I'm curious. What does the community think about staged rape scenes in porn? I certainly don't think that just because a person enjoys this kind of pornography that he/she is a rapist. I do however wonder if you think it could perpetuate negative thoughts/behavior towards women (sometimes men) in some individuals- especially those videos involving the "victim" resisting at first, but then end up enjoying being raped. Healthy or harmful sexual outlet?
Rape Fantasies
03/20/2009
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I would like to think that people know the difference between appearance and reality. People who want to see staged rape scenes know they are seeing staged rape scenes (am I right?). I think it's a fine fantasy to have, and porn can provide a healthy outlet for it, esp. if a partner does not want to participate in something like that.
03/20/2009
Well, all I can say is that I've always had a rape fantasy (being raped, not doing the raping). It definitely doesn't mean I want to actually be raped. The thought of it actually happening scares the crap out of me. I think it would probably be about the same as someone liking staged rape in porn. It's just a fantasy.
03/20/2009
I at times wished some hot chick would bust into my room and have sex with me but if it really happened id be worried about stds, pregancy and getting totally pwned by some crazy ass psychopath. i don't have any condoms and stuff around bc i'm not sexually active yet. So it would be a nightmare.
03/20/2009
I've had fantasies like that on occasion as well, but I wouldn't want to really be raped, either. I think that as a staged fantasy in porn, it isn't a bad thing.
03/20/2009
I admit to having a serious cop gang rape fetish, but it's not like I'd go up to a group of cops and be all, "Boy I hope I get RAPED today!" In fact when I see a cop I totally look at the ground and I cant make eye contact whatsoever. Furthermore, whenever I'm alone somewhere at night my number one fear above all else (mugged, kidnapped, etc.) is rape.
Sexual hypocrisies is what all this is.
Sexual hypocrisies is what all this is.
03/21/2009
This is an interesting topic, Machina. I agree with Epiphora that people should know the appearance/reality difference. Fantasies about losing control are still under our own mind's control. Being raped in real life reverses the appearance/reality aspect that is seen in pornographic videos or writing. The real crime isn't fulfilling a fantasy, just as the porno rape isn't (shouldn't be) a real loss of control.
I'm curious about what jedent means by "sexual hypocrisies is what all this is."
I'm curious about what jedent means by "sexual hypocrisies is what all this is."
03/23/2009
I think Jedent (feel free to correct me) just meant that it's hypocritical to fantasize about being raped, yet be against it happening in real life. Most (if not all) fantasies are about things you really wish would happen:
A handsome prince rides up on a white stallion, rescues you, and romantically fucks your brains out with his 8".
A barely legal teen begs to suck your cock, wants you to put it in her ass, and then guzzles your load.
etc...etc...Getting/be ing raped doesn't exactly fall into the same category. except BDSM, but most of that implies mutual consent from both parties.
I have a close friend who was raped, and have very strong feelings about how rapists should be punished. We even started a program after it happened to promote rape awareness and prevention at my school. Even though I loathe those sick bastards who actually do rape women, I have found myself lost in a rape fantasy or two. I feel guilty afterwards. Mostly because I feel like when I fantasize about rape, I'm making a mockery of the rape my friend had to endure for real. It's kind of hypocritical of me.
I don't know if hypocrisy is exactly the right word, but I get what she's saying.
A handsome prince rides up on a white stallion, rescues you, and romantically fucks your brains out with his 8".
A barely legal teen begs to suck your cock, wants you to put it in her ass, and then guzzles your load.
etc...etc...Getting/be ing raped doesn't exactly fall into the same category. except BDSM, but most of that implies mutual consent from both parties.
I have a close friend who was raped, and have very strong feelings about how rapists should be punished. We even started a program after it happened to promote rape awareness and prevention at my school. Even though I loathe those sick bastards who actually do rape women, I have found myself lost in a rape fantasy or two. I feel guilty afterwards. Mostly because I feel like when I fantasize about rape, I'm making a mockery of the rape my friend had to endure for real. It's kind of hypocritical of me.
I don't know if hypocrisy is exactly the right word, but I get what she's saying.
03/23/2009
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Right, it wasnt like a negative connotation, it was more like that's probably not the right word but it was the first word that came to mind.
Originally posted by
Machina
I think Jedent (feel free to correct me) just meant that it's hypocritical to fantasize about being raped, yet be against it happening in real life. Most (if not all) fantasies are about things you really wish would happen:
A handsome ... more
A handsome ... more
I think Jedent (feel free to correct me) just meant that it's hypocritical to fantasize about being raped, yet be against it happening in real life. Most (if not all) fantasies are about things you really wish would happen:
A handsome prince rides up on a white stallion, rescues you, and romantically fucks your brains out with his 8".
