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Contributor: Sammi Sammi
Hi everyone! First of all, thank you for all of your input about the EdenTasks program. We value your thoughts on how to make the program better and appreciate the comments, criticisms, and suggestions you've offered.

Since the program started, it's been very popular and we've found the number of editors to keep up with the reviews and make publishing go smoothly. In an effort to make the program more fair and available to more contributors in the community, we will be starting a rotation through the editors. What this means is that every few months, the current editors will be released and new editors will be approved to take their place. During each editing round, applications will be taken for the next group who wish to participate in EdenTasks. Anyone who is not an editor may apply or reapply to be considered for the next round.

Please let us know if you have any questions or suggestions. You can always message me or post them to this thread.

Thanks!
08/01/2011
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Contributor: Dawn (Lilac Distraction) Dawn (Lilac Distraction)
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Originally posted by Sammi
Hi everyone! First of all, thank you for all of your input about the EdenTasks program. We value your thoughts on how to make the program better and appreciate the comments, criticisms, and suggestions you've offered.

Since the program ... more
How long do the rotations last?
08/01/2011
Contributor: Kindred Kindred
Might I suggest a FAQ for new editors? There are some things that I think would be helpful to pass on to new editors without people having to re-learn to make the transition smoother each time.
08/01/2011
Contributor: BBW Talks Toys BBW Talks Toys
As someone who is very interested in editing, may I suggest a test for all potential editors? Some people think they are naturally good at grammar; but alas, this is not always the case.
08/01/2011
Contributor: BBW Talks Toys BBW Talks Toys
Sammi, I sent you a private message
08/01/2011
Contributor: LambChop LambChop
Hmmmm...
08/01/2011
Contributor: Sir Sir
Does that mean that people who were already editors will have to reapply later? Or that we never get to be editors again?
08/01/2011
Contributor: ~LaUr3n~ ~LaUr3n~
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Originally posted by Sir
Does that mean that people who were already editors will have to reapply later? Or that we never get to be editors again?
I was wondering if the rotation is automatic or we need to reapply every other month?
08/01/2011
Contributor: cherryredhead88 cherryredhead88
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Originally posted by Sir
Does that mean that people who were already editors will have to reapply later? Or that we never get to be editors again?
This. It was very hard for me to get into the program in the first place and I'm not really happy about the idea of having to constantly re apply and hoping that I get picked out of all the people who want to be one. Especially since I have been doing it for a while now.
08/01/2011
Contributor: Sammi Sammi
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Originally posted by Dawn (Lilac Distraction)
How long do the rotations last?
We're looking at a 3 month rotation, although with the current setup it may be shorter or longer than this.
08/01/2011
Contributor: Sammi Sammi
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Originally posted by Kindred
Might I suggest a FAQ for new editors? There are some things that I think would be helpful to pass on to new editors without people having to re-learn to make the transition smoother each time.
I think a FAQ is a good idea - there is a lot of information that would be helpful.
08/01/2011
Contributor: Sammi Sammi
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Originally posted by BBW Talks Toys
Sammi, I sent you a private message
Got it, and replied
08/01/2011
Contributor: Sammi Sammi
Sir, ~LaUr3n~, and Cherryredhead88, I'm grouping this answer since you have a similar question.

The idea with having people who are already editors reapply is to let us know that you're still interested in editing in the next rotation. There will be some who have previously participated who no longer want to be in the program, and by not reapplying they let us know they have no interest. This also gives us a chance to look through prior editing tasks to see how editors did during their previous participation to make sure they were doing a great job.
08/01/2011
Contributor: bluekaren bluekaren
I am really excited that this is opening up to people like me who really want to be in the program. I think some editor do a great job and I would love to be able to ask them questions. I also believe some editors do not do enough and need to be rotated.
08/01/2011
Contributor: bluekaren bluekaren
I think BBW has a good point and there should be some sort of grammar "test" for potential editors.
08/01/2011
Contributor: cherryredhead88 cherryredhead88
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Originally posted by Sammi
Sir, ~LaUr3n~, and Cherryredhead88, I'm grouping this answer since you have a similar question.

The idea with having people who are already editors reapply is to let us know that you're still interested in editing in the next rotation. ... more
So will it be as hard getting in for every rotation, or will this kind of be like the descriptive review program? I think it is a great idea in terms of being fair and giving every one a chance, I am just scared it will be tough to get back into. It took me 3 months to get accepted.

I will try and hold off on all my questions for the FAQ, thanks for clearing that first one up though
08/01/2011
Contributor: Sir Sir
For the test, why not give them a review with tons of errors, and rate the errors on a scale from 1 - 10 on difficulty? Ones that are really hard to catch are tens, and then less difficult are lower numbers. We would require the applicant to highlight any changes made, then compare it to the original and see how they did. Maybe? Yes, no?

Also, thank you, Sammi, for the response! That helps a lot!
08/01/2011
Contributor: Ajax Ajax
I think the rotations are a great idea! I also think new and old editors alike should have to reapply each round no matter what. That would be fairest. There are SO many contributors on Eden now; it's nice that more people will have a chance.

I'm surprised more editors don't vote on the reviews that they edit. They read and re-read the reviews their editing. I think it would be nice to see them voting too. I know that has nothing to do with this thread, but every time I see the little editor icons on reviews I wonder to myself why there are no editor votes.
08/01/2011
Contributor: BBW Talks Toys BBW Talks Toys
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Originally posted by cherryredhead88
So will it be as hard getting in for every rotation, or will this kind of be like the descriptive review program? I think it is a great idea in terms of being fair and giving every one a chance, I am just scared it will be tough to get back into. It ... more
I don't mean to sound bitchy, but there are some contributors who have applied several times over six month period only to be told "no, there are too many editors." Personally, I've applied twice. I like this idea because it gives others a chance to step up.

