be written with the purpose of enraging Cherry further. I'm even more sad that I didnt speak up because I was afraid of getting banned. I thought America was incredibly proud of your freedom to speech and yet I'm already worried about this post getting flagged.

If this post offends you I apologise,it isn't written in order to inflame this debate. I just wanted to publicly stand up in support of cherry. Im not saying what she did was 100% ok, but it certainly is understandable and she truly is a member of this community in every possible way.

If you wish to respond to my post I'd ask you to rather message me on site or via email (mylovesbuzz on gmaill) as I really would hate for this thread to return to being a problem for Kristi.

thanks
12/13/2010
Shellz31 Shellz31
Quote:
Originally posted by Love Buzz
I understand that this post is pretty much closed and I apologise in advance for posting to it now that it has been put to bed so to speak. But as I'm not planning on being malicious or insulting anyone I hope you will all be able to forgive ...
I AGREE!!!

As most of us are females too, we often know how hormones rage at certain times (I know I TOTALLY understand) and I think the mature thing to do is to give more leniency - especially when it's out of character for someone to be that way.

We ya Cherry!
12/13/2010
Viktor Vysheslav Malkin Viktor Vysheslav Malkin
Quote:
Originally posted by Love Buzz
I understand that this post is pretty much closed and I apologise in advance for posting to it now that it has been put to bed so to speak. But as I'm not planning on being malicious or insulting anyone I hope you will all be able to forgive ...
I never once seen where Cherry was being attacked. Sure she told me in a PM that she felt attacked by what I said. I said nothing that could have been construed as an attack. So who are you sticking up to in her defense? I don't see any malicious attacks on her. Sure people can be over zealous with the flag system. I think once something is flagged then no more is needed, because it is going to get the same amount of attention.

So since I disagreed with her methods I am attacking her?

I hate to even bring it up or even re-hash this thread but it seems that I kinda have to.
12/13/2010
Illusional Illusional
I'd rather just leave it be. I kind of agree but I would hate to get banned... so I'll just limit my voice and opinion.
12/13/2010
Love Buzz Love Buzz
Quote:
Originally posted by Viktor Vysheslav Malkin
I never once seen where Cherry was being attacked. Sure she told me in a PM that she felt attacked by what I said. I said nothing that could have been construed as an attack. So who are you sticking up to in her defense? I don't see any ...
Im not the best at expressing myself at times, I'm certainly not saying that you attacked her, and after re-reading the entire thread I guess my post is a bit out of order possibly. I was more trying to defend her against the number of flags on a couple of her posts (whlst other posts weren't flagged) as well as an all round feeling of her being attacked - my personal feeling. I'm certainly not accusing you or anyone else of attacking her. I was even going to quote part of your post as you pointed out that it was unlike her to act this way.

It's more that I felt like I didn't say EVERYTHING I was feeling over the issue to start with and I just wanted to express what I'd left unsaid.

My honest response to your post on the matter is that it was very well said, in an adult and very poised way. If I could've put it quite as well I may have even said something similar.

I just felt that this thread turned into a sense of bagging cherry when there was someone else being out of order by starting the thread as well as trying to incite more retaliation.

This was certainly not a passive aggressive display by me, just me wanting to get my feelings off my chest. If that makes sense? Im often accused of picking on someone or upsetting them when its not my intention, And I apologise if this is such a case.
12/13/2010
Viktor Vysheslav Malkin Viktor Vysheslav Malkin
Quote:
Originally posted by Love Buzz
Im not the best at expressing myself at times, I'm certainly not saying that you attacked her, and after re-reading the entire thread I guess my post is a bit out of order possibly. I was more trying to defend her against the number of flags on a ...
Thanks for clarifying, and I respect the fact that you are supporting a friend through a tough time, that is very admirable. Its a tough situation to be in and around. My hope is that, everyone comes back, has fun, and enjoys themselves. Hope something positive can come out of something that has thus far been negative.

I do not think anyone should be worried about stating their opinion. The only time Eden really bans someone is if they are abusing the system or a repeat offender of a certain activity.
12/14/2010
Love Buzz Love Buzz
thanks Viktor,

Im sorry if it sounded like it was directed at you, especially after all the help you've given me. It wasnt an attack on anyone, nor really directed at someone. It was just something I wanted to express (I think Ive got teary, sappy PMS lol) maybe I could've done it elsewhere, but its certainly not an attack on anyone, just some support for someone and I didnt want to start a new thread to re hash everything.
12/14/2010
mariah mariah
haha i am not hurt by what you guys are saying i mean..this is the internet and i been on the internet since i was 12. and i know how the internet works its full of mean and cruel people.. i haven't been on in days because i did not come here to be told that i'm not 18. i came here for help to learn about my sexual well being.. so i decided to leave because if learning about sex is this hard. this.. i oviously don't need to be here.. i am not a virgin and i know enough.. but all i wanted was simple help for the most advanced subjects that my fellow 18 year olds have no idea about.. so i just left because again i didn't come here to start drama. but i oviously did... i'm sorry i am 18.. and i will forever be.. intill next year.. no i;m not some one who was before baned and then came back.. but picture is really me.. and i have been honest this whole time..
12/15/2010
J's Alley J's Alley
Nice guys, really nice. Mariah, I sincerely hope you don't decide to leave. Our forums aren't always like this, we are usually very nice to new people...I am shocked at what I am reading here; it is mean and was meant to be hurtful and you certainly don't deserve that just because you're curious.
12/15/2010
Emma (Girl With Fire) Emma (Girl With Fire)
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Originally posted by Love Buzz
I understand that this post is pretty much closed and I apologise in advance for posting to it now that it has been put to bed so to speak. But as I'm not planning on being malicious or insulting anyone I hope you will all be able to forgive ...
It is awesome that you DID stick up for her. My question about pmsing was an honest one as her behavior did seem out of character. I understand both your point of view and Mariahs. She is young and inexperienced, and does that not also require a bit of leniency as she learns the ins and outs of this particular forum? You should not have to worry about being flagged, none of us should unless we are being truly disrespectful of either people or policy. I have been flagged myself and I KNOW how disconcerting it can be. I hope this does not happen to you.
12/15/2010
Emily! Emily!
What the hell.


