Eden Photographers Club Meeting - Tuesday, June21st @ 7pm EDT

Contributor: Jul!a Jul!a
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Originally posted by Jul!a
The mushroom right up front blocks all the other mushrooms and makes it hard to focus on anything else because I feel like I need to wipe off the screen.
And the colors. Those are really great.
06/21/2011
Contributor: Kake aka PoeticErotica Kake aka PoeticErotica
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Originally posted by Petite Valentine
I like that the colors form the secondary triad: orange, green purple, and I also like the shallow depth of field.

However, I believe I see traces of photo manipulation, which are distracting.
Too much, you mean... it's that you can TELL it was ps'd that's distracting, right, not the fact that it was, no? or am i misunderstanding?
06/21/2011
Contributor: Vaccinium Vaccinium
By the way, most of you are focusing on the blurry mushroom - and that is one of the biggest faults I find with the photo.
06/21/2011
Contributor: Kake aka PoeticErotica Kake aka PoeticErotica
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Originally posted by Vaccinium
What photo manipulation are you talking about? It's been years since I worked up this photo, but I don't recall doing anything too outlandish. That said, I clearly use photoshop, so I'd love to hear about what you feel is over-manipulated.
you didn't add a touch of blur?
06/21/2011
Contributor: Wondermom Wondermom
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Originally posted by Vaccinium
So, I got somewhat detailed in my critique and I don’t necessarily expect all of you to see the things I did. For that matter, I have no doubt that I didn’t see all the potential positives and negatives of the photo. We all have different ... more
I love the lighting and how some of the mushrooms are blurry and others are not

I do wish the background wasn't so blurry a little more definition would have been more grounding for the picture
06/21/2011
Contributor: sexyintexas sexyintexas
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Originally posted by Vaccinium
By the way, most of you are focusing on the blurry mushroom - and that is one of the biggest faults I find with the photo.
Yeah I like the smaller ones, but the larger one is a little much.
06/21/2011
Contributor: Airen Wolf Airen Wolf
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Originally posted by Vaccinium
By the way, most of you are focusing on the blurry mushroom - and that is one of the biggest faults I find with the photo.
It is the one major distraction...though it could actually be a focal point if you were to include this as a small part of a montage of landscapes that depict motion.
06/21/2011
Contributor: Vaccinium Vaccinium
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Originally posted by Kake aka PoeticErotica
you didn't add a touch of blur?
Nope. I just took it at an extremely large aperture (small f-stop).
06/21/2011
Contributor: Wondermom Wondermom
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Originally posted by Jul!a
I suppose I've also never really dealt with a critique that wasn't "black and white" either. In high school when we did critiquing the teacher was more like "this is what's wrong with it and this is what you could have ... more
yeah, getting used to constructive criticism has been hard for me, because like you said in school its always this is wrong, with no advice on what to improve.
06/21/2011
Contributor: Vaccinium Vaccinium
I'm starting to run behind on time, so I'm going to need to press ahead, but please continue to comment and add questions. I'll get around to addressing everyone, I promise.
06/21/2011
Contributor: Kake aka PoeticErotica Kake aka PoeticErotica
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Originally posted by Vaccinium
Nope. I just took it at an extremely large aperture (small f-stop).
ah, gotcha. but i stand by my point about being able to ttell when somethning is manipulated vs. the fact that it was manipulated even if this particular pic wasn't. lolol. the blurry shroom really does distract, but maybe that's just me?
06/21/2011
Contributor: Vaccinium Vaccinium
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Originally posted by Wondermom
yeah, getting used to constructive criticism has been hard for me, because like you said in school its always this is wrong, with no advice on what to improve.
I'm terrified of writing critiques on the tumblr site. I don't want to scare away anyone, but I need to give an honest critique at the same time. From the other end, I don't enjoy hearing about aspects of my photography that aren't up to snuff, but there's no other way to improve.
06/21/2011
Contributor: Vaccinium Vaccinium
Sometimes the simplest photos can be the most difficult to critique, because there is so little going on. Many of you found the major issue I have with this photo (although it is easily remedied). Here’s my critique, so you can see whether you saw the same thing I did:




The miniscule depth of field of this photo is every bit as important as the subject matter. The eye-catching, vibrant orange and texture of the mushroom gills draw the eye in and make the eyes focus and scrutinize them. The out of focus mushrooms at the bottom left and top right also add a lot to the photo, as the soft blotches of color add a certain dreaminess to the image. At the same time, the greens break up the image just enough so that it isn’t all orange and brown-black. Focus is very good, although perhaps a slightly different orientation might have brought more mushrooms into focus, and sharpness is spot on. Exposure seems good, as there are no obvious blown out areas, and most of the dark areas still have recognizable features.


The biggest negative is the negative space in the top left corner that is derived from the fact that the line of mushroom heads falls below the 1/3 line of the image (as espoused by the Rule of Thirds). Cropping the image slightly from the top would eliminate some of that negative space and bring the line of mushrooms to the 1/3 level or slightly above. Cropping slightly from the bottom would also eliminate the slightly distracting light object at the bottom left of the image and some of the somewhat negative space at the bottom right.