A barely legal teen begs to suck your cock, wants you to put it in her ass, and then guzzles your load.
etc...etc...Getting/be ing raped doesn't exactly fall into the same category. except BDSM, but most of that implies mutual consent from both parties.
I have a close friend who was raped, and have very strong feelings about how rapists should be punished. We even started a program after it happened to promote rape awareness and prevention at my school. Even though I loathe those sick bastards who actually do rape women, I have found myself lost in a rape fantasy or two. I feel guilty afterwards. Mostly because I feel like when I fantasize about rape, I'm making a mockery of the rape my friend had to endure for real. It's kind of hypocritical of me.
I don't know if hypocrisy is exactly the right word, but I get what she's saying. less
A handsome prince rides up on a white stallion, rescues you, and romantically fucks your brains out with his 8".
A barely legal teen begs to suck your cock, wants you to put it in her ass, and then guzzles your load.
etc...etc...Getting/be ing raped doesn't exactly fall into the same category. except BDSM, but most of that implies mutual consent from both parties.
I have a close friend who was raped, and have very strong feelings about how rapists should be punished. We even started a program after it happened to promote rape awareness and prevention at my school. Even though I loathe those sick bastards who actually do rape women, I have found myself lost in a rape fantasy or two. I feel guilty afterwards. Mostly because I feel like when I fantasize about rape, I'm making a mockery of the rape my friend had to endure for real. It's kind of hypocritical of me.
I don't know if hypocrisy is exactly the right word, but I get what she's saying. less
03/23/2009
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Paradox.
Originally posted by
jedent
Right, it wasnt like a negative connotation, it was more like that's probably not the right word but it was the first word that came to mind.
03/23/2009
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Most of my fantasies revolve around things I wouldn't ever want to really happen (sexual fantasies, that is).
Originally posted by
Machina
I think Jedent (feel free to correct me) just meant that it's hypocritical to fantasize about being raped, yet be against it happening in real life. Most (if not all) fantasies are about things you really wish would happen:
A handsome ... more
A handsome ... more
I think Jedent (feel free to correct me) just meant that it's hypocritical to fantasize about being raped, yet be against it happening in real life. Most (if not all) fantasies are about things you really wish would happen:
A handsome prince rides up on a white stallion, rescues you, and romantically fucks your brains out with his 8".
A barely legal teen begs to suck your cock, wants you to put it in her ass, and then guzzles your load.
etc...etc...Getting/be ing raped doesn't exactly fall into the same category. except BDSM, but most of that implies mutual consent from both parties.
I have a close friend who was raped, and have very strong feelings about how rapists should be punished. We even started a program after it happened to promote rape awareness and prevention at my school. Even though I loathe those sick bastards who actually do rape women, I have found myself lost in a rape fantasy or two. I feel guilty afterwards. Mostly because I feel like when I fantasize about rape, I'm making a mockery of the rape my friend had to endure for real. It's kind of hypocritical of me.
I don't know if hypocrisy is exactly the right word, but I get what she's saying. less
A handsome prince rides up on a white stallion, rescues you, and romantically fucks your brains out with his 8".
A barely legal teen begs to suck your cock, wants you to put it in her ass, and then guzzles your load.
etc...etc...Getting/be ing raped doesn't exactly fall into the same category. except BDSM, but most of that implies mutual consent from both parties.
I have a close friend who was raped, and have very strong feelings about how rapists should be punished. We even started a program after it happened to promote rape awareness and prevention at my school. Even though I loathe those sick bastards who actually do rape women, I have found myself lost in a rape fantasy or two. I feel guilty afterwards. Mostly because I feel like when I fantasize about rape, I'm making a mockery of the rape my friend had to endure for real. It's kind of hypocritical of me.
I don't know if hypocrisy is exactly the right word, but I get what she's saying. less
But I do understand.
03/23/2009
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Thank you In the pink
Originally posted by
Victoria
Paradox.
03/23/2009
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Yes! Fantastic. Thank you.
Originally posted by
Machina
Thank you In the pink
03/23/2009
Ooh, lots of new things to read. I think "paradox" is a better word, but I see now what jedent meant by "hypocrisy." Thanks! ^_^
03/24/2009
From the majority of responses it seems it's women who fantasize about rape more than men... interesting notion. Then again, the guys might just be (understandably) worried about admitting it. It's also interesting that on a lot of hardcore websites featuring staged rape clips I've seen many comments from men stating the videos are unappealing, disturbing, not sexy, etc.
