Sex Offender Registry....Poll

Sex Offender Registry....Poll

jmex83 jmex83
This goes off the discussion topic that I just posted. I was wondering how many of you know someone (or are yourself) on the sex offenders registry. ALL VOTING IS PRIVATE.
Answers (private voting - your screen name will NOT appear in the results):
I know someone on the Sex offenders registry
19
I am on the Sex offenders registry
It was a violent/forceful crime
4
It was not a violent/forceful crime (consentual/age difference issue, etc)
11
NA/Does Not apply to me
57
Total votes: 91 (75 voters)
Poll is closed
03/16/2012
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Teacookie Teacookie
It's really sad when you come across one that was abused as a child by family and committed the offense while under 10 as well. The guy I know, the victims family did not press charges. That says alot to me.
03/16/2012
- Kira - - Kira -
I know someone on the list. He got put on the list by pressing his dick up against the window of a Taco Bell. Not smart, but not at the same level as rape. I'm not sure he deserves to be on that list.
03/16/2012
JessCee JessCee
Quote:
Originally posted by - Kira -
I know someone on the list. He got put on the list by pressing his dick up against the window of a Taco Bell. Not smart, but not at the same level as rape. I'm not sure he deserves to be on that list.
In my opinion, no, he has no business being on the same list with a rapist...
03/16/2012
Schattenstern Schattenstern
A lot of the times the worse of a crime that you commit your punishment is less.
03/16/2012
Master DarkWolf Master DarkWolf
I don't know about anyone, including myself.
03/16/2012
DreamWolf DreamWolf
Quote:
Originally posted by Master DarkWolf
I don't know about anyone, including myself.
Same here! ^^
03/16/2012
Petite Valentine Petite Valentine
I know someone on the registry and he absolutely deserves to be on it, however I think the whole thing is horseshit. There is a segment of the population that gets a false sense of security from the list — they think they know who to watch for — and there is a segment of the population that has no chance at a normal life because the list doesn't differentiate between a bona fide pedophile and some jerk who got caught taking a leak on a playground fence while drunk. It's just another decent idea POORLY executed.
03/17/2012
MissCandyland MissCandyland
I don't know anyone on it.
03/17/2012
Destri Destri
I know someone on it who definitely deserves to be there! But I agree with Petite Valentine that is poorly executed.
03/17/2012
DiamondKoala DiamondKoala
I don't know anyone on the list personally, but I agree the life time brand of being a sex offender can make it unreasonably difficult for people who are being rehabilitated or are convicted in certain circumstances.
03/17/2012
jmex83 jmex83
Quote:
Originally posted by JessCee
In my opinion, no, he has no business being on the same list with a rapist...
I agree. Theres a certain level i think that folks have to be at before they get put on that list. some folks do some stupid shit, maybe they don't think things through or they were drunk or something. doesn't mean that they are a dangerous rapist/molester.
03/17/2012
Antipova Antipova
Quote:
Originally posted by Petite Valentine
I know someone on the registry and he absolutely deserves to be on it, however I think the whole thing is horseshit. There is a segment of the population that gets a false sense of security from the list — they think they know who to watch for — and ...
It really is such a good idea, but it really is so poorly implemented. The guy I know who's on the list (we went to high school together) is an extremely kind, considerate guy... and the parents of his 2-years-younger girlfriend didn't like his haircut, so on the day of his 18th birthday *bam* they called in statutory rape. The whole school was outraged, and the poor girlfriend didn't date anyone else the rest of high school, but he's still on the sex offender registry.

Way to ruin someone's chances of finding a decent job or housing despite them not having hurt anyone ever.
03/17/2012
ksparkles16 ksparkles16
I don't know anyone either
03/17/2012
Hallmar82 Hallmar82
Technically, I suppose I should be nice my wife and I started dating in high school and I turned 18 before her. Since we're married now, I doubt there will be any charges filed anytime soon...though I could be wrong.
03/17/2012
js250 js250
I don't know of anyone on the list, but I also do not look it up for my aera either. I have no faith in lists..
03/17/2012
Brandonn Brandonn
I don't know anyone on the list, nor am i on it.

