EF State of the Community Address - 2014

Contributor: Wicked Wahine Wicked Wahine
Hey Lil' Missy and RomanticGoth, just so you know, Ansley (formerly named Stormy) is no longer here and we now have no forum moderator or indeed anyone as an admin whom we can contact for support. All the people we had were fired last June and Stormy was the only replacement until she, too was let go a little while ago. No one has heard a peep from the company about the situation, nor has there been a single replacement to do what Stormy was doing which was everything, basically, from forum moderator, to review oversight and also our only contact for questions of any kind. Our only option now, is to open a support ticket only for order questions, or contact Ilya (Fred's son) who does not know much about how the community was run before, though sometimes he will respond to emails and try to help if he can. You can always ask me any questions about what is different or how things are going now. I welcome you both back and boy, could we use more returning members cos it's been pretty slow here for a while. It's nice to see friendly faces! (send me a PM if you want to ask any questions.)
04/16/2014
Contributor: wrecklesswords wrecklesswords
I'm glad that people have found this post and are responding to it again. I think that even though Ansley/Stormy is not here anymore, that it is still an important thread for our forum.
04/16/2014
Contributor: Lilith Bealove Lilith Bealove
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Originally posted by Wicked Wahine
Hey Lil' Missy and RomanticGoth, just so you know, Ansley (formerly named Stormy) is no longer here and we now have no forum moderator or indeed anyone as an admin whom we can contact for support. All the people we had were fired last June and ... more
Oh my! That explains the decline in service and community. It has seemed so quiet here the past few days. I came back to the forum today to search for ways I could help get thing going again. I ordered some affiliate fliers, so hopefully I can recruit new members.

No word on replacements or new community mods? Gah! That is horrible. I can't imagine why everyone was let go! I loved all the mods and admins, and miss them dearly.
04/19/2014
Contributor: wrecklesswords wrecklesswords
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Originally posted by Lilith Bealove
Oh my! That explains the decline in service and community. It has seemed so quiet here the past few days. I came back to the forum today to search for ways I could help get thing going again. I ordered some affiliate fliers, so hopefully I can ... more
There is no word that we know of. At least not that I have heard. Things are kind of in the grey area right now and the rest of us are trying to keep going and stick together
04/19/2014
Contributor: Lilith Bealove Lilith Bealove
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Originally posted by wrecklesswords
There is no word that we know of. At least not that I have heard. Things are kind of in the grey area right now and the rest of us are trying to keep going and stick together
Guess I'll join the band o' stragglers. So, the mods/admins got fired/let go and stopped being members or were made to stop being members?
04/19/2014
Contributor: Wicked Wahine Wicked Wahine
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Originally posted by Lilith Bealove
Guess I'll join the band o' stragglers. So, the mods/admins got fired/let go and stopped being members or were made to stop being members?
Welcome to our motley crew! All the admins we knew and dealt with were fired mostly en mass last May or June (there was a recording up on YouTube for a bit of that, so we know exactly what happened). If you are interested, I will fill you in and answer any questions you have about what happened and where we stand now. I won't go into all of it again on here just because in the past, we would get into trouble for "airing dirty laundry" so to speak. I will try to find my pared down summaries I left on the forum in response to other returning member's questions the last few months. If I find them, I'll post a link to the info in this thread for you. Give me some time to respond to any PMs you send because I have been having a really tough time with my migraines and sometimes it's too hard to think.

Well, I searched for my comments to people asking what the hell happened to EF and guess what? It turns out all of those threads were removed! I knew they were purging the site of many posts containing criticism, but i didn't realize so many of the innocuous posts were removed as well. This is part of the problem for people returning because they cannot find info on what happened and then they run into conflicting info due to all the old, outdated info still up *sigh*. Anyway, I included anything I could find where I and others explained things as they happened, or after. I will just have to fill you in more later via PM.