Edit: This was to a post that has been removed.
12/15/2010
cherryredhead88 cherryredhead88
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Originally posted by J's Alley
Nice guys, really nice. Mariah, I sincerely hope you don't decide to leave. Our forums aren't always like this, we are usually very nice to new people...I am shocked at what I am reading here; it is mean and was meant to be hurtful and you ...
Excuse me, but this thread has been taken care of already and I do not feel like you need to blatantly attack me over again. I hope you read Kristi's post with the rest of them which stated that the posts don't need to be flagged anymore, and that the situation has been dealt with.

My post was NOT meant to be hurtful as I stated already. You shouldn't assume, it makes an ass out of u and me.

Also, I am fine with you being here mariah, my whole situation was of fear that you weren't 18. It has been taken care of, I am over it. So the rest of you know I was indeed in a mood as I am dealing with some personal things that I do not care to share with you. Let's just say be glad you aren't dealing with them.

Also, mariah, it would indeed help if your posts had more substance to them versus a simple sentence. There are plenty of threads around with information regarding the same topics all over the forum.

I thought Eden was a great community for me to be in as well, I have contributed very positively and will continue to do so, but I am upset at the lack of support/understanding from my side. I know I was out of place and I admitted it and apologized for it several times on here already, but where is the open mindedness now?

Why is it that I am being attacked over someone who hasn't even contributed to the community outside of one sentence threads? I feel like Eden is supposed to be supportive, and Kristi already dealt with this, so I do not feel the need for people to continue attacking me. I am still upset that people continued on after I said I was done with this.
12/15/2010
Viktor Vysheslav Malkin Viktor Vysheslav Malkin
Quote:
Originally posted by cherryredhead88
Excuse me, but this thread has been taken care of already and I do not feel like you need to blatantly attack me over again. I hope you read Kristi's post with the rest of them which stated that the posts don't need to be flagged anymore, and ...
Okay again, no one, and certainly not me, is attacking you. I do not even think J was attacking you.

This is the last time I am going to post in this thread about this subject. Just because I am friends with someone I am not going to blindly follow them, and I certainly will not join in and throw a stone. Everything I said in my initial post was very positive and kind.

I've learned the hard way before, not everyone is going to agree with me, but when they disagree it doesn't mean its an attack. I hope you do not make the same mistake as I did.

So your not being attacked, and it doesn't matter if someone hasn't contributed as much as you, its not right to just insult someone. Who knows, maybe Mariah will be a 9.9 rated reviewer who goes on to win Contributor of the year?

It doesn't matter if someone on EF is voted Contributor of the year, and written 1000 reviews, helped 19,900 members. they are just as important as Mariah or anyone else in this community (Including you!). We are all equal, as far as I am concerned.
12/15/2010
DeliciousSurprise DeliciousSurprise
Quote:
Originally posted by Viktor Vysheslav Malkin
Okay again, no one, and certainly not me, is attacking you. I do not even think J was attacking you.

This is the last time I am going to post in this thread about this subject. Just because I am friends with someone I am not going to blindly ...
I just want to throw an amen in here in response to this post.

Edited to add: I also wanted to say that we ALL started off here with 0.0 rankings. We ALL started off here not knowing the protocol for this forum. We ALL learn at our own pace and not ALL of us learn the same way--some of us learn by making a lot of mistakes.
12/15/2010
mariah mariah
i honeslty did nuthing wrong here. at all. i do belive i was being attacked tho
12/16/2010
mariah mariah
and i did nuthing to cherry at all i could have... but i didn't
12/16/2010
J's Alley J's Alley
Quote:
Originally posted by Viktor Vysheslav Malkin
Okay again, no one, and certainly not me, is attacking you. I do not even think J was attacking you.

This is the last time I am going to post in this thread about this subject. Just because I am friends with someone I am not going to blindly ...
I totally am wishing there was a like button here This hit the nail on the head. I wasn't attacking anyone at all...it was generalized. If I was attacking anyone they would know it. I don't do the whole passive aggressive thing. Cherry it wasn't directed at you, I am really sorry you took it that way.
12/16/2010
cherryredhead88 cherryredhead88
Quote:
Originally posted by Viktor Vysheslav Malkin
Okay again, no one, and certainly not me, is attacking you. I do not even think J was attacking you.

This is the last time I am going to post in this thread about this subject. Just because I am friends with someone I am not going to blindly ...
I guess the last part of my last post came off wrong, it wasn't a "I'm better than her thing". It was more like, I am an active part of the community on a regular basis and I feel like people know me more, and should know that it was a mistake and completely out of my character.

My point is she has really only started these types of threads, and I'm not saying she needs to this or that, I know we all started out at 0 but I have been working my ass off to get where I am now and I feel like no one has been appreciating it for a long time.

I am going to ignore this thread now because all it is doing is making me not want to be here more and more.

I'm taking a break for a while. Have a happy holidays everyone
12/16/2010
Amanda Owens Amanda Owens
Quote:
Originally posted by mariah
help? what do i do?
just take your time with it and get comfortable with it. and a lot of lube will help
01/05/2011
Forever17 Forever17
love this
11/29/2011
lost686girl lost686girl
save it for when you're more experienced with something small.
11/29/2011
brevado brevado
Is it really that strong?
05/29/2012
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