Stop saying that silicone toys "melt" when they touch!!!

Dangerous Lilly Dangerous Lilly
This myth is oddly prevalent especially with new reviewers. True, pure medical grade / food grade / platinum silicone sex toys will never degrade (or "melt"). That only happens with mixed products, TPR, jelly, etc.

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Mine is the second one. There are 4 different brands of silicone toys in there I think. Nobody is yelling "OMG UR TOUCHING MEEEEEEE" and dying
02/19/2013
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The Vixen The Vixen
Very true!
I used to be afraid of my toys touching, but then I realized that when you buy sets of 2 or 3 silicone C-rings they're always nestled against each other in the packaging and they don't react to each other.

I have had a silicone toy and a jelly toy react, the jelly toy lost but the silicone (by Tantus) was totally unscathed.
02/19/2013
Dangerous Lilly Dangerous Lilly
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Originally posted by The Vixen
Very true!
I used to be afraid of my toys touching, but then I realized that when you buy sets of 2 or 3 silicone C-rings they're always nestled against each other in the packaging and they don't react to each other.

I have had a ... More
Most "silicone" c-rings, especially if they come in a pack, are likely not true and pure silicone. They can say "silicone" because it contains some, but it is usually a TPR-silicone blend, to make them more stretchy. These CAN sometimes react, depending on the other materials blended.
02/19/2013
FunFantasys FunFantasys
Yep, as long as it is a high grade silicon it wont matter if the touch. But never ruin a good silicone toy by touching it with a jelly toy, in fact just don't own jelly toys, its better that way.
02/19/2013
married with children married with children
I have never had a problem with melting.
02/19/2013
Gunsmoke Gunsmoke
Interesting - I've never had a problem, but I did believe the myth. Thanks for the correct info!
02/20/2013
sillylilkitten sillylilkitten
Kind of wish I'd known that other toys did melt before I messed up one of mine, haha. But that's good to know that it doesn't happen with high quality silicone.
02/20/2013
purpledesert purpledesert
Interesting, good post by tantus.
02/20/2013
kendra30752 kendra30752
Quote:
Originally posted by Dangerous Lilly
This myth is oddly prevalent especially with new reviewers. True, pure medical grade / food grade / platinum silicone sex toys will never degrade (or "melt"). That only happens with mixed products, TPR, jelly, etc.

Proof 1: ... More
Lillie, this is because Tantus truly uses 100% pure silicone. As mentioned, other toys are not always (hardly ever unless it's a luxury toy) 100% silicone. The thing is, when we review and the product's material is labeled silicone, we choose to go ahead and say "don't let it be in direct contact with other silicone toys" because most companies won't ever reveal that the toy has more than just silicone. And we can't always decipher what really is in the toy since the manufacturer chose to call it 100% pure silicone, so we just throw in the word of caution that it is labeled silicone and shouldn't be stored with other silicone.

I say this because MOST toys labeled silicone are not ever 100% silicone. I don't think any of cal exotics are -- maybe the newer ones -- Cal Ex will even write "100% pure silicone" on A JELLY toy! Crazy. It's sad, but we really have the manufacturers to blame.

I have stored Snuggle Puss next to a 100% pure silicone toy and never had issues, but as soon as I put my Cal Ex clitoral toy in there -- that was supposedly 100% silicone, but actually 100% JELLY -- it did warp and change shapes.

So I think most of us give the warning like we do because it's better safe than sorry and it's just a way to throw caution out there since with most manufacturers, there's such a high possibility that their toy isn't really pure, 100%.
02/20/2013
Forum Moderator Forum Moderator
Quote:
Originally posted by kendra30752
Lillie, this is because Tantus truly uses 100% pure silicone. As mentioned, other toys are not always (hardly ever unless it's a luxury toy) 100% silicone. The thing is, when we review and the product's material is labeled silicone, we choose ... More
Accusations without undeniable proof is against the Expectations of Conduct and Terms of Service.

It is not difficult to distinguish the difference between a jelly or PVC based toy and silicone. No company in the United States of America is allowed to term their silicone products as medical grade.

The general rule of thumb is to buy the best you can afford and if you're in doubt, condoms or toy covers are an option.

Should you have proof a toy is mislabeled, please contact one of the admins to open an investigation. Thank you!
02/20/2013
Jaimes Jaimes
I've had two TPR toys get into a fight side by side, but never an issue with opaque silicone.
02/20/2013
Ansley Ansley
Quote:
Originally posted by Jaimes
I've had two TPR toys get into a fight side by side, but never an issue with opaque silicone.
Yeah, I had TPR melt into a piece of cloth once. I've also had them pick up ink from magazines they've been set on - this was before I learned the differences between materials.
02/20/2013
Dangerous Lilly Dangerous Lilly
Quote:
Originally posted by kendra30752
Lillie, this is because Tantus truly uses 100% pure silicone. As mentioned, other toys are not always (hardly ever unless it's a luxury toy) 100% silicone. The thing is, when we review and the product's material is labeled silicone, we choose ... More
I actually have one of the cheap Doc Johnson "original" that were re-done in silicone and I performed the flame test. IT PASSED. It wouldn't pass if it weren't 100% silicone.

So yeah. It's possible.
02/20/2013
Dangerous Lilly Dangerous Lilly
Quote:
Originally posted by Forum Moderator
Accusations without undeniable proof is against the Expectations of Conduct and Terms of Service.

It is not difficult to distinguish the difference between a jelly or PVC based toy and silicone. No company in the United States of America is ... More
"It is not difficult to distinguish the difference between a jelly or PVC based toy and silicone. No company in the United States of America is allowed to term their silicone products as medical grade. "

Yes they are. It's unregulated, they can say whatever they want.

