Should some or all drugs be legalized?

Should some or all drugs be legalized?

DreamWolf DreamWolf 04/04/2012

Here is a tough question beyond all the (stupid fake) politics and moral views... And I still totally don't know what to think!

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DreamWolf DreamWolf
We all know the disadvantages of several (or some of us, all of the) drugs, and advantages of some of them... Here I mean the ones which aren't used for legal medical purposes...

Of course COUNTLESS legal drugs are more harmful than useful (because of the practically political money-power of the pharmacy industry), not to mention that MANY currently illegal drugs are way less harmful for medical treatments... Like marijuana, and some of the psychedelic drugs to help psychological problems with the spiritual experiences they give... Or for example the iboga to cure opiate addiction...

Contra reasons are always out there: marijuana can make you more careless about your life if used that often/that much, and psychedelic drugs can put you and the people around you in danger if you aren't careful enough, and/or can cause mental addiction...

But also, alcohol ruins as many lives if not more maybe, devastating families and turning humans into monsters sometimes... (Better to say, way too fucking often...)

And of course there is always the question of free will, aligning up with the topic of age, responsibilities, and your environment to influence how you live, and if you live an enriching, healthy life in every way, or just mess it up because of yourself of the awful circumstances...
There is always the question how much power the law should have, and how much power we, the people should have to decide how we want to live our life...

Also, legalizing some or all of the drugs would stop or reduce illegal activities (which are pretty much impossible to avoid anyway, because people with criminal intentions will always be out there, whatever we call criminal), not to mention the corruption inside the government, military and law enforcement... (See operation fast and furious for example, or the US troops tending to the poppy seeds in Afghanistan and selling it to the world market...)

All in all, in this extremely hard question, what is your opinion?
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catsin catsin
Quote:
Originally posted by DreamWolf
We all know the disadvantages of several (or some of us, all of the) drugs, and advantages of some of them... Here I mean the ones which aren't used for legal medical purposes...

Of course COUNTLESS legal drugs are more harmful than useful ...
I feel like too many drugs are currently illegal for reasons of profit. More profit is made off of keeping these drugs illegal than would be made off of making them legal.

I see how some of the hard drugs are more controversial and may need regulation such as heroine, meth, pcp.. but in my personal experience (which is well versed in drug culture) I've known people who can responsibly and only occasionally use such drugs such as cocaine, weed, LSD, mushrooms, and mali without becoming addicted or grossly misusing them.

OF COURSE there is a potential for physical addiction in cocaine and weed. But I believe that proper education helps to encourage responsible decision making. I was taught that weed is not habit forming and that lesson played greatly into my developing an addiction (smoked constantly for 6 years--sober since the start of 2012). I was taught that cocaine IS quickly habit forming, thus I stay away from it for the most part.

Yes, these drugs can cause a whole lot of trouble in families and society, yet alcohol can just as easily. I feel that education, family structure/support and societal standards are greatly influential in how a person chooses to treat drugs and alcohol.

Having strict rules that cause some of these drugs to be illegal only supports underground sales and distribution, which is never healthy or beneficial for communities. Also, it makes it more challenging for people to reach out when they are in need of help.

I believe that if a person challenges their perspective, realizing that much of what they believe is constructed around the cultural standards that they've been provided with, they develop an ability to see through the myths and lies supported by profiteering and perpetuated misconceptions. In other words, soda, fast-food, nicotine/tobacco, alcohol among other modern daily consumptions are ALL negative to a person's health and well-being as well as having addictive properties. Yet these are socially tolerated forms of addiction, thus they are seen as acceptable forms of addiction.

People rarely stop to consider that their daily purchases of coca-cola and taco bell are ALSO harmful to their body, the natural environment and also our economy, but it's true. I see how comparing an addiction to coca=cola with an addiction to cocaine or heroin might seem like a stretch, but my point is that RESPONSIBLE use of ANY SUBSTANCE should take precedence over compromising our bodies, environments and economy for profit.

As such, keeping certain drugs illegal only to benefit the profiteering of certain industries, corporations and government systems, without regard to the actual promotion of correct education and treatment of those dependent financially, physically or emotionally on such drugs is NEGATIVE in nature. It only promotes corruption, addiction and excessive punishment (paid for by you, the taxpayer) in place of more influential measures.
04/05/2012
Badass Badass
ALCOHOL IS MUCH MORE ADDICTIVE AND DOES SO SO SO MUCH MORE DAMAGE TO YOUR BODY..

