I know it hasn't been seriously considered but its always a possibility.
Would you consider leaving the US if birth control was outlawed?
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Part of the reason I went ahead with my tubal ligation - I wasn't sure how much longer it'd be available through public health.
05/20/2012
I have considered leaving the US, but birth control being outlawed wouldn't play a part in that.
Birth control might get outlawed in a state, but overall it can't be. It'll be unconstitutional. And after some women's rights group fighting for it. That would be over turned. The only way it will completely go away is if it's found to be harmful.
Birth control might get outlawed in a state, but overall it can't be. It'll be unconstitutional. And after some women's rights group fighting for it. That would be over turned. The only way it will completely go away is if it's found to be harmful.
05/20/2012
I don't see that ever being an issue. We're on our way to a vasectomy anyway so it'll be a moot point for us soon.
05/20/2012
NO.
While I totally believe in women's right's to birth control, I don't think leaving the country is the answer. We need people here in the USA to help change what we don't like. Just leaving the country won't make the US a better place to be.
If birth control was outlawed here, I'd join protests, write letter, bang down doors.. I'd do everything that was in my power to do to change things.
While I totally believe in women's right's to birth control, I don't think leaving the country is the answer. We need people here in the USA to help change what we don't like. Just leaving the country won't make the US a better place to be.
If birth control was outlawed here, I'd join protests, write letter, bang down doors.. I'd do everything that was in my power to do to change things.
05/20/2012
i already want to flee the states..
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I agree, it has to go through each individual state, and having all states ban it would not happen. There really is no good reason to ban it unless like Beck suggested, it was harmful to us. I don't think anybody wants to see this world's population blow up any more than it already has. Abortion would become a regular thing unless that, too, was banned. Oh god, things would be an absolute mess.
Originally posted by
Beck
I have considered leaving the US, but birth control being outlawed wouldn't play a part in that.
Birth control might get outlawed in a state, but overall it can't be. It'll be unconstitutional. And after some women's rights ... more
Birth control might get outlawed in a state, but overall it can't be. It'll be unconstitutional. And after some women's rights ... more
I have considered leaving the US, but birth control being outlawed wouldn't play a part in that.
Birth control might get outlawed in a state, but overall it can't be. It'll be unconstitutional. And after some women's rights group fighting for it. That would be over turned. The only way it will completely go away is if it's found to be harmful. less
Birth control might get outlawed in a state, but overall it can't be. It'll be unconstitutional. And after some women's rights group fighting for it. That would be over turned. The only way it will completely go away is if it's found to be harmful. less
It is an interesting suggestion, but there's no way it'll actually happen. But, I don't think leaving the country is the solution if it did.
05/20/2012
No I wouldn't leave the US
05/20/2012
No. I don't use birth control, anyway.
But mostly I would stay here because leaving doesn't help. Each individual has at least some power to change their country. Moving away instead of fighting to fix things doesn't help anything, and would allow thousands of unwanted pregnancies and the deterioration of women's health due to PCOS, endometriosis, etc.
However, if we get to the point where we allow it to become illegal, then I'm sure the U.S. has way more problems than just that.
But mostly I would stay here because leaving doesn't help. Each individual has at least some power to change their country. Moving away instead of fighting to fix things doesn't help anything, and would allow thousands of unwanted pregnancies and the deterioration of women's health due to PCOS, endometriosis, etc.
However, if we get to the point where we allow it to become illegal, then I'm sure the U.S. has way more problems than just that.
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agree
Originally posted by
Beck
I have considered leaving the US, but birth control being outlawed wouldn't play a part in that.
Birth control might get outlawed in a state, but overall it can't be. It'll be unconstitutional. And after some women's rights ... more
Birth control might get outlawed in a state, but overall it can't be. It'll be unconstitutional. And after some women's rights ... more
I have considered leaving the US, but birth control being outlawed wouldn't play a part in that.
Birth control might get outlawed in a state, but overall it can't be. It'll be unconstitutional. And after some women's rights group fighting for it. That would be over turned. The only way it will completely go away is if it's found to be harmful. less
Birth control might get outlawed in a state, but overall it can't be. It'll be unconstitutional. And after some women's rights group fighting for it. That would be over turned. The only way it will completely go away is if it's found to be harmful. less
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THIS!
Originally posted by
Red Vinyl Kitty
NO.
While I totally believe in women's right's to birth control, I don't think leaving the country is the answer. We need people here in the USA to help change what we don't like. Just leaving the country won't make the ... more
While I totally believe in women's right's to birth control, I don't think leaving the country is the answer. We need people here in the USA to help change what we don't like. Just leaving the country won't make the ... more
NO.
