So I just heard that President Obama made the decision not to release the pictures of the deceased Osama bin laden to the American public.
To release the pictures or not?
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Would you have wanted to see the pictures of Osama bin laden?
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Do you think President Obama made the right decision in keeping the pictures confidential?
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If the pictures were available, would you want to see them?
05/04/2011
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Mentally no, I wouldn't want to. However, it's almost like a car wreck that I'm sure I wouldn't be able NOT to look.
Originally posted by
meganthomas
If the pictures were available, would you want to see them?
05/04/2011
I could care less either way as long as he is really dead
05/04/2011
I'm sure I have seen worse, but frankly I don't really care.
The 'victory' is meaningless except to the flag-waving, mouth-breathing idiot members of the public who don't care about what the whole stupid war cost in lives elsewhere; they just wanna see the brown guy dead.
The 'victory' is meaningless except to the flag-waving, mouth-breathing idiot members of the public who don't care about what the whole stupid war cost in lives elsewhere; they just wanna see the brown guy dead.
05/04/2011
yes i would
05/04/2011
Just give me the DNA proof and I'm all good.
05/04/2011
he definitely should
05/04/2011
No thanks, I'd rather not O.o
05/04/2011
I heard the pictures are too graphic to release, so I think they made the right decision.
05/04/2011
I wouldn't want to see. He was bad enough looking when alive.
But also, I think his 'people' would love the idea of him being on display to the world. I don't think their evil-ness should be fed more.
I can understand why some people do want the proof - wasn't there a claim a few years ago that they had gotten him but then turned out to be wrong?????
But also, I think his 'people' would love the idea of him being on display to the world. I don't think their evil-ness should be fed more.
I can understand why some people do want the proof - wasn't there a claim a few years ago that they had gotten him but then turned out to be wrong?????
05/04/2011
i think he should release them, not doing so immediately is understandable but i think it should be done
05/04/2011
yes
05/04/2011
I wouldn't want to see them.
05/04/2011
Yes I would want to see them. I have a problem believing anything the government tells us anymore. I would want to see it to believe it.
05/05/2011
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I totally agree with this statement!
Originally posted by
married with children
Yes I would want to see them. I have a problem believing anything the government tells us anymore. I would want to see it to believe it.
05/05/2011
I think he should release them so people have the option to see if they really want to. Seeing is believing.
05/05/2011
I think in this case they should show at least one pic...maybe not even a full one if it's really that graphic.But everything was done so fast and so strangely that many people have questions.
05/05/2011
No. I think the desire to look at anyone's dead body is pretty sick. If it was yours, would you want millions of people looking and power-tripping over your death?
05/05/2011
Releasing the pictures will still not silence the conspiracy types. He is gone and lets go on.
05/05/2011
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I agree lol
Originally posted by
daniel and frances
Mentally no, I wouldn't want to. However, it's almost like a car wreck that I'm sure I wouldn't be able NOT to look.
05/05/2011
I would never want to see them. That man caused so much terror and destruction of human life, there is no reason for me to ever look at his sorry image (dead or alive) ever again.
05/05/2011
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Only because he was such an ass in his disregard of human life. I would want to see them and know that he wont ever cause anyone else harm.
Originally posted by
meganthomas
If the pictures were available, would you want to see them?
05/05/2011
Really interesting responses so far, thanks! it's a pretty close split!
05/05/2011
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^This. It just seems really odd that they'd keep it all so hidden after how they paraded around the pictures of Saddam after his execution and pictures of Osama's "generals" following predator drone attacks.
Originally posted by
married with children
Yes I would want to see them. I have a problem believing anything the government tells us anymore. I would want to see it to believe it.
05/05/2011
No, I'd really rather they not for fear of backlash
05/05/2011
No point in seeing them.
05/06/2011
I so want to see them, but I also believe that big chief made the right call in not releasing them. Stuff like that doesn't bother me, but then agian it was my job to do the same kinds of missions, just not as glamorous missions as this one. I celebrated all night, and I made it into like a miny holiday for me the next day.