POT IS ABOUT, IF EVEN, AS HARMFUL AS CIGARETTES. WHICH ARE PERFECTLY LEGAL.
04/05/2012
Badass Badass
Quote:
Originally posted by Badass
ALCOHOL IS MUCH MORE ADDICTIVE AND DOES SO SO SO MUCH MORE DAMAGE TO YOUR BODY..

POT IS ABOUT, IF EVEN, AS HARMFUL AS CIGARETTES. WHICH ARE PERFECTLY LEGAL.
link

DEADLY MY ASS.
04/05/2012
<3BF <3BF
Quote:
Originally posted by Badass
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DEADLY MY ASS.
lol, nice link. Reefer Madness the musical is based on those scare tactics. I think cannabis should be legal to everyone over 18.
04/05/2012
ViVix ViVix
Quote:
Originally posted by DreamWolf
We all know the disadvantages of several (or some of us, all of the) drugs, and advantages of some of them... Here I mean the ones which aren't used for legal medical purposes...

Of course COUNTLESS legal drugs are more harmful than useful ...
I've seen way too many people argue for marijuana when they're practically mentally retarded off of the brain cells they've killed. I don't mean to be offensive, but this even includes my own family and my deadbeat baby's daddy.
04/05/2012
Darklyvan Darklyvan
Quote:
Originally posted by DreamWolf
We all know the disadvantages of several (or some of us, all of the) drugs, and advantages of some of them... Here I mean the ones which aren't used for legal medical purposes...

Of course COUNTLESS legal drugs are more harmful than useful ...
I think most drugs should be illegal as they do cause harm over time, that being said there are some that should be legalized. For instance marijuana is less harmful than a tobacco cigarette so either marijuana should be legalized or cigarettes should be illegal. Personally I would not mind if both sides of that coin were to come true since I can not stand when you have to walk through somebody's smoke to get in a building.
04/05/2012
Incendiaire Incendiaire
I have no interest in doing drugs, but as a libertarian I support their legalisation.

The "war on drugs" has been proven not to work - no more than Prohibition did to prevent alcohol in the 1920s - it's merely forced drugs underground and fuelled the rise of dangerous gangs who profiteer from it.

Instead of wasting money trying to prevent drugs through law enforcement, governments would do better to legalise them, and better spend that money in proper education programmes to alert young people to the dangers of them, and discourage them from using them.
04/05/2012
Beck Beck
My hubby and I talk about this a lot. We like many drugs and have tried a wide variety of them. We stick to smoking pot only and we are by far not lazy or mindless. My husband has a great work ethic, going to work 8-15 hours a day 6 days a week. Not everyone is a lazy pot head. He has been smoking weed for 28 years, he will never stop. This is what he uses as his pain medication because the pain medication that the Dr's tried to feed him eat away at parts of his intestine. I personally use it at the end of the day to just chill out for bed time.

We think that the war on drugs is a load of crap and will NEVER work. As soon as you take one drug dealer out there is one waiting to take his place. And there will always be. The next person could be even worse then the first person was too. We think that all drugs should be legal and that education should be set up to make people aware of what happens to you from taking drugs. Also the government should become the Drug dealers. They already are with most things anyways, so why not these. People are always going to want to find ways to get high. If the government steps in a makes the drugs then there could be less people who die from receiving bad batches of your drug. There is profit in making drugs legal and jobs to be had if they did. The war on drugs is not effective and will never work.

Also should you look up the definition of a drug it refers to anything that is a mind alerting substance. So, when you say you are drug free, you really are not. Even sugar is a mind alerting substance. You should say illegal drug free. It really annoys me to hear people say they are drug free, when they drink alcohol, eat fatty foods, take prescription meds, and many other things, because that is not drug free. That would just be illegal drug free.
04/05/2012
Khanner Khanner
Prohibition has never stopped anyone from doing illegalized drugs, and just leads to underground economies ran by violent people.

I think most drugs should be legal, especially weed. Much research has been done on weed and chemicals found in it, and it shows promise in treating:
1. Parkinson's disease
2. Traumatic brain injury
3. Alzheimer's and dementia
4. Chronic pain
5. Cancer (and helps with chemotherapy)

I don't know enough about other drugs to say one way or another about them, but if they were also legal, I imagine it would be easier for them to seek out help with addiction or other medical problems.
04/05/2012
xilliannax xilliannax
We waste so much money jailing and searching for drugs when that money could be going towards schools or other programs to better society. People are going to do what they want to do and as long as they're only hurting themselves then WHO THE FUCK CARES.
04/05/2012
Falsepast Falsepast
if alcohol is legal i find it very senseless to have marijuana stay illegal
04/05/2012
joja joja
The basic idea underlying the drug war is that drugs have a harmful effect on society, even when they don't necessarily have a harmful effect on the individual.

