#EdenCooks - Kefir and Oladi Pancakes - Monday March 18, at 8pm EST!

Antipova Antipova
As we're rounding the corner into spring, and fresh fruits and berries start to crop up, is there a better way to enjoy them than on a bed of yogurt or cream fraiche? How about blended into a smoothie, or on a bed of kefir?

What is kefir? It's a lot like yogurt of cream fraiche, but instead of being fermented only by bacteria, it is created by culturing milk with both bacteria and yeast. This means it can even be digested by people who are lactose intolerant, and it's also really tasty. And once you have a culture going yourself, you can make pancakes every morning with the leftovers---if you don't drink it all, of course!



Eden Cooks is a cooking club for any interested members of the Eden community. We will meet on the forum to discuss everything from tips and pointers for less well-equipped kitchens, explanations of cooking terms, and important techniques. There will be a featured recipe each meeting, with pictures taken as I prepare it for you. I will cover some ingredient substitutions to make each recipe more friendly to people with dietary restrictions.


During the meeting, five $10 gift cards to EF will be awarded to the winners of a trivia contest from information that I will provide during the meeting, and to those who share fermenting and flavoring ideas of their own.



In this meeting, we'll cover the steps to kefir-making in depth and with pictures, including where to get grains, and we will also discuss culturing yogurt and buttermilk. And after the fermentation, there will be a tutorial for oladi, the traditional thick Slavic/Russian pancake, which is often made with kefir. I can't wait to share this with you, because home fermentation can be both delicious and a really awesome science class that you're learning from all the time.

Join us in this very thread at 8pm EST and let's eat in our lab coats!
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Quote:
Originally posted by Antipova
As we're rounding the corner into spring, and fresh fruits and berries start to crop up, is there a better way to enjoy them than on a bed of yogurt or cream fraiche? How about blended into a smoothie, or on a bed of kefir?

What is kefir? ... More
Love the last meeting, can't wait!
03/12/2013
Kristi :) Kristi :)
Really excited!!! I have seen kefir drinks but I have never had it. Also can't wait for the culturing discussion!!! I have made butter by breaking heavy cream a couple times. But recently I read that the proper way to make butter is with yogurt and cream cultured, then it makes buttermilk and butter. I have no idea. So!!! I can't wait to hear because I wanna try to make it!!
03/15/2013
Wicked Wahine Wicked Wahine
I haven't tackled Kefir, but I started fermenting a few months ago. I make yogurt, pickles, sauerkraut, kimchi, basically anything I can think of trying to ferment, I do. I have some excellent books on the subject & can't wait until I have fresh produce from my garden to experiment with! One really great thing about living alone is I can leave as many bubbling crocks of goodness anywhere I want!

Kristi, a lot of the stuff they sell in the stores as Kefir is good & tastes like liquidy yogurt. But when you make it yourself it's fizzy! I don't know why the common store brands aren't fizzy, unless some of the cultures died?

Anyway, butter can be cultured or not, depending on your preference. You can probably find the cultured butter, (usually European brands), in the grocery store near the Land-O-Lakes, which is not cultured. I have had a hard time getting used to the taste, but I imagine homemade would be better.

I've been intimidated about keeping grains alive & am interested to learn from Antipova, especially about the pancakes! Hope I don't forget to come, last time was so much fun!
03/15/2013
Kristi :) Kristi :)
You make kimchi?? I am SOOO coming over!!

Fizzy yogurt sounds good. If there is live cultures, then that means probiotics and I can skip the overpriced greek yogurt for the day. Fizzy yogurt sounds even better!

I have had European butter, some of it tastes more like cheese to me. Now I'm wondering, that's probably why I thought that. Some even keep it by the cheese and have wondered if the butter picked up cheesiness from the cheese. LOL!! Now I know! X-)

I'm all excited to learn! The last bread was yummy and fun to make, and can't wait for the pancakes.
03/15/2013
Wicked Wahine Wicked Wahine
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Originally posted by Kristi :)
You make kimchi?? I am SOOO coming over!!

Fizzy yogurt sounds good. If there is live cultures, then that means probiotics and I can skip the overpriced greek yogurt for the day. Fizzy yogurt sounds even better!