05/06/2011
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Same here, DNA is the most important proof, I have no interest in seeing a dead man's face.
Originally posted by
zizfaye
Just give me the DNA proof and I'm all good.
05/06/2011
How can they make sure they shot the real thing? Did they have DNA samples previously? If so then how?
I heard he was shot twice in the head. Well rather just not show that to the public. Showing it without head will only raise suspicion. Showing a twice headshot image not only can be unrecognisable but disturbing to the general public.
I heard he was shot twice in the head. Well rather just not show that to the public. Showing it without head will only raise suspicion. Showing a twice headshot image not only can be unrecognisable but disturbing to the general public.
05/06/2011
yes
05/07/2011
It shouldnt be about whether we would want to see them or not, its a question of when the hell did the government openly say they have something but refuse to prove it to us? Of course there is always propaganda and cover ups throughout history, but at this point it is blatent censorship. Not even disquised censorship, but its slap-you-in-the-face censorship.
and Yes Mr. President, im a big girl and I can decide for myself if I would like to see the photos, you dont need to decide for me...THANKKKSSSS!
and Yes Mr. President, im a big girl and I can decide for myself if I would like to see the photos, you dont need to decide for me...THANKKKSSSS!
05/07/2011
I think I am torn on this.
On one hand, I don't think I want to see a brutal crime scene photo. I just don't need to lose my lunch over that.
On the other hand, I get that "car wreck" feeling when I hear about it..
On one hand, I don't think I want to see a brutal crime scene photo. I just don't need to lose my lunch over that.
On the other hand, I get that "car wreck" feeling when I hear about it..
05/08/2011
I probably wouldn't look at them. But, it would probably put a lot of people at ease just knowing the pics are there
05/08/2011
I would love to see them
05/11/2011
Personally I don't care either way, but would almost feel like would cause more retaliation if they did.
06/19/2011
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I read the DNA samples were from relatives. So in theory all the really know for sure is that they killed him or someone related to him
Originally posted by
Howells
How can they make sure they shot the real thing? Did they have DNA samples previously? If so then how?
I heard he was shot twice in the head. Well rather just not show that to the public. Showing it without head will only raise suspicion. ... more
I heard he was shot twice in the head. Well rather just not show that to the public. Showing it without head will only raise suspicion. ... more
How can they make sure they shot the real thing? Did they have DNA samples previously? If so then how?
I heard he was shot twice in the head. Well rather just not show that to the public. Showing it without head will only raise suspicion. Showing a twice headshot image not only can be unrecognisable but disturbing to the general public. less
I heard he was shot twice in the head. Well rather just not show that to the public. Showing it without head will only raise suspicion. Showing a twice headshot image not only can be unrecognisable but disturbing to the general public. less
06/19/2011
show the pics
06/20/2011
No. Not so much out of being weirded out, but because it's the decent thing to do. Besides, showcasing pictures of a dead militant is a *great* way of decreasing tensions in the Middle East...
06/20/2011
I think they should be released. Just because they are too graphic shouldn't be a reason to keep them hidden.
06/20/2011
If they were released i'd want to see them out of curiosity, but I personally don't think they should be because it could seem disrespectful to other Muslim communities, and make them very very angry with us.
06/20/2011
As a medic, I would definitely be curious about seeing the pictures.
06/20/2011
I TOTALLY WANT TO SEE THEM.
06/26/2011
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sure why not im semi morbid tho i like seeing all sorts of dead famous people pics
Originally posted by
meganthomas
If the pictures were available, would you want to see them?
06/27/2011
I would look.
07/10/2011
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Same here--some images i could do without
Originally posted by
The Curious Couple
I wouldn't want to see them.
07/10/2011
It could be interesting to see, but I wouldn't really want to...
He was a horrible man, but he's gone now, degrading him further would just make us lesser.
He was a horrible man, but he's gone now, degrading him further would just make us lesser.
08/07/2011
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If the pics are too graphic and would leave nightmares, then No. I do not. If he was simply shot once and dead, sure, share. But chances are he has tons of bullet holes in him. And I would not want to see that.