As much as I've seen complaints about how much work goes into editing and the quality of some of the reviews, I would think you would be more than happy to take a step back for a while and give some of us a taste of what it's really like from your end!

If you really enjoy editing, reapply. I don't see what the harm is in reapplying. I've done it!
08/01/2011
Contributor: DeliciousSurprise DeliciousSurprise
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Originally posted by Sir
For the test, why not give them a review with tons of errors, and rate the errors on a scale from 1 - 10 on difficulty? Ones that are really hard to catch are tens, and then less difficult are lower numbers. We would require the applicant to ... more
I mean, let the record show that I am, of course, against this whole idea.


That being said, I think that all editorial prospects should have to pass some kind of test, showing that they are able to edit effectively, efficiently, accurately... All while keeping the content of the review more or less untouched.

Yes, including those of us who are already editors. Mmhm.


But I also think that the ranking requirement for becoming an editor is a bit low, and I'd like to see it raised to 5.8 or 6.0, personally.
08/01/2011
Contributor: Sir Sir
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Originally posted by Ajax
I think the rotations are a great idea! I also think new and old editors alike should have to reapply each round no matter what. That would be fairest. There are SO many contributors on Eden now; it's nice that more people will have a chance. ... more
Sometimes, to be fully honest, I worry about voting on the review itself because I do not want the person to downvote me. I apologize, but I've had bad experiences with that in the past, so I'm constantly worried about voting on people's reviews.
08/01/2011
Contributor: DeliciousSurprise DeliciousSurprise
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Originally posted by Sir
Sometimes, to be fully honest, I worry about voting on the review itself because I do not want the person to downvote me. I apologize, but I've had bad experiences with that in the past, so I'm constantly worried about voting on people's reviews.
This is, more or less, why I'm often neglectful on voting, as well.
08/01/2011
Contributor: BBW Talks Toys BBW Talks Toys
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Originally posted by DeliciousSurprise
I mean, let the record show that I am, of course, against this whole idea.


That being said, I think that all editorial prospects should have to pass some kind of test, showing that they are able to edit effectively, efficiently, ... more
I'm curious why you're against it.
08/01/2011
Contributor: Ajax Ajax
I'm not a HUGE fan of the test idea. If it's something that needs to be done then so be it, but some people don't do well under pressure. While it would be a small test, the word test alone is enough to muddle some people. None of the current editors had to take a test to get in.

I'm not sure why, but I was under the impression that they evaluated potential editors based on the grammar in reviews the applicants had posted themselves. I could be very wrong here, but that's what's in my head.
08/01/2011
Contributor: Sir Sir
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Originally posted by DeliciousSurprise
This is, more or less, why I'm often neglectful on voting, as well.
Glad I'm not the only one. I was about to go off on a tangent, but I refrained from it because that is not what this topic is about.
08/01/2011
Contributor: Ajax Ajax
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Originally posted by Sir
Sometimes, to be fully honest, I worry about voting on the review itself because I do not want the person to downvote me. I apologize, but I've had bad experiences with that in the past, so I'm constantly worried about voting on people's reviews.
That's understandable. I've had that happen to me as well, which just plain sucks.
08/01/2011
Contributor: Sir Sir
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Originally posted by Ajax
I'm not a HUGE fan of the test idea. If it's something that needs to be done then so be it, but some people don't do well under pressure. While it would be a small test, the word test alone is enough to muddle some people. None of the ... more
It's not a test though, it's basic editing of grammar. If you look at it that way, then every review you edit will be a test, and that makes no sense whatsoever if you do not do well under pressure? Either way, I was just throwing out a suggestion since someone had stated an evaluation and I figured that would be the best route to take--to actually give the person a chance to show their skill level.
08/01/2011
Contributor: BBW Talks Toys BBW Talks Toys
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Originally posted by Ajax
I'm not a HUGE fan of the test idea. If it's something that needs to be done then so be it, but some people don't do well under pressure. While it would be a small test, the word test alone is enough to muddle some people. None of the ... more
Which I think is why it is important to raise the ranking to, at the very minimum, people whose reviews self-publish.

If there is no test, that should be the basic requirement. If reviews have good grammar and are self-publishing, then chances are they'll be able to identify poor grammar in others' reviews.
08/01/2011
Contributor: Ajax Ajax
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Originally posted by DeliciousSurprise
I mean, let the record show that I am, of course, against this whole idea.


That being said, I think that all editorial prospects should have to pass some kind of test, showing that they are able to edit effectively, efficiently, ... more
Me and my 5.6 ranking are quite happy with the low ranking requirements at the moment haha
08/01/2011
Contributor: DeliciousSurprise DeliciousSurprise
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Originally posted by BBW Talks Toys
I'm curious why you're against it.
I don't much care for the need to reapply for something for which I've been approved/accepted on a constant rotating basis. I also feel that it would inspire people to become editors that are maybe not so appropriate for the job.

In short, the way I feel about it is as follows: if an editor is doing their job appropriately, consistently, and in a timely fashion, there is no real reason for them to be "fired," so to speak. If an editor is not doing their job to the standards set, they should be relived of their duty so another can take their place.
08/01/2011