However, I think all drugs should be legalized. Drug addiction should be treated as a mental condition, not a crime.

Putting people in jail for nonviolent crimes is senseless - it ruins lives, costs the government millions, and is disproportionately enforced (i.e. mostly to imprison and thus disenfranchise men of color).
04/05/2012
Missmarc Missmarc
Quote:
Originally posted by DreamWolf
We all know the disadvantages of several (or some of us, all of the) drugs, and advantages of some of them... Here I mean the ones which aren't used for legal medical purposes...

Of course COUNTLESS legal drugs are more harmful than useful ...
Legalize all drugs, then tax every transaction. Use the money and fight a few more ridiculous wars, so the US can be more in debt.
04/05/2012
Tangles Tangles
I think marijuana ought to be legalized. I don't use it, but it's really no more harmful than what they put in cigarettes and it has about as much if not less of an effect on people as alcohol. It ought to be taxed, really, and the "War on Drugs" can focus on more harmful substances, such as meth or cocaine.
04/05/2012
unfulfilled unfulfilled
I think some legal pharaceuticals drugs and over the counter medicines can do more damage than pot can. I think marijuana should be legalized, but not anything else.

I personally don't use pot or take over the counter medicine or pharmaceutical drugs, drink caffeine, etc.. I prefer all-natural, homeopathic, vitamins, minerals, etc.
04/06/2012
cepl5869 cepl5869
only marijuana
04/06/2012
JG24FanUK JG24FanUK
Quote:
Originally posted by catsin
I feel like too many drugs are currently illegal for reasons of profit. More profit is made off of keeping these drugs illegal than would be made off of making them legal.

I see how some of the hard drugs are more controversial and may need ...
I think marijuana should just be legal since a lot of people already do it anyways.
04/06/2012
married with children married with children
the problem with drugs is, that you can not tell how much is in someones system, or if they are still high. Alcohol, you can tell how much is in their blood. If someone gets hurt, or hurts someone else in my line of work; they get a drug test to see if they are drunk or high. Now, the drug test does not good on the drug end of it, as you can not tell if they are still high; only that at some point not too long ago they did some drug. But the test on their blood/alcohol level is very accurate and lets us know if someone got hurt because they chose to come to work drunk from the night before.

I will be damned if I will continue working if they make drugs legal. I refuse to put my life on the line for someone who chooses to waste their time doing drugs and then come to work high, putting their life and everyone elses life around them at risk. I have seen alot of people get hurt by someone who came to work high/drunk, or someone who hurt themselves for the same reasons. And that number will just go up if drug use is given the ok by society.
04/08/2012
spineyogurt spineyogurt
Weed sure but everything else is kinda sketch
05/04/2012
Sex Positivity Sex Positivity
I think they should legalize drugs that grow organically, but keep anything man/chemical made illegal.

Not including pharmaceuticals, because I'm on a drug cocktail that keeps me sane and getting rid of things like that is a really bad idea.
05/05/2012
Voir Voir
I really strongly disagree with you that Marijuana "makes people more careless with their lives". People who are careless with their lives are careless with them. Nothing MAKES them careless; they just choose to succumb to impulse instead of taking responsibility.

I think Marijuana should be legalized it has way more uses than the harm it could do not to mention that if it is made available through legal, controlled environment then it reduces the number of people coming into contact with violent people (gangs drugdealers and the like who are apt to offer them hard drugs)

Psychedelics are idk... Technically, Weed is a psychedelic but we don't really think about it because I've never heard of anyone really hallucinating after smoking / ingesting it. But also, Psychs can cause a mental break and have more lasting damage on he nerves etc. And they run the risk of someone freaking out because their trip is too extreme and hurting someone.

I... dunno that anyone could say they want ALL drugs legalized. Those two up there are one thing; relatively harmless etc. But when we start talking about Ecstasy, Meth, Sherm (formaldehyde), Cocaine / Crack, Opium / Heroin, Acid LSD/LSA, Peyote... that's another level ya'know? Even though they do dish out Morphine like no body's business and Valium isn't much better e_e

Ecstasy has no set recipe; it's either based with Cocaine or Meth or Heroine and mixed with "Molly" and shit tons of other chemicals are added in. It also eats away at your brain, just like Meth does and zaps your body of vitamins and shit and can cause your Serotonin to bottom out leaving you pretty much a depressed zombie. Sherm swells the brain and can cause bleeding not to mention it's an embalming fluid. Lean is pretty much cough syrup.

What about Cocaine? Especially to the person above who said they think "all drugs that grow organically should be legalized"
Opium comes from poppy seeds - Cocaine from Cocoa plant. They grow organically but would you really want these legalized? Melt coke down and mix in baking soda and then crystalize it and there's you some crack to smoke.