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03/17/2012
Azule Azule
I don't think I know anyone who's a registered sex offender. I know some people who probably should be though.
03/17/2012
Zombirella Zombirella
Quote:
Originally posted by jmex83
This goes off the discussion topic that I just posted. I was wondering how many of you know someone (or are yourself) on the sex offenders registry. ALL VOTING IS PRIVATE.
I saw a guy's dad that I used to go to school with on there...=/
03/17/2012
P'Gell P'Gell
I don't know anyone on the list in our area. In our area all the people on the list have been convicted of force crimes with NO consent. Nobody on the list was caught urinating in public (in our area, that offense is in the same class as walking with an open beer; not a big deal)

As the people in our area have ALL been convicted of multiple forceful offenses, mostly offenses perpetrated on children, I want nothing to do with these people. I have my kids avoid the apartment buildings and houses where these people live.

Yes, there are abusers who are NOT on the list. But everyone ON the list is someone who forced themselves on someone without their consent.
03/17/2012
P'Gell P'Gell
Quote:
Originally posted by Antipova
It really is such a good idea, but it really is so poorly implemented. The guy I know who's on the list (we went to high school together) is an extremely kind, considerate guy... and the parents of his 2-years-younger girlfriend didn't like ...
This is very rare. Do you know for certain that the reason he was convicted of a sex crime was only due to the fact that the girl's parents "didn't like his hair?" It's pretty hard, in this day and age to get a conviction on statutory rape, especially if it's only a few years difference. In order to get a conviction, the girl would have most likely had to testify that he tricked her or raped her without consent. If one wasn't at the trial, (and one has to be convicted of a sex crime to be on the registry) one may not have full knowledge of what happened in that courtroom.

And, the way the registry works, not everyone on it is on it for life.
03/17/2012
calliope calliope
I know of a old friend who was 18 and had a relationship with his boss's 15 yearold daughter. They had sex so he went to jail for a year. Pretty crazy I don't know if he is on the list. I hope not.
03/17/2012
Curiouscat Curiouscat
I know a guy who is. We hung out a few times but weren't quite 'friends'. He showed porn to a minor.
03/17/2012
P'Gell P'Gell
Quote:
Originally posted by calliope
I know of a old friend who was 18 and had a relationship with his boss's 15 yearold daughter. They had sex so he went to jail for a year. Pretty crazy I don't know if he is on the list. I hope not.
This is VERY rare in the US. What are known as "Romeo and Juliette" laws usually prevent teen lovers, close in age from being convicted or charged with statutory rape. Virtually every US state has a form of "R&J" laws so that young men who date women a few years younger than themselves will not be charged with crimes.

Here's an interesting quote reguarding this issue:

Romeo and Juliet laws

Often, teenage couples engage in sexual conduct as part of an intimate relationship. This may start to occur before either participant has reached the age of consent, or after one has but the other has not. In some jurisdictions (such as California), if two minors have sex with each other, they would both be guilty of engaging in unlawful sex with the other person (misdemeanor instead of felony).[10][11] Most jurisdictions, as previously stated, consider the act itself to be prima facie evidence of guilt, as any consent between partners, even if freely given, does not meet the standard of law as it is given by a person the law has defined as being incapable of giving consent.

These aspects have often been considered unjust, leading to the passage of so-called Romeo and Juliet laws, which serve to reduce or eliminate the penalty of the crime in cases where the couple's age difference is minor and the sexual contact is only considered rape because of the lack of legally recognized consent. Such laws vary, but can include:

Rephrasing the definition of the offense itself to completely exclude situations where the difference in age is smaller than a specified amount of time.
Providing an affirmative defense to statutory rape based on the small difference in the participants' ages, or on evidence of a pre-existing sexual relationship between the accused and the perceived victim that did not constitute statutory rape.
Reducing the severity of the offense from a felony to a misdemeanor, which prevents loss of civil rights and reduces available penalties.
Reducing the penalty in such cases to a fine, probation, and/or community service
Eliminating the requirement that the convicted participant register as a sex offender, or reducing the duration of such registry from life to one or five years.
Allowing a convicted party to petition for expungement after serving any adjudged sentence.