While I totally believe in women's right's to birth control, I don't think leaving the country is the answer. We need people here in the USA to help change what we don't like. Just leaving the country won't make the US a better place to be.
If birth control was outlawed here, I'd join protests, write letter, bang down doors.. I'd do everything that was in my power to do to change things. less
While I totally believe in women's right's to birth control, I don't think leaving the country is the answer. We need people here in the USA to help change what we don't like. Just leaving the country won't make the US a better place to be.
If birth control was outlawed here, I'd join protests, write letter, bang down doors.. I'd do everything that was in my power to do to change things. less
It isn't going to happen. Santorum can whine on all he wants, birth control is legal and part of everyday American life.
Plus, emigrating to an other country is a LOT harder than most people think it is. I had some very idealistic friends who insisted they were going to leave the country if Bush got re-elected to a second term. When they started looking for a country to take them, everywhere from Sweden to England to Canada and more, NO BODY wanted any of them. They couldn't have gone to an other country if they tried.
It's not so easy to be an Expat.
05/20/2012
No because I don't use birth control for protection against pregnancy.
05/20/2012
No but I sure as hell will be out protesting.
05/20/2012
Defiantly! I would not consider myself a citizen of a country where women's health rights are being restricted to such a degree. I'm a married, broke college student! Babies and tubal litigation are NOT an option for me!
05/20/2012
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Agreed. If everyone who disagrees leaves, nothing will change. I'd be with the protesters throwing buckets of menstrual blood on politicians.
Originally posted by
Red Vinyl Kitty
NO.
While I totally believe in women's right's to birth control, I don't think leaving the country is the answer. We need people here in the USA to help change what we don't like. Just leaving the country won't make the ... more
While I totally believe in women's right's to birth control, I don't think leaving the country is the answer. We need people here in the USA to help change what we don't like. Just leaving the country won't make the ... more
NO.
While I totally believe in women's right's to birth control, I don't think leaving the country is the answer. We need people here in the USA to help change what we don't like. Just leaving the country won't make the US a better place to be.
If birth control was outlawed here, I'd join protests, write letter, bang down doors.. I'd do everything that was in my power to do to change things. less
While I totally believe in women's right's to birth control, I don't think leaving the country is the answer. We need people here in the USA to help change what we don't like. Just leaving the country won't make the US a better place to be.
If birth control was outlawed here, I'd join protests, write letter, bang down doors.. I'd do everything that was in my power to do to change things. less
05/20/2012
If it was more than just birth control, then yeah, probably. I live two hours away from Canada, so I'd probably head up there
05/20/2012
I heard about it as well from my husband. We are not into condoms so our only option(abstinence yea right!) is birth control. I doubt the banning of birth control on store shelves will ever come to fruition. But if it did, Im pretty sure there would be a black market all over birth control. If alcohol was illegal during the prohibition age, and it was the peak time of alcohol usage, I am we would find some way to secure birth control. To me having this whole argument is a bad sign though. Would we ever leave the United States? I highly doubt it, the only way I can imagine this if we decided to go on a long vacation.
05/20/2012
I already want to leave the State I live in because of the crazy bills they have passed regarding when life begins and other anti abortion propaganda. I agree in fighting, but there comes a point when it becomes like fighting an avalanche and it's getting their for me. So yes if that ever came about as to how the majority of voting US citizens felt and voted I would be out of here.
I am already an Expat and know how hard it is to move countries, but I'd do it again to protect my right to chose.
Emerlyn, I'd keep an eye on Canada, I'm an Expat from there and the federal government is currently attempting some of the same things that are happening in the US in regards to birth control and abortion. North of the boarder may not be so friendly soon
I am already an Expat and know how hard it is to move countries, but I'd do it again to protect my right to chose.
Emerlyn, I'd keep an eye on Canada, I'm an Expat from there and the federal government is currently attempting some of the same things that are happening in the US in regards to birth control and abortion. North of the boarder may not be so friendly soon
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You and me both. I would love to leave the USA. and go to Israel. But, I have family that we care for so it will probebly never happen. I did not vote because BC is not an issue that I would leave for. I want to leave because of the direction the USA is going. Also, the may soon come when it is not safe for Jewish people to live here. IDK, just my opion.
Originally posted by
Beck
I have considered leaving the US, but birth control being outlawed wouldn't play a part in that.
Birth control might get outlawed in a state, but overall it can't be. It'll be unconstitutional. And after some women's rights ... more
Birth control might get outlawed in a state, but overall it can't be. It'll be unconstitutional. And after some women's rights ... more
I have considered leaving the US, but birth control being outlawed wouldn't play a part in that.