I think drugs should be examined for benefits vs. harm and how much they could help the economy. Alcohol will never be made illegal again cuz it went so bad back in the Prohibition, neither will Cigarettes because more people smoke them than smoke weed. And the government probably won't legalize weed because they aren't worried about the economy so much as retaining their own power and filling their pockets. And Legalization, just like Gay Marriage, makes a useful topic to use to distract the masses from what's really going on and get them fighting over something while they strip away basic rights and manipulate their way through Presidential etc. Campaigns.
05/05/2012
Vegan Silk Vegan Silk
I think post should be legal no question.

I think that addiction to drugs should be addressed as public health issue, not a criminal one.
05/05/2012
PussyPlayground PussyPlayground
Ill take the bud please!
05/05/2012
asphyxia asphyxia
After reading about Portugal's success decriminalizing all drugs, I am a fierce advocate for implementing similar policies in the US and in the rest of the world.

Unfortunately, the American "powers that be" are too heavily invested in the drug trade and in private-run prisons (incarceration for profit) for this to ever be taken seriously over here. It's sad because greed always wins out over things that will benefit society.

I'm against the government meddling in most things. That doesn't mean I'm against social programs or other things that actually help people. I'm all for things like the EPA, Head Start, WIC, TANF, etc. These types of things are frequently the only ones our conservative overlords (I don't think dems are much different than the repubs) want to mess with, while they scream and yell when anyone mentions increasing taxes on millionaires. Hypocrites. Sorry... bit of a tangent.

It's funny how something like Tylenol (AKA: paracetamol or acetaminophen) can be purchased over the counter, but will kill you faster than a pound of marijuana, but you don't see anyone trying to do anything about THAT. Why? Because industry OWNS the government. I know that this might sound a little hyperbolic, or even like a conspiracy-theory, and for the sake of keeping this thread on topic and not cluttering it up with an excessively long missive to justify my assertions, I'll just say that I have excellent support for it and I'd be happy to go into detail with you, if you'd care to message me.

So, TLDR: Decriminalize all "illicit" drugs!
05/07/2012
Terri69 Terri69
It's been years (decades) since I've done it but I think pot should be legalized.
05/07/2012
cryinglightning86 cryinglightning86
I think all drugs should be legal. That doesn't mean everybody should use them, just that it shouldn't be up to anybody else what you do to your body. Government control of substances and the people that opt to use them is essentially turning what is a health issue and a social issue into a criminal issue. The illegal status of drugs seems to cause more problems than the drugs themselves.

Maybe I'm a bit naive, but wouldn't the violent crime surrounding drugs decrease if they were no longer illegal?
06/23/2012
Sundae Sparkles Sundae Sparkles
Quote:
Originally posted by ViVix
I've seen way too many people argue for marijuana when they're practically mentally retarded off of the brain cells they've killed. I don't mean to be offensive, but this even includes my own family and my deadbeat baby's daddy.
wow...
I don't trust anyone who says baby's daddy
06/24/2012
Sundae Sparkles Sundae Sparkles
Quote:
Originally posted by ViVix
I've seen way too many people argue for marijuana when they're practically mentally retarded off of the brain cells they've killed. I don't mean to be offensive, but this even includes my own family and my deadbeat baby's daddy.
wow...
I don't trust anyone who says baby's daddy
06/24/2012
Sundae Sparkles Sundae Sparkles
Quote:
Originally posted by ViVix
I've seen way too many people argue for marijuana when they're practically mentally retarded off of the brain cells they've killed. I don't mean to be offensive, but this even includes my own family and my deadbeat baby's daddy.
wow...
I don't trust anyone who says baby's daddy
06/24/2012
Sundae Sparkles Sundae Sparkles
Yeah I just spammed that.
I guess its bc I'm a big ol' pot head with all them dead brain cells and all