03/24/2009
Rape, staged or otherwise is abhorrent to me and violent.. I have dealt with too many girls that were raped or incidents of attempted rape by so called friends....b/f 's of their g/f's.
Guys may think about it but hopefully don't act on it, some of the hardcore stuff only encourages the jerks out there.
Just had to say this..
Guys may think about it but hopefully don't act on it, some of the hardcore stuff only encourages the jerks out there.
Just had to say this..
03/24/2009
I have always thought about hubby forcing himself on me, in fact we've even played that out. I just love it when he's forceful...so I can see where so people would like watching that in porn and I don't think that automatically makes you a rapist...
04/05/2009
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I don't think anyone is saying that's the case.
Originally posted by
Mae Baby
I have always thought about hubby forcing himself on me, in fact we've even played that out. I just love it when he's forceful...so I can see where so people would like watching that in porn and I don't think that automatically makes you a rapist...
Lots of people like forceful play but whenever you can call anything 'play,' it indicates that it ends someplace, that there are rules, that it's just pretend. That's the difference. IT's the same with porn; we know it's not real.
Even rape fantasies indicate that the person does not want it to happen. In fact, I disagree with Machina. By its very definition, a fantasy is something we want left in the land of make believe; otherwise we would act on it.
I agree with this comment "The real crime isn't fulfilling a fantasy, just as the porno rape isn't (shouldn't be) a real loss of control."
04/05/2009
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I know many people who have enjoyed rape fantasies and had that kind of sex with their partners, but they find actual rape reprehensible. A rape fantasy is a conscious choice you make with your partner, just like actors and actresses who agree to act in rape porn (and I'd be stunned if they didn't have a special safe word in both cases). Actual rape is not a choice.
Originally posted by
Epiphora
I would like to think that people know the difference between appearance and reality. People who want to see staged rape scenes know they are seeing staged rape scenes (am I right?). I think it's a fine fantasy to have, and porn can provide a
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I would like to think that people know the difference between appearance and reality. People who want to see staged rape scenes know they are seeing staged rape scenes (am I right?). I think it's a fine fantasy to have, and porn can provide a healthy outlet for it, esp. if a partner does not want to participate in something like that.
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04/05/2009
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I'm glad you agree with my comment. ^_^
Originally posted by
Adriana Ravenlust
I don't think anyone is saying that's the case.
Lots of people like forceful play but whenever you can call anything 'play,' it indicates that it ends someplace, that there are rules, that it's just pretend. That's the ... more
Lots of people like forceful play but whenever you can call anything 'play,' it indicates that it ends someplace, that there are rules, that it's just pretend. That's the ... more
I don't think anyone is saying that's the case.
Lots of people like forceful play but whenever you can call anything 'play,' it indicates that it ends someplace, that there are rules, that it's just pretend. That's the difference. IT's the same with porn; we know it's not real.
Even rape fantasies indicate that the person does not want it to happen. In fact, I disagree with Machina. By its very definition, a fantasy is something we want left in the land of make believe; otherwise we would act on it.
I agree with this comment "The real crime isn't fulfilling a fantasy, just as the porno rape isn't (shouldn't be) a real loss of control." less
Lots of people like forceful play but whenever you can call anything 'play,' it indicates that it ends someplace, that there are rules, that it's just pretend. That's the difference. IT's the same with porn; we know it's not real.
Even rape fantasies indicate that the person does not want it to happen. In fact, I disagree with Machina. By its very definition, a fantasy is something we want left in the land of make believe; otherwise we would act on it.
I agree with this comment "The real crime isn't fulfilling a fantasy, just as the porno rape isn't (shouldn't be) a real loss of control." less
I don't think all fantasies are things we'd rather leave in the land of make believe, but rape fantasies are likely quite different in our minds than how we would make them happen in real life. I'm not sure how common those types of role playing scenarios get carried out in reality. I get what you mean, though.
04/06/2009
I just wrote an article about this exact same topic - based on a lot of stuff I'd read in books like Nancy Friday's 'My Secret Garden.'
She believes that the popularity of rape fantasies is nothing to do with rape, but allowing a woman to enjoy debauched, wild, uninhibited sex and then not have to feel guilty about being a 'slut' afterwards - because she was 'raped' and forced to do all those things (that, in her fantasy, she enjoyed.)
In my research for the article, I actually found that rape fantasies are becoming less common as women are made to feel less guilty for the sexual double standard (that a promiscuous man is a 'stud' and a promiscuous woman is a 'slut.')
My article's out this month in Jacques, for anybody in the New York area.
