Yeah, it's as announced on AVN 4 years ago, but must have been back-burnered for a bit or optioned by someone...dunno (Adam, what took so long? ). Just glad that they made it in the first place! less

Sundae-I apologize that the faders are not available. You aren't the first person to inquire either. Unfortunately, the purchasing department has not picked them up yet. Send an email to customer service, maybe?!? If there is a demand,I'm sure they will come through.
I'd prefer you to spend your money right here, on EdenFantasys, but if time is of urgency, you should be able to find them right around the corner at an XHale preferred reseller (links can be found on our website).

They are very pretty and one of my favorites! less

Did you not read Adam's comment where he said "They have been on our retail site for almost six years if I'mdoing my math correctly."?

I did some searching, and ChilDils have not been on the market very long. I found this on their blog - "Launching in Late November/Early December 2009".

If anything, thattoychick is using their idea. Please check your facts before telling people it's ridiculous. less

Unfortunately, this whole thing is quite distorted by the fact that Chilldils were/are going to be produced by someone in the review/sexblogging community. It's sort of small guy vs big guy.

If it were two large manufacturers, nobody would question one manufacturer bringing up their product and patent when the other manufacturer was about to produce something similar.

It's quite natural for a company to want to protect something they paid tens of thousands to register and patent -- even if it hasn't been available for sale in awhile. That's why people register for patents, to protect their ideas and investments.

I don't think anyone has said anything bad about chilldils or ThatToyChick. It's been my impression that Xhale has simply made sure TTC was aware and abiding by patent laws.

Which, as I started this post with, wouldn't be an issue if it were Don Wands vs Xhale. Nearly everyone would support Xhale's right to protect their investment and invention.

It's the fact that it's personal to a lot of folks that's making it such an inflammatory issue.

Personally? I donated money to Chilldils. I'd buy one if they became available and were not infringing on a patent. But I'll definitely also buy an Xhale bag as soon as they're again available. Just like I buy silicone cocks from Tantus and Vixen and Fun Factory and Whipsider. less

Carrie Ann,

I tossed and turned all night after reading some very inaccurate and upsetting information online regarding myself, as an individual, a product of ours and the Chilldils pouch.

There seems to be a bit of confusion. hopefully, I can clear this up immediately.

We have been receiving order requests on EF for the temperature pouch. I had uploaded the item via the website software and it asked me for a release date. It is a little difficult because EF is not a full line supplier of our product line. We have hundreds of products and not everything is carried on the website. I thought it would be strange to list a release date in 2005, when the product was first made available, so I simply added a date in the near future to eliminate any confusion, and hopefully encourage the company to place an order with us.

The item in question has been selling in the retail world since it was first released at AVN 2005. We shipped a ton of them....the issue right now is that we simply have not re-manufactured for a while. XHale is not just now coming out with this product. The review in AVN was made over a year after the product had already been selling in high volume. (They do not review products that are unavailable for purchase) It is readily available at many stores right here in the States...and has been for years. I need everyone to understand that we don't retail anymore, so when we ship product, it is in high volume, typically, and the inventory lasts for quite a while. I just stopped in a local adult store called Fascinations, a very large chain actually, and they still have them available for purchase. We private labeled these items for Adam and Eve, Good Vibrations, Freddy and Eddy, along with dozens of other adult outlets.


No competitor has ever been issued a legal cease and desist order.

No one has been sued.

And...an offer to license the product under a manufacturing and distribution arrangement was offered----and declined.

The information being posted about the Chilldil being pulled from production was a voluntary action from the company.

There is absolutely nothing stopping anyone from making anything.

My gesture to assist in the licensing of the item was taken as a threat..but please understand that this is how ALL business is done. This is a very common way for upstarts to breakthrough in the business, and my intentions were nothing but good.

I apologize if my professional tone in any correspondence has been perceived as threatening. I have never threatened anyone with business.

I originally contacted the company not to start trouble, but to make them aware that there was already a product in the marketplace being manufactured, and because a fundraiser was set up, I thought it would be a responsible thing to bring to someone's attention--the money had not been funded yet..the fundraiser was not even over at the time I contacted Chilldils... and I just was hoping to make the business aware so they could make a decision and inform the donating parties of the situation before they gave up their hard earned money..just didn't want someone already struggling with finances to be faced with angry investors.

We all work together in this industry....its not a battle amongst toy companies, contrary to what many of you may think. We are all friends for the most part and I have always gone out of my way, probably more times than I should have, to lend a hand to someone in need.

If I were Chilldils, I would continue to manufacture the product. It has been made very clear to me that the product is completely different by the owner. Only a court order could stop them...and I am not a judge. I do not personally have the power to stop one's business ventures. I was just trying to help someone achieve their goals faster..many companies would not opt to do this for an upstart.

On a side note, I would have really hoped by now that the people in the online community were able to see that XHale is a friendly company with great business ethics. We are also people, too...and have feelings like all of you. It really hurts me to see so many of you slandering me as a person, when I have been so very kind to many of you in the past.

Thanks for reading.

Remember there are always two sides to every story. less

Carrie Ann,

I tossed and turned all night after reading some very inaccurate and upsetting information online regarding myself, as an individual, a product of ours and the Chilldils pouch.

There seems to be a bit of confusion. hopefully, I can clear this up immediately.