I'm personally for mdma assisted therapy
& the legalization of Marijuana
06/24/2012
Sangsara Sangsara
Medicinal marijuana I'm for. Exstacy should've used by psychiatrists. Safe injection sites are important. Come and speed should go to hell and narcotic meds should be more closey monitored like some triplicate prescriptions.
06/24/2012
Allstars316 Allstars316
Sure I think some should. But people shouldn't go overboard on taking them.
06/24/2012
TheGreat TheGreat
Drug law reform is definitely needed. We're feeding the prison industrial complex with minor drug offenders here in the U.S. that's causing us to spend over twice as much on prisons than we spend on our schools. It's sad.
08/08/2012
Modern^Spank^Anthem Modern^Spank^Anthem
tricky topic
08/08/2012
GenderSexplorations GenderSexplorations
I definitely think at least some drugs should be made legal. Those with low addiction rates and low side effects should be made available in the same manner as tobacco products. And especially those that could have medical applications, those should be available and covered by insurance. This includes, but is not limited to, marijuana. As for the 'use it once and you have major dopamine receptor damage' drugs like meth? I think those should stay illegal. But that's just me.
08/08/2012
gsfanatic gsfanatic
I think if we had a board of medical experts examine and come up with a policy, based on the baseline bodily harm of tobacco, there'd be a lot more drugs available. It'd mean the government could make money taxing them instead of spending money trying to hunt down users
08/09/2012
Anne Anne
The only reason why pot is illegal and is because there isn't a way yet to test it in our system. I strongly believe that pot has medical benefits, not only to those who are ill, but those who are struggling from anxiety as well. The only longterm effects they've found apparently is that it causes some sexual side effects to men later on in life, but that's with prolonged use. If you think about all the anti-depressants we take, most of those haven't been around for a long time... we are uncertain those are damaging to us in the long run. Pot even doesn't make me lazy, contrary to what some people state it does... infact, it makes me want to go out and do what I need to do, as long as I'm not operating heavy machinery while I'm smoking it.

I have always been a fan of non-synthetic remedies anyways... anything that is made by man scares me a little, like meth, cocaine, addictive painkillers...
08/09/2012
amazon amazon
It should all be re-evaluated.
09/05/2012
Virgingasms Virgingasms
I really think legalizing drugs would take away a lot of their appeal, since they wouldn't be taboo any more, making them less attractive to the people who want to do them for that reason. I think people are smart enough to decide for themselves and we should vote on what drugs to legalize. For example, my state just legalized marijuana and most of what people have been talking about is how it's going to create new jobs and bring in a lot of tax money.
11/23/2012
The Mother of a SiNner The Mother of a SiNner
Quote:
Originally posted by DreamWolf
We all know the disadvantages of several (or some of us, all of the) drugs, and advantages of some of them... Here I mean the ones which aren't used for legal medical purposes...

Of course COUNTLESS legal drugs are more harmful than useful ...
I think more ppl get hurt drinkng then they do smoking pot
11/23/2012
kitty1949 kitty1949
Weed for everyone, I say
11/23/2012
Ivanna Ivanna
I dont do drugs and do not think any should be legal. I am just going to leave it at that
11/23/2012
AHubbyof2SexualMinds AHubbyof2SexualMinds
I'm not someone who does drugs at all. Even in college I only tried weed a couple of times before I realized it wasn't for me. I would be in favor of weed being legalized because it could be regulated and protect those buying the product with quality standards and such. The rest are too dangerous too me. Only my two cents, no offense meant to anyone.
11/23/2012
Rod Ronald Rod Ronald
I would say weed and thats it
11/23/2012
Mrs.Tee Mrs.Tee
Quote:
Originally posted by DreamWolf
We all know the disadvantages of several (or some of us, all of the) drugs, and advantages of some of them... Here I mean the ones which aren't used for legal medical purposes...

Of course COUNTLESS legal drugs are more harmful than useful ...
Nodrug should be legalized, its pointless
11/27/2012
Cat E. Cat E.
I don't think drugs should be legalized, period. They're illegal for a reason.
11/27/2012
wicked weasel wicked weasel
Weed is already legal in some states, I say why dont we just
fully legalized it...
11/27/2012
edeneve edeneve
I think weed ought to be legalized and treated the same as alcohol use.
11/27/2012
Lover of Leather Lover of Leather
Legalize pot, the world would be a much more relaxed place. It would be a much better substitute for the meds that are currently being prescribed for stress and anxiety.
11/27/2012
Cream in the Cupcake Cream in the Cupcake
It's no ones business (especially the governments) to tell anyone how to live. It's a form of control and is a victimless crime.
11/27/2012
alexjewels alexjewels
Only some drugs should be legalized.
02/08/2013
Sima-pusya Sima-pusya
We, the people should decide such things!
02/12/2013
Eugler Eugler
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Originally posted by Sima-pusya
We, the people should decide such things!
second this.
02/12/2013
higs higs
I think we got bigger things to worry about
02/12/2013
underHim underHim
I LOVE the movie reefer madness, it is hillarious. I do not think pot should be illegal, see many worse drunks than pot heads. I personally rarely drink and have never smoked pot (or done any drugs) but I do not really care if other people do.
02/12/2013
lulz lulz
We're not children, we don't need big brother telling us what we can and can't do.
02/12/2013
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