I have had European ... More
I don't know if you'd like the kimchi I made because I can't handle anything that is spicy hot. So mine doesn't have that traditional, takes-a-bite-back character.

If you like Greek yogurt, you're going to love being able to make your own for pennies! All you have to do it strain the yogurt! If you strain it a lot, you get yogurt cheese! The best is having control over the strength of the cultures & thus how tangy it is, plus you can choose any flavor or combo of flavors you want!

******warning, the following may be TMI for some people, don't read if you are squeamish!******

(I even used some plain, unsweetened yogurt that got a little too strong for my tastes as a topical treatment for a hormonal yeast infection that was just starting...and it worked!!! I know if you don't want the mess, you can insert a probiotic pill every night as needed to keep everything balanced. Funny, the mess was no problem & it was so soothing & got rid of the itch immediately. TMI? Sorry if that grossed anyone out. BTW, since Kefir has yeast in it, DON"T use it as I described, just sayin'.)
03/16/2013
Kristi :) Kristi :)
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Originally posted by Wicked Wahine
I don't know if you'd like the kimchi I made because I can't handle anything that is spicy hot. So mine doesn't have that traditional, takes-a-bite-back character.

If you like Greek yogurt, you're going to love being able ... More
To me, kimchi isn't spicy. X-) I guess one can say that I can tolerate lots of heat. I have looked up how to make it myself, but I can't find the ingredients to do it. Let me state that correctly, I can’t find them in Asian market because I cannot read. Glad you can make your own!!! It’s so expensive to buy.

That’s really good news about the Greek yogurt. I spend $1 a day on Chobani. Been doing this for two years and now that I think about it, that’s a lot of money! Honestly, might not hurt for me to get a yogurt maker appliance if I can make yogurt myself.

******ALSO A WARNING TO THE SQUEAMISH! ******
I don’t know about yeast infections, but for BV that works as well. For PH imbalances, you can take chlorophyll or use lemon juice internally. Soap throws my PH balance off, but I hear yeast infections can do that as well.
03/16/2013
SassySam SassySam
I love yogurt and smoothies, I'll have to try kefir.
03/16/2013
Antipova Antipova
I hope everyone's looking forward to the meeting tonight!
03/18/2013
Wicked Wahine Wicked Wahine
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Originally posted by Antipova
I hope everyone's looking forward to the meeting tonight!
Are you kidding? I could easily take this thread over just with Kristi & me! I had so much fun last time & I hope this won't be as frenetic as the St Paddy's Day event!

I'm even gonna go grocery shopping now so I don't miss this. Hope I don't forget!
03/18/2013
Antipova Antipova
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Originally posted by Wicked Wahine
Are you kidding? I could easily take this thread over just with Kristi & me! I had so much fun last time & I hope this won't be as frenetic as the St Paddy's Day event!

I'm even gonna go grocery shopping now so I don't ... More
Oh, Eden parties are always a hoot and so fast! We should all have lots to learn from each other this meeting, I think!
03/18/2013
surreptitious surreptitious
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Originally posted by Antipova
I hope everyone's looking forward to the meeting tonight!
I know that I am! I know that I have a commitment this evening, but I'm hoping that I make it back in time because I really like learning new things about cooking.
03/18/2013
Antipova Antipova
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I know that I am! I know that I have a commitment this evening, but I'm hoping that I make it back in time because I really like learning new things about cooking.
I hope you make it too!
03/18/2013
Antipova Antipova
Just two hours left!
03/18/2013
Wicked Wahine Wicked Wahine
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Originally posted by Antipova
Just two hours left!
Is this on hold because Stormy's leaving?
03/18/2013
Antipova Antipova
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Originally posted by Wicked Wahine
Is this on hold because Stormy's leaving?
I think the meeting can go on if people still show up...

At least, nobody told me to cancel, so I'm still good to go in 30 minutes if everyone else is.
03/18/2013
Wicked Wahine Wicked Wahine
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Originally posted by Antipova
I think the meeting can go on if people still show up...

At least, nobody told me to cancel, so I'm still good to go in 30 minutes if everyone else is.
great!

I'm still in shock over the announcement!

But I'll be here!
03/18/2013
Antipova Antipova
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Originally posted by Wicked Wahine
great!

I'm still in shock over the announcement!