We have been receiving order requests on EF for the temperature pouch. I had uploaded the item via the website software and it asked me for a release date. It is a little difficult because EF is not a full line supplier of our product line. We have hundreds of products and not everything is carried on the website. I thought it would be strange to list a release date in 2005, when the product was first made available, so I simply added a date in the near future to eliminate any confusion, and hopefully encourage the company to place an order with us.

The item in question has been selling in the retail world since it was first released at AVN 2005. We shipped a ton of them....the issue right now is that we simply have not re-manufactured for a while. XHale is not just now coming out with this product. The review in AVN was made over a year after the product had already been selling in high volume. (They do not review products that are unavailable for purchase) It is readily available at many stores right here in the States...and has been for years. I need everyone to understand that we don't retail anymore, so when we ship product, it is in high volume, typically, and the inventory lasts for quite a while. I just stopped in a local adult store called Fascinations, a very large chain actually, and they still have them available for purchase. We private labeled these items for Adam and Eve, Good Vibrations, Freddy and Eddy, along with dozens of other adult outlets.


No competitor has ever been issued a legal cease and desist order.

No one has been sued.

And...an offer to license the product under a manufacturing and distribution arrangement was offered----and declined.

The information being posted about the Chilldil being pulled from production was a voluntary action from the company.

There is absolutely nothing stopping anyone from making anything.

My gesture to assist in the licensing of the item was taken as a threat..but please understand that this is how ALL business is done. This is a very common way for upstarts to breakthrough in the business, and my intentions were nothing but good.

I apologize if my professional tone in any correspondence has been perceived as threatening. I have never threatened anyone with business.

I originally contacted the company not to start trouble, but to make them aware that there was already a product in the marketplace being manufactured, and because a fundraiser was set up, I thought it would be a responsible thing to bring to someone's attention--the money had not been funded yet..the fundraiser was not even over at the time I contacted Chilldils... and I just was hoping to make the business aware so they could make a decision and inform the donating parties of the situation before they gave up their hard earned money..just didn't want someone already struggling with finances to be faced with angry investors.

We all work together in this industry....its not a battle amongst toy companies, contrary to what many of you may think. We are all friends for the most part and I have always gone out of my way, probably more times than I should have, to lend a hand to someone in need.

If I were Chilldils, I would continue to manufacture the product. It has been made very clear to me that the product is completely different by the owner. Only a court order could stop them...and I am not a judge. I do not personally have the power to stop one's business ventures. I was just trying to help someone achieve their goals faster..many companies would not opt to do this for an upstart.

On a side note, I would have really hoped by now that the people in the online community were able to see that XHale is a friendly company with great business ethics. We are also people, too...and have feelings like all of you. It really hurts me to see so many of you slandering me as a person, when I have been so very kind to many of you in the past.

Thanks for reading.

Remember there are always two sides to every story. less

thanks for that flag, carnavalesq. I agree with you that we are due an apology, although I do not need one..nor do I expect one from anyone, including yourself for the comment you made to everyone contributing to this thread. People need to stop reading between the lines and start assessing the whole situation. We wanted to help Chilldils with a license that would give them the strength they need to make this a successful product. This was an opportunity for someone with big dreams..its unfortunate it was taken as a threat. less

Unfortunately, this whole thing is quite distorted by the fact that Chilldils were/are going to be produced by someone in the review/sexblogging community. It's sort of small guy vs big guy.

If it were two large manufacturers, nobody would question one manufacturer bringing up their product and patent when the other manufacturer was about to produce something similar.

It's quite natural for a company to want to protect something they paid tens of thousands to register and patent -- even if it hasn't been available for sale in awhile. That's why people register for patents, to protect their ideas and investments.

I don't think anyone has said anything bad about chilldils or ThatToyChick. It's been my impression that Xhale has simply made sure TTC was aware and abiding by patent laws.

Which, as I started this post with, wouldn't be an issue if it were Don Wands vs Xhale. Nearly everyone would support Xhale's right to protect their investment and invention.

It's the fact that it's personal to a lot of folks that's making it such an inflammatory issue.

Personally? I donated money to Chilldils. I'd buy one if they became available and were not infringing on a patent. But I'll definitely also buy an Xhale bag as soon as they're again available. Just like I buy silicone cocks from Tantus and Vixen and Fun Factory and Whipsider. less

There is a difference between your hypothetical situation and the current one; I'm assuming in a Big vs. Big guy match up an actual patent number would have been referenced at some point. With out that this entire conversation is based on a good deal of vagueness and assumption drawn therefrom. The specifics make a world a difference in situations like this. For example it is possible that Xhale does holds a patent but one, like with the borosilicate glass sex toy issue, that should be rendered invalid. However for such details to be discussed such details must be available to those discussing it.

Also stalling and not producing a patent number in a timely fashion could be beneficial to the one doing the stalling for a variety of reasons, I'm not accusing Xhale of doing this, just illustrating my point as to why seeing a patient number is important, in a situation like this. less

Actually, from what I understand of patent law, a company doesn't have to produce a patent number.

The company making something that may be patented is, instead, obligated to do a patent search.

I'm certainly not a lawyer but my ex was a bit of an inventor. Any time he wanted to sell something new he created, he'd make sure, first, that there wasn't a patent on it. less