You can check out my comments on this thread and this one, this one, this and this is from when Stormy left
04/20/2014
Contributor: wrecklesswords wrecklesswords
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Originally posted by Wicked Wahine
Welcome to our motley crew! All the admins we knew and dealt with were fired mostly en mass last May or June (there was a recording up on YouTube for a bit of that, so we know exactly what happened). If you are interested, I will fill you in and ... more
You are so efficient!
04/20/2014
Contributor: OH&W, Lovebears OH&W, Lovebears
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Originally posted by Lilith Bealove
Guess I'll join the band o' stragglers. So, the mods/admins got fired/let go and stopped being members or were made to stop being members?
Hope you do stick around. The more of us stragglers the better.
04/20/2014
Contributor: wrecklesswords wrecklesswords
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Originally posted by OH&W, Lovebears
Hope you do stick around. The more of us stragglers the better.
haha I so agree!
04/20/2014
Contributor: Wicked Wahine Wicked Wahine
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Originally posted by wrecklesswords
You are so efficient!
Aww, thanks, wrecklesswords! And I sure do hope you and OH&W stick around, I enjoy you both! In fact, I am soon going to PM you and others I know and who I think would be interested in an idea I have about a different kind of rumble where we can run it ourselves and even supply the $25 gift cards ourselves as well. I thought of it while reading BlackOrchid's thread about starting the rumble (she had to cancel it due to lack of interest ), but my idea which for now I am calling a super rumble (for lack of a better name as yet, but I will rename it), will be separate from the regular rumble, so should BlackOrchid or someone else choose to start that up again, my super rumble won't interfere - actually, I even have thought of a way to add incentive to enter that one without detracting from the super rumble. Anyway, I tried to think of everything, at least for now, and I will leave the link to it here. Any other ideas, suggestions, comments, etc. are appreciated!
04/29/2014
Contributor: wrecklesswords wrecklesswords
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Originally posted by Wicked Wahine
Aww, thanks, wrecklesswords! And I sure do hope you and OH&W stick around, I enjoy you both! In fact, I am soon going to PM you and others I know and who I think would be interested in an idea I have about a different kind of rumble where we can ... more
I will definitely be sticking around! I need to get better at being on the forums again and actually participating when I say I'm going to be.
04/29/2014
Contributor: Sir Sir
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Originally posted by Wicked Wahine
Aww, thanks, wrecklesswords! And I sure do hope you and OH&W stick around, I enjoy you both! In fact, I am soon going to PM you and others I know and who I think would be interested in an idea I have about a different kind of rumble where we can ... more
This is really depressing. I've been a member for, what, six years now, and I used to be placed number 3 in the ranking. I stopped being incredibly active maybe two years ago when things ended in my previous relationship, but even then, things were getting slightly bad.

How upsetting.
05/22/2014
Contributor: charmedtomeetyou charmedtomeetyou
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Originally posted by Sir
This is really depressing. I've been a member for, what, six years now, and I used to be placed number 3 in the ranking. I stopped being incredibly active maybe two years ago when things ended in my previous relationship, but even then, things ... more
Yes....it's a very different place around here.
05/22/2014
Contributor: Sir Sir
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Originally posted by charmedtomeetyou
Yes....it's a very different place around here.
I submitted a request for a monthly review. Do they even do that here anymore?
05/22/2014
Contributor: charmedtomeetyou charmedtomeetyou
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Originally posted by Sir
I submitted a request for a monthly review. Do they even do that here anymore?
They do...but they are much harder to get.
05/22/2014
Contributor: Sir Sir
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Originally posted by charmedtomeetyou
They do...but they are much harder to get.
Ah, interesting. Where can I find what changes were made to the site? Is there even anyone left?
05/22/2014
Contributor: charmedtomeetyou charmedtomeetyou
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Originally posted by Sir
Ah, interesting. Where can I find what changes were made to the site? Is there even anyone left?
you may only use points for 15% of your order....assignments are trickier....and lots of folks are gone...

there is no admin on the forum....

yep...lots has changed...
05/22/2014
Contributor: Sir Sir
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Originally posted by charmedtomeetyou
you may only use points for 15% of your order....assignments are trickier....and lots of folks are gone...

there is no admin on the forum....

yep...lots has changed...
Interesting. That is slightly depressing. Who's here to edit and publish the reviews, then? I sent a support ticket asking if they needed help.
05/22/2014
Contributor: charmedtomeetyou charmedtomeetyou
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Originally posted by Sir
Interesting. That is slightly depressing. Who's here to edit and publish the reviews, then? I sent a support ticket asking if they needed help.
It takes much, much longer, as editors aren't working as much without the incentive of points that can be used in full.

There are still a few of us who edit, some more than others.
05/22/2014
Contributor: Sir Sir
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Originally posted by charmedtomeetyou
It takes much, much longer, as editors aren't working as much without the incentive of points that can be used in full.