There is also "food grade" silicone, which is just as good (used to make your kitchen products) and will pass the flame test.
02/20/2013
Lady of the Lab Lady of the Lab
I keep my silicone toys apart because I have had an already damaged silicone toy damage another silicone toy when they were stored together. However, I don't plan to damage my new silicone toys, so it shouldn't be a problem.

NOTE: I accidentally used a silicone-lubricated condom on a dildo, and that damage is what incurred damage on the other dildo in question.

@Dangerous Lilly: I am envious of your toy collection :3
02/20/2013
LikeSunshineDust LikeSunshineDust
Thank you for debunking this myth.

P.S. - I love "Nobody is yelling "OMG UR TOUCHING MEEEEEEE" and dying"
02/20/2013
Ansley Ansley
Quote:
Originally posted by Dangerous Lilly
"It is not difficult to distinguish the difference between a jelly or PVC based toy and silicone. No company in the United States of America is allowed to term their silicone products as medical grade. "

Yes they are. It's ... More
Fair enough, that should have been worded as "no can say their products are FDA-approved medical grade silicone".

The silicone would have to undergo a battery of tests regulated by the FDA in order to be labeled as such. They also have to be manufactured in white rooms. There are also shipping regulations to prevent contamination. As sex toys are sold as novelties only, the hoops a company would have to go through to get that kind of certification aren't worth it.

If a company is touting medical-grade silicone then buyer should certainly beware (unless they have the certification on their website and a picture of their sterile labs). Otherwise, it's hog-wash.

There is body-safe silicone and there is food-grade silicone in toys but none of it is, technically medical grade, because they aren't manufactured in sterile environments (sterile is not synonymous with clean).

Which is a little confusing for those not aware of the process, because technically platinum silicone is medical grade IF it's manufactured in a white room, and shipped in sterilized, hermetically-sealed packages by people in white coats and hairnets.

Blending silicone with jelly materials causes the substance to become unstable, you couldn't get a solid toy out of a combination like this. It would never make it to the packaging phase.

There's a lot of misinformation out there on the web. We're glad to see that you're attempting to correct one misconception out there.
02/20/2013
Incendiaire Incendiaire
I've always been horribly paranoid about keeping my toys separated so that none of them touch, but at least now I can be sure that if I throw all my silicone toys in the drawer together that nothing bad will happen.
02/20/2013
Mr. E Mr. E
Dangerous Lilly,
Thank you for posting this!


We have stored our collection of 100% silicone toys together like this for several years with no issues. None, zip, zero, zilch! We currently have two drawers full of silicone toys stored loosely, similar to those in the first picture. No baggies or separation whatsoever. They are in full contact with each other, free to mingle and do as they wish once the drawer closes. We have a large collection of Tantus, Vixen, Happy Valley, and even a few from Fun Factory all stored together this way.
02/21/2013
*Camoprincess* *Camoprincess*
Thanks for the proof, either way I store all mine separate don't want something to accidentally happen to my precious toys
02/21/2013
js250 js250
Thanks for the information!! I go by the info on the manufacturer's packaging/instructions that usually states to not store them together and also NOT to use silicone lubes with silicone products. I have had some very colorful and disgusting colored areas where some of them have touched....
02/22/2013
GONE! GONE!
Thank you so much for clearing this up!
02/22/2013
amenti amenti
Quote:
Originally posted by kendra30752
Lillie, this is because Tantus truly uses 100% pure silicone. As mentioned, other toys are not always (hardly ever unless it's a luxury toy) 100% silicone. The thing is, when we review and the product's material is labeled silicone, we choose ... More
I have the same problem with Cal Exotics!
It said plastic and it was really Jelly with some plastic in it.
Here's my post:
link
02/27/2013
spineyogurt spineyogurt
interesting
02/27/2013
travelnurse travelnurse
Hey, I will store one or two of my frequently used one out but when I put them away I put them in baggies just because I want to keep them nice and I don't want them full of lint and such. I love my toys and I want to keep them nice. Yes I have had less than silicone's melt in drawers and such!
02/27/2013
Femme Mystique Femme Mystique
I tell my mentor program students this as well. I have stored my silicone toys together for years.

PS - nice collection.
03/04/2013
evie.amor evie.amor
They won't melt unless they aren't 100% silicone and sometimes the packaging is deceiving. Tantus is a good brand though so I trust their products.
03/04/2013
KatPawz2003 KatPawz2003
I have never had any problems with my silicone melting. The things I have had problems with is the silicone touching my TPR and causing the TPR to melt. I am not sure why the silicone did this other than the fact that TPR is a mixed material. I try and store all of my toys in bags to prevent this from ever happening again. Glass, TPR jelly, and any of the other mixed materials get one toy per bag; plastic, silicone, metal, wood, and other "pure" materials get one type of toy per bag.
06/04/2013
alliegator alliegator
I have had jelly and tpr toys melt. After throwing them away, I decided to stick to toys that won't get ruined by JUST SITTING THERE.
06/04/2013
Anne757 Anne757
Quote:
Originally posted by Dangerous Lilly
This myth is oddly prevalent especially with new reviewers. True, pure medical grade / food grade / platinum silicone sex toys will never degrade (or "melt"). That only happens with mixed products, TPR, jelly, etc.

Proof 1: ... More
I just recently had two toys that have melted....one that I paid 170.00 for that ive never git to use because it has melted in various places. I called the lady from pure romance and she doesnt know why they have melted....never had this to happen before
10/16/2013
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