Originally posted by
meganthomas
If the pictures were available, would you want to see them?
08/15/2011
I wouldnt want to see them, but i think people should have the option
08/26/2011
Personally, I wouldn't have wanted to see them, but I definitely think they should have been made available to the public, as proof.
08/26/2011
The reaction of Al Qaeda (i.e. not denying his death) is more than proof enough for me, Cheetah.
08/27/2011
I'm sure some would want to see, but I'm one of those ones who wouldn't want to. I don't think I could look at them.
10/16/2011
I kinda wanna see. I mean, I wish I could see him in person. Photos can be dictored. I mean all the lies in the government, how do we know he's REALLY dead.
10/16/2011
I dont know but I'm leaning more towards would want to see.
10/16/2011
Yes I would...
10/16/2011
I would.
08/22/2012
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yes
Originally posted by
meganthomas
If the pictures were available, would you want to see them?
08/22/2012
Dont really care.
08/22/2012
I actually don't want to see them.
10/13/2012
I don't really care.
10/14/2012
Actually I agree with brittany8612 actually, the last thing we need to do is offend more people by rubbing salt on what could be a deep emotional wound for some.
Pissing terrorists (and possibly other people within the Muslim community) off more probably isn't the greatest idea.
But I do understand people wanting solid proof that he's really dead considering all the secrets the government keeps from us already.
(Some of which might be more for our own good than theirs I suppose.)
Pissing terrorists (and possibly other people within the Muslim community) off more probably isn't the greatest idea.
But I do understand people wanting solid proof that he's really dead considering all the secrets the government keeps from us already.
(Some of which might be more for our own good than theirs I suppose.)
10/14/2012
i really don't care either way.
12/18/2012
No not interested.
12/18/2012
What's the benefit to seeing them? There's no good in it.
12/18/2012
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Yes, I would
Originally posted by
meganthomas
If the pictures were available, would you want to see them?
12/18/2012
Don't care.
12/18/2012
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Yes
Originally posted by
meganthomas
If the pictures were available, would you want to see them?
12/18/2012
I'd look at them but I really don't care if they are released or not. I just think it's a bit silly that the US got all gun happy and 'Merica over the killing of this one man. You can never trust the government. Even if the photos were released you'd have a wide amount of people going "they're fake! They're fake!"
12/19/2012
I wouldn't want to see the pictures, personally. Seems like a bit much.
12/19/2012
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Yea agreed^^^^
Originally posted by
daniel and frances
Mentally no, I wouldn't want to. However, it's almost like a car wreck that I'm sure I wouldn't be able NOT to look.
12/19/2012
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Not sure does it matter anyway?
Originally posted by
meganthomas
If the pictures were available, would you want to see them?
01/03/2013
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Yes, I feel like they are just covering it up and I'd like to see the proof in order to believe it!
Originally posted by
meganthomas
If the pictures were available, would you want to see them?
01/04/2013
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I'm for releasing.
Originally posted by
meganthomas
If the pictures were available, would you want to see them?
01/04/2013
not sure
01/04/2013
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Considering possible retaliation or any other possible effects, did he do the right thing?
05/04/2011
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To me this was a responsible and mature decision. We don't need to plaster bragging rights all over the place; there's no need to gloat.
05/04/2011
It's hard to say how it would affect many Muslims if the pictures were released. A normal Muslim might think it's indecent and be incensed. However, it might demoralize many terrorists or those sympathetic to them. Releasing photographs of American soldiers (Mogadishu Black Hawk down, Daniel Pearl, Blackwater contractors, etc) seems to have a demoralizing effect upon American citizens who seem to have a very light stomach for the casualties of war. Demoralization has been a common strategy for warfare since before Medieval times. Since people are always free to react however they want, it's hard to say what would have happened. Nobody knows the future...
05/04/2011
You are right about not needing to gloat. But his speech was filled with "spiking the football" words and comments. His going to ground zero is in part, a type of gloating. If we are worried about pissing off terrorist's to a point of causing americans to be in danger, we need to remember that terrorist have been killing americans since the 70's. They will continue killing in the name of their god, with or with out any help from our government.