But I'll be here!
Me too! It is news to me (I just saw the forum post).

I've talked to Administration to see whether the meeting should continue, but until I hear back I will be here and ready to share.
03/18/2013
surreptitious surreptitious
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Originally posted by Antipova
Me too! It is news to me (I just saw the forum post).

I've talked to Administration to see whether the meeting should continue, but until I hear back I will be here and ready to share.
I'm just catching up on the shocking news, but I am here and ready to learn about kefir-making.
03/18/2013
Wicked Wahine Wicked Wahine
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I'm just catching up on the shocking news, but I am here and ready to learn about kefir-making.
Hello, nice to see you here! I remember our bra discussion
03/18/2013
Antipova Antipova
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Originally posted by surreptitious
I'm just catching up on the shocking news, but I am here and ready to learn about kefir-making.
Welcome!
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Hello early birds.

While folks show up, I guess let's focus on having a meeting that's pretty drama free... so how about the weather? How far along has spring come where you live? Still snow? Planting seeds in the ground yet, or starting them inside?
03/18/2013
Wicked Wahine Wicked Wahine
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Originally posted by Antipova
Welcome!
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Hello early birds.

While folks show up, I guess let's focus on having a meeting that's pretty drama free... so how about the weather? How far along has spring come where you live? Still snow? Planting seeds in the ... More
I'm DYING to plant some seeds outside instead of all these little pots everywhere! I have tiny plants everywhere under lights!
03/18/2013
surreptitious surreptitious
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Hello, nice to see you here! I remember our bra discussion
Nice to see you as well! I've been drooling over the new Coquette pieces and cursing my breasts since I laid eyes on them. Hopefully this will go a titchy bit slower than the St Pat's party so that you and I can actually talk - I think that my response to your hello there got lost in the replies!

I hear that you got your prize package today! Mine just came in the mail as well. Are you as excited as I am?
03/18/2013
Antipova Antipova
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I'm DYING to plant some seeds outside instead of all these little pots everywhere! I have tiny plants everywhere under lights!
Ooh, what are you growing? I started my okra and cabbage seeds last week....

And what did you two get as prizes?
03/18/2013
surreptitious surreptitious
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Originally posted by Antipova
Welcome!
[[
Hello early birds.

While folks show up, I guess let's focus on having a meeting that's pretty drama free... so how about the weather? How far along has spring come where you live? Still snow? Planting seeds in the ... More
I came down to Florida from Canada in February, and I'm actually already feeling that the weather is far too warm for my tastes. I did like it a lot when I heard that it was minus thirty a few weeks back in the city where I'd have been living if I hadn't graduated last year, but I am too pale to appreciate this shiny sun.

I am going to have to move back to Canada soon so that I can work again, otherwise I'd have begun planting. I know that my significant other would be terrible at caring for a garden without me, though, so it would not be worth it to plant one here. Since I live on a farm at home, though, I can say for certain that we'll have one there. =)
03/18/2013
Kristi :) Kristi :)
Hello everybody! This is Kristi's husband.
03/18/2013
Antipova Antipova
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Originally posted by surreptitious
I came down to Florida from Canada in February, and I'm actually already feeling that the weather is far too warm for my tastes. I did like it a lot when I heard that it was minus thirty a few weeks back in the city where I'd have been living ... More
[[Ooh, how awesome is that? And I hope you're having a good time with your sig. other! And congratulations on graduating, too.
03/18/2013
Wicked Wahine Wicked Wahine
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Originally posted by Kristi :)
Hello everybody! This is Kristi's husband.
We haven't met before, but I just love your wife!
03/18/2013
bog bog
Hey, an event up my alley!

I culture kefir, sourdough, sauerkraut, giardinera, lacto-fermented salsa, hot sauce, yogurt, and kim chi, among others! Garlic pickles and lime-juice-fermented lime pickles are my favorites!

I LOVE FERMENTATION! <3
03/18/2013
Kristi :) Kristi :)
Quote:
Originally posted by Antipova
Welcome!
[[
Hello early birds.

While folks show up, I guess let's focus on having a meeting that's pretty drama free... so how about the weather? How far along has spring come where you live? Still snow? Planting seeds in the ... More
Wintry mix this morning. No sign of spring yet...
03/18/2013
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