Such laws generally apply to a couple whose ages differ by less than a specified number of years. They are, however, generally unavailable in any case where the older participant has an authoritative position over the younger regardless of relative age, such as a teacher/student, coach/player or guardian/ward relationship, or if any physical force was used or serious physical injury resulted. This is normally accomplished by making acts involving these circumstances separate crimes to which the "Romeo and Juliet" defense does not apply.

An example is Texas Penal Code, Section 22.011(e). It provides an affirmative defense to a charge of sexual assault if all of the following apply:

the accused was not more than 3 years older than the perceived victim
the perceived victim was older than 14 years of age at the time of the offense

the accused was not at the time registered or required to register for life as a sex offender
the conduct did not constitute incest
neither the accused nor perceived victim would commit bigamy by marrying the other (in other words, neither was married to a third person)


Some states are even more lenient than the Texas code in terms of the number of years between teen lovers. Even with the great rarity of teen lovers being convicted of statutory rape (and the number is VERY low in the US) most states do not even require any registry on the sex offender lists.
03/17/2012
Petite Valentine Petite Valentine
Quote:
Originally posted by P'Gell
This is VERY rare in the US. What are known as "Romeo and Juliette" laws usually prevent teen lovers, close in age from being convicted or charged with statutory rape. Virtually every US state has a form of "R&J" laws so that ...
The R&J laws are much younger than the list, and their application has not been retroactive. If you were already serving time when they were passed, you continued serving. Same is true of the registry. A person could hire a lawyer in of getting his or her name removed, but it is a costly and lengthy process with no guaranteed outcome.

ETA:

"Nobody on the list was caught urinating in public (in our area, that offense is in the same class as walking with an open beer; not a big deal)"

It's usually not a big deal anywhere, except for the fact that one unlucky individual made the drunken decision to urinate on a playground fence post while children happened to be playing. I don't know that any of the children actually what he was doing, but the place alone raised the crime to a sexual offense in the eyes of the law and earned him a spot on the registry.
03/17/2012
Antipova Antipova
Quote:
Originally posted by P'Gell
This is very rare. Do you know for certain that the reason he was convicted of a sex crime was only due to the fact that the girl's parents "didn't like his hair?" It's pretty hard, in this day and age to get a conviction on ...
I don't want to give away a whole lot of personal details but her parents were/are heavily involved in town politics.
03/17/2012
Beck Beck
I know a few people on the list. My grandfather is on there for molesting me as a child. He fully deserves to be on that list as well as on as many flayers as I can print out! I have a cousin on there, who I feel shouldn't be on there. (He meet a girl in a bar and went home with her, woke up to daddy's shot gun in his face and found out the girl was only 14, he was 18.) I know another man that is on there because he had sex with a girl who was 15 and he was 27. In my opinion he doesn't deserve to be on that list either. She knew she wanted to have sex with him and she wouldn't have changed it still to this day. He did not rape her.

The Law here in Ohio only allows for a 4 year age gap, so if you are four years and a few months, you can be charged.


I found out I live within 1000 ft of 3 violent sex offenders the day I got the notice.
03/17/2012
Missmarc Missmarc
Quote:
Originally posted by jmex83
This goes off the discussion topic that I just posted. I was wondering how many of you know someone (or are yourself) on the sex offenders registry. ALL VOTING IS PRIVATE.
I don't know anyone on the sex offenders registry.
03/17/2012
Mwar Mwar
Don't know anyone.
03/17/2012
EnChAnTiNg EnChAnTiNg
I went to school (way back when...) with a guy who ended up on the sex offender list. He was 18 and his girlfriend was 17. He broke up with her because things just were not going well. The parent's got mad and pressed charges on him AFTER he broke up with her, but were well aware of the sexual relationship they were having throughout the 5 months they dated.
03/17/2012
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