Did all that make sense?
06/21/2011
Contributor: sexyintexas sexyintexas
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Originally posted by Vaccinium
Sometimes the simplest photos can be the most difficult to critique, because there is so little going on. Many of you found the major issue I have with this photo (although it is easily remedied). Here’s my critique, so you can see whether you saw ... more
Yep...woot maybe I'm catching on
06/21/2011
Contributor: Petite Valentine Petite Valentine
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Originally posted by Vaccinium
What photo manipulation are you talking about? It's been years since I worked up this photo, but I don't recall doing anything too outlandish. That said, I clearly use photoshop, so I'd love to hear about what you feel is over-manipulated.
The blurring towards the lower third of the photo doesn't look natural to me for some reason. My first thought was that maybe you used the blur tool to boost the bokeh effect. It might just be the result of jpg compression.
06/21/2011
Contributor: Vaccinium Vaccinium
As you can see, your biggest negative and mine differed a bit, although I do wish that mushroom on the left was in focus. As I said, we all have different points of view, and that's great. The more points of view, the better.

And where is Alys with her critiques?
06/21/2011
Contributor: Wondermom Wondermom
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Originally posted by Vaccinium
I'm terrified of writing critiques on the tumblr site. I don't want to scare away anyone, but I need to give an honest critique at the same time. From the other end, I don't enjoy hearing about aspects of my photography that aren't ... more
thats how I feel with reviews on here as well, its so hard to unlearn the way we were taught.
06/21/2011
Contributor: Kake aka PoeticErotica Kake aka PoeticErotica
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Originally posted by Petite Valentine
The blurring towards the lower third of the photo doesn't look natural to me for some reason. My first thought was that maybe you used the blur tool to boost the bokeh effect. It might just be the result of jpg compression.
that's what i thought too - that there was a filter effect or somethng on that one shroom.
06/21/2011
Contributor: Petite Valentine Petite Valentine
Sorry, falling behind.
06/21/2011
Contributor: Kake aka PoeticErotica Kake aka PoeticErotica
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Originally posted by Vaccinium
Sometimes the simplest photos can be the most difficult to critique, because there is so little going on. Many of you found the major issue I have with this photo (although it is easily remedied). Here’s my critique, so you can see whether you saw ... more
Crystal clear, actually.
06/21/2011
Contributor: sexyintexas sexyintexas
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Originally posted by Wondermom
thats how I feel with reviews on here as well, its so hard to unlearn the way we were taught.
True!
06/21/2011
Contributor: Ivy Wilde Ivy Wilde
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Originally posted by Vaccinium
Sometimes the simplest photos can be the most difficult to critique, because there is so little going on. Many of you found the major issue I have with this photo (although it is easily remedied). Here’s my critique, so you can see whether you saw ... more
Some of it. But I really very little of the technical aspects of photography and not much more about the compositional. But I do know what I like.
06/21/2011
Contributor: Vaccinium Vaccinium
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Originally posted by Petite Valentine
The blurring towards the lower third of the photo doesn't look natural to me for some reason. My first thought was that maybe you used the blur tool to boost the bokeh effect. It might just be the result of jpg compression.
Could be. For future reference, I never use Gaussian blur or any other blur. I like getting it right the first time (or not, but I just don't like artificially blurring my images). jpeg artifacts are definitely a concern.

For those of you who don't know, whenever you convert an image .jpg format, you are compressing your data, and it can lead to "off" looking areas.
06/21/2011
Contributor: Vaccinium Vaccinium
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Originally posted by Ivy Wilde
Some of it. But I really very little of the technical aspects of photography and not much more about the compositional. But I do know what I like.
And that can be extremely helpful to a photographer (even if you are the photographer). Expertise in the technical aspects is definitely not necessary to critique a photo.
06/21/2011
Contributor: sexyintexas sexyintexas
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Originally posted by Vaccinium
Could be. For future reference, I never use Gaussian blur or any other blur. I like getting it right the first time (or not, but I just don't like artificially blurring my images). jpeg artifacts are definitely a concern.

For those of ... more
Did not know that...no wonder some of my pics look stunted on facebook. Lol
06/21/2011
Contributor: Vaccinium Vaccinium
OK, let’s take a little break and ask a trivia question. As always, if you’ve been reading the articles I post on the Eden Clubs and Events Blog, you stand a much, much better chance at winning. Are we ready?
06/21/2011
Contributor: Kake aka PoeticErotica Kake aka PoeticErotica
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Originally posted by Vaccinium
Could be. For future reference, I never use Gaussian blur or any other blur. I like getting it right the first time (or not, but I just don't like artificially blurring my images). jpeg artifacts are definitely a concern.

For those of ... more
So, let's say I'm saving an image created in another computer program than ps that i plan to edit in ps and i have the choice of saving as png, targa, or jpeg - what's my best choice, png?
06/21/2011
Contributor: sexyintexas sexyintexas
<---shouldve read up
06/21/2011
Contributor: Kake aka PoeticErotica Kake aka PoeticErotica
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Originally posted by Vaccinium
OK, let’s take a little break and ask a trivia question. As always, if you’ve been reading the articles I post on the Eden Clubs and Events Blog, you stand a much, much better chance at winning. Are we ready? ... more
Go for it!
06/21/2011
Contributor: Wondermom Wondermom
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Originally posted by Vaccinium
OK, let’s take a little break and ask a trivia question. As always, if you’ve been reading the articles I post on the Eden Clubs and Events Blog, you stand a much, much better chance at winning. Are we ready? ... more
*hides* I should have read them, you can spank me for punishment
06/21/2011