Birth control might get outlawed in a state, but overall it can't be. It'll be unconstitutional. And after some women's rights group fighting for it. That would be over turned. The only way it will completely go away is if it's found to be harmful. less
Birth control might get outlawed in a state, but overall it can't be. It'll be unconstitutional. And after some women's rights group fighting for it. That would be over turned. The only way it will completely go away is if it's found to be harmful. less
05/20/2012
Things being illegal has reduced their availability.
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I would love to flee also. It is not as hard as you think. The big problem is trying to not get caught when your visa is up. That is the issue. But it really depends on what country you are considering.
Originally posted by
P'Gell
THIS!
It isn't going to happen. Santorum can whine on all he wants, birth control is legal and part of everyday American life.
Plus, emigrating to an other country is a LOT harder than most people think it is. I had some very ... more
It isn't going to happen. Santorum can whine on all he wants, birth control is legal and part of everyday American life.
Plus, emigrating to an other country is a LOT harder than most people think it is. I had some very ... more
THIS!
It isn't going to happen. Santorum can whine on all he wants, birth control is legal and part of everyday American life.
Plus, emigrating to an other country is a LOT harder than most people think it is. I had some very idealistic friends who insisted they were going to leave the country if Bush got re-elected to a second term. When they started looking for a country to take them, everywhere from Sweden to England to Canada and more, NO BODY wanted any of them. They couldn't have gone to an other country if they tried.
It's not so easy to be an Expat. less
It isn't going to happen. Santorum can whine on all he wants, birth control is legal and part of everyday American life.
Plus, emigrating to an other country is a LOT harder than most people think it is. I had some very idealistic friends who insisted they were going to leave the country if Bush got re-elected to a second term. When they started looking for a country to take them, everywhere from Sweden to England to Canada and more, NO BODY wanted any of them. They couldn't have gone to an other country if they tried.
It's not so easy to be an Expat. less
05/20/2012
It'd get overturned quickly, and it is a democracy.
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No, I wouldn't.
Originally posted by
spineyogurt
I know it hasn't been seriously considered but its always a possibility.
05/20/2012
No. I'd be sad and disappointed, but I can't afford to leave the country.
05/20/2012
I'd be very, very tempted to, and if there was anyway for me to leave I probably would. Mostly because I have PCOS and while I would like to stay here and protest I wouldn't want to risk going months, or possibly longer, without birth control.
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Very few livable countries are accepting applicants for residency. In fact the country most easy to move to is... the USA.
Originally posted by
Loriandhubby
I would love to flee also. It is not as hard as you think. The big problem is trying to not get caught when your visa is up. That is the issue. But it really depends on what country you are considering.
I know people who went on and on about trying to leave the country when Bush won his second term. Not a one of them were granted a residency visa to ANY of the countries they applied to. Many didn't even bother to apply when they saw the difficulty of applying for residency visas.
It isn't easy to move somewhere else, most countries simply have very difficult residency requirements and are not accepting new residents.
"Not get caught when your visa is up" ???? How do you think other countries handle this kind of thing? Most don't allow you even a trial, you get deported or put in jail.
If people think they can just easily move to an other country, they will be very seriously surprised when they try. It's virtually impossible. UNLESS you can do a job that no one else in that country can do, have a LOT of money or do it illegally. And, Israel, as well as Canada, Sweden, Holland, England and most other countries Americans are likely to want to move to are all very careful and watchful about illegal aliens, more so than the USA, that's for sure.
05/20/2012
i suppose it mattered on how this came about. we're assuming a democracy, but birth control is so popular it would likely only be banned under a governmental takeover resulting in an authoritarian regime implementing their rule and abolishing all democracy. in the result of democracy being abolished in the united states i would probably leave. otherwise, no.
05/21/2012
nope...I'm an American girl
05/21/2012
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Very very tru3!
Originally posted by
Beck
I have considered leaving the US, but birth control being outlawed wouldn't play a part in that.
Birth control might get outlawed in a state, but overall it can't be. It'll be unconstitutional. And after some women's rights ... more
Birth control might get outlawed in a state, but overall it can't be. It'll be unconstitutional. And after some women's rights ... more
I have considered leaving the US, but birth control being outlawed wouldn't play a part in that.
Birth control might get outlawed in a state, but overall it can't be. It'll be unconstitutional. And after some women's rights group fighting for it. That would be over turned. The only way it will completely go away is if it's found to be harmful. less
Birth control might get outlawed in a state, but overall it can't be. It'll be unconstitutional. And after some women's rights group fighting for it. That would be over turned. The only way it will completely go away is if it's found to be harmful. less
05/21/2012
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I'm not far from Canada as it is
Originally posted by
spineyogurt
I know it hasn't been seriously considered but its always a possibility.
05/21/2012