05/05/2011
I think the pictures should be kept confidential because I don't want to inflame others or see them used a terrorist recruiting tools and propaganda for the future. It's time to let Bin Laden go and move on. The mission to protect Americans from terrorist plot continues and that (as well as supporting our military men, women, and their families) is where we need to focus our attention now.
05/05/2011
I think it was the best idea to do.
05/06/2011
He should have released them to alleviate some of the doubt behind it. It just seems really fishy when you put everything together. The election is next November, and it wont be long before Obama starts to campaign. I'm sure being the president to "catch" Bin Laden will hugely help his popularity. For the CIA (of all agencies) to release that they've got Osama, they confirmed it, and immediately dumped him to 20 000 leagues under the sea where no one can ever find the body it just seems fishy (no pun intended). I think pictures would have helped alleviate that.
05/06/2011
Despite whatever terror he might have caused the world, he was still a human. No one needs to have their dead body gawked over. It's a weird concept to begin with.
Good on Mr. Obama's decision!
Good on Mr. Obama's decision!
06/15/2011
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If it was teh right thing then hed of shown them i have ahard time believing anything that comes out of that mans mouth
Originally posted by
meganthomas
Considering possible retaliation or any other possible effects, did he do the right thing?
06/27/2011
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Agreed. But i think it was a difficult decision and i think any decision any president made would have been criticized no matter what it was. Im glad i didnt have to make the decision.
Originally posted by
MaryExy
To me this was a responsible and mature decision. We don't need to plaster bragging rights all over the place; there's no need to gloat.
07/10/2011
I don't see this as a bragging rights issue, but as a kind of sweeping under the rug.
All forms of evidence are getting less and less accessible, it seems.
All forms of evidence are getting less and less accessible, it seems.
07/17/2011
Some proof of the deed would have been nice, but I'm not sure people would have believed picture evidence.
08/26/2011
President Obama made the right choice, in my opinion.
The community needs to be able to put some trust in the president. Some trust in all of the countries and even Al Qaeda saying that he is, indeed, dead.
If people don't believe he's dead, they wouldn't be satisfied with pictures, either. Take birthers, for instance - they insisted on seeing Obama's birth certificate. They weren't satisfied with the fact that in order to get a job or a passport or a driver's license or any other number of things that he'd have to have shown his birth certificate to other people. When it was released to the public, they still weren't satisfied.
People would just cry that the images were photoshopped or that it wasn't really bin Laden or whatever. Conspiracy theorists are never satisfied.
The community needs to be able to put some trust in the president. Some trust in all of the countries and even Al Qaeda saying that he is, indeed, dead.
If people don't believe he's dead, they wouldn't be satisfied with pictures, either. Take birthers, for instance - they insisted on seeing Obama's birth certificate. They weren't satisfied with the fact that in order to get a job or a passport or a driver's license or any other number of things that he'd have to have shown his birth certificate to other people. When it was released to the public, they still weren't satisfied.
People would just cry that the images were photoshopped or that it wasn't really bin Laden or whatever. Conspiracy theorists are never satisfied.
10/16/2011
I think he did the right thing, although there are prob many people that would like to see them...
10/16/2011
I think he did the right thing.
03/23/2012
I'm not sure.
08/22/2012
Probably yeah
08/22/2012
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not sure don't have all the info he had.
Originally posted by
meganthomas
Considering possible retaliation or any other possible effects, did he do the right thing?
08/22/2012
Only idiots really diagree with the idea of not releasing them.
12/18/2012
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Nope, I don't think so.
Originally posted by
meganthomas
Considering possible retaliation or any other possible effects, did he do the right thing?
12/18/2012
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Nope.
Originally posted by
meganthomas
Considering possible retaliation or any other possible effects, did he do the right thing?
12/18/2012
I don't think they should have been thrown in our faces but if people want to see them they should have a right to.
12/20/2012
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No I dont think so
Originally posted by
meganthomas
Considering possible retaliation or any other possible effects, did he do the right thing?
01/04/2013
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