There are still a few of us who edit, some more than others.
Yeah, I told them I didn't need the incentive or any payment. I just like doing it and I dislike seeing people's reviews not being published. Hopefully they respond, because I really did love editing reviews, it was very fun. It was upsetting when they limited us to only a few reviews a day, because I liked doing that.
05/22/2014
Contributor: indiechick indiechick
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Originally posted by Sir
Interesting. That is slightly depressing. Who's here to edit and publish the reviews, then? I sent a support ticket asking if they needed help.
there are a few good editors left, but there are also a lot of bad ones, but the back log is not nearly what it used to be. I'd say were running behind only because of the editing limit of 2 for points and 3 total per day. I edit 2 a day and send one plagiarized review into whatever black whole we have been left with. I have sent in over a half a dozen support tickets this year and have heard back on one. (the most recent one I sent in) about a bad review and even shotier editing job. WW is still around. JS250 hangs out from time to time, though isn't as active. There is a good core group still here but nothing like it use to be and the well oiled machine is down to a few nuts and a bolt.
05/22/2014
Contributor: Alan & Michele Alan & Michele
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Originally posted by Sir
Ah, interesting. Where can I find what changes were made to the site? Is there even anyone left?
Hello Sir, I remember you and I have the same questions that you do. After Alan's death I had good intentions but wound up losing track of pretty much everything and everybody, both here and offline. This is the first time I've even looked at the site in I'm guessing 6 months or so (?) and I'm surprised to see what it has become.

~Michele
06/20/2014
Contributor: Rossie Rossie
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Originally posted by Alan & Michele
Hello Sir, I remember you and I have the same questions that you do. After Alan's death I had good intentions but wound up losing track of pretty much everything and everybody, both here and offline. This is the first time I've even looked at ... more
Hey Michele, glad to see you back!
06/20/2014
Contributor: Wicked Wahine Wicked Wahine
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Originally posted by Alan & Michele
Hello Sir, I remember you and I have the same questions that you do. After Alan's death I had good intentions but wound up losing track of pretty much everything and everybody, both here and offline. This is the first time I've even looked at ... more
I bet it's a real shock! Welcome back though to what's left and there are still some good people here, just less of them. People come and go a lot, too, and we are always happy to welcome people back. I am sorry to hear about your troubles and frankly, 6 months away is not much at all given your circumstance. I am sending you a PM to catch you up about all that's happened and where we stand now. I'm delighted to see you back and I know others will be as well!
06/21/2014
Contributor: icyqueen icyqueen
Just poppin' in to say Hi!
06/21/2014
Contributor: KyotoAngel KyotoAngel
...I'm not going to read through the whole thread right now, (Can't sleep so I figured I'd check in here and see what's going on.) but it is really nice to see more people coming back. =3

The new point system isn't all that bad really...15% is better than nothing, and there always seems to be some sort of awesome sale going on so if you couple that 15% with sale prices, there's a whole lot less to complain about.

I still love this place for the people (okay...the epic selection of glass that I have yet to find many of the pieces anywhere else certainly doesn't exactly hurt either. xD ), so as long as the forum exists, I'll keep coming back to it. <3

Once we're settled down in our own place, I'm actually super excited to start reviewing things again and trying to get back into a relatively decent activity level on here.
06/24/2014
Contributor: OH&W, Lovebears OH&W, Lovebears
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Originally posted by KyotoAngel
...I'm not going to read through the whole thread right now, (Can't sleep so I figured I'd check in here and see what's going on.) but it is really nice to see more people coming back. =3

The new point system isn't all ... more
KyotoAngel, We are all looking forward to that. Boy, I hate moving and settling in too. Seems like always can't find something.
06/25/2014
Contributor: Alan & Michele Alan & Michele
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Originally posted by Rossie
Hey Michele, glad to see you back!
Hi Rossie! Glad to see you too
06/26/2014
Contributor: Alan & Michele Alan & Michele
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Originally posted by Wicked Wahine
I bet it's a real shock! Welcome back though to what's left and there are still some good people here, just less of them. People come and go a lot, too, and we are always happy to welcome people back. I am sorry to hear about your troubles ... more
Thanks for the updates and welcome
06/26/2014
Contributor: SexScienceAndFood SexScienceAndFood
I'm the new kid on the block and haven't been here very long, so I never experienced the old level of activity. I have been informed by others what that old activity entailed and how the point system was abused resulting in tons of fluff. Right now, the forums seem slow. I'd like more activity, for sure, but it is what it is. I suppose I'd rather it be slow then to be a raging pool of garbage posts. So far, I have met a few people and some have actively been awesome in reaching out to me. I'd much rather have these interactions than tons of meaningless ones. If there was a way to get a bit more activity without sacrificing quality, that would be great, but if more activity means lower quality, then it isn't worth it.
07/06/2014