She believes that the popularity of rape fantasies is nothing to do with rape, but allowing a woman to enjoy debauched, wild, uninhibited sex and then not have to feel guilty about being a 'slut' afterwards - because she was 'raped' and forced to do all those things (that, in her fantasy, she enjoyed.)
In my research for the article, I actually found that rape fantasies are becoming less common as women are made to feel less guilty for the sexual double standard (that a promiscuous man is a 'stud' and a promiscuous woman is a 'slut.')
My article's out this month in Jacques, for anybody in the New York area.
04/06/2009
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There's an interesting theory, & it would make a lot of sense.
Originally posted by
Champagne and Benzedrine (Roland Hulme)
I just wrote an article about this exact same topic - based on a lot of stuff I'd read in books like Nancy Friday's 'My Secret Garden.'
She believes that the popularity of rape fantasies is nothing to do with rape, but allowing ... more
She believes that the popularity of rape fantasies is nothing to do with rape, but allowing ... more
I just wrote an article about this exact same topic - based on a lot of stuff I'd read in books like Nancy Friday's 'My Secret Garden.'
She believes that the popularity of rape fantasies is nothing to do with rape, but allowing a woman to enjoy debauched, wild, uninhibited sex and then not have to feel guilty about being a 'slut' afterwards - because she was 'raped' and forced to do all those things (that, in her fantasy, she enjoyed.)
In my research for the article, I actually found that rape fantasies are becoming less common as women are made to feel less guilty for the sexual double standard (that a promiscuous man is a 'stud' and a promiscuous woman is a 'slut.')
My article's out this month in Jacques, for anybody in the New York area. less
She believes that the popularity of rape fantasies is nothing to do with rape, but allowing a woman to enjoy debauched, wild, uninhibited sex and then not have to feel guilty about being a 'slut' afterwards - because she was 'raped' and forced to do all those things (that, in her fantasy, she enjoyed.)
In my research for the article, I actually found that rape fantasies are becoming less common as women are made to feel less guilty for the sexual double standard (that a promiscuous man is a 'stud' and a promiscuous woman is a 'slut.')
My article's out this month in Jacques, for anybody in the New York area. less
04/06/2009
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Very concise
Originally posted by
Backseat Boohoo
I know many people who have enjoyed rape fantasies and had that kind of sex with their partners, but they find actual rape reprehensible. A rape fantasy is a conscious choice you make with your partner, just like actors and actresses who agree to act
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more
I know many people who have enjoyed rape fantasies and had that kind of sex with their partners, but they find actual rape reprehensible. A rape fantasy is a conscious choice you make with your partner, just like actors and actresses who agree to act in rape porn (and I'd be stunned if they didn't have a special safe word in both cases). Actual rape is not a choice.
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04/06/2009
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I know for me, personally, it isn't a fantasy if it's something I actually want to happen. Then it's.. planning? Heh
Originally posted by
Rockin'
I'm glad you agree with my comment. ^_^
I don't think all fantasies are things we'd rather leave in the land of make believe, but rape fantasies are likely quite different in our minds than how we would make them happen in real ... more
I don't think all fantasies are things we'd rather leave in the land of make believe, but rape fantasies are likely quite different in our minds than how we would make them happen in real ... more
I'm glad you agree with my comment. ^_^
I don't think all fantasies are things we'd rather leave in the land of make believe, but rape fantasies are likely quite different in our minds than how we would make them happen in real life. I'm not sure how common those types of role playing scenarios get carried out in reality. I get what you mean, though. less
I don't think all fantasies are things we'd rather leave in the land of make believe, but rape fantasies are likely quite different in our minds than how we would make them happen in real life. I'm not sure how common those types of role playing scenarios get carried out in reality. I get what you mean, though. less
04/06/2009
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I figured that's what you meant, but I wasn't sure what I'd call thinking about something that I'd want to happen if it weren't a fantasy. Planning works for now, hehe.
Originally posted by
Adriana Ravenlust
I know for me, personally, it isn't a fantasy if it's something I actually want to happen. Then it's.. planning? Heh
04/07/2009
chinnaman1
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have u ever enjoyed rape fantasy
Originally posted by
Backseat Boohoo
I know many people who have enjoyed rape fantasies and had that kind of sex with their partners, but they find actual rape reprehensible. A rape fantasy is a conscious choice you make with your partner, just like actors and actresses who agree to act
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more
I know many people who have enjoyed rape fantasies and had that kind of sex with their partners, but they find actual rape reprehensible. A rape fantasy is a conscious choice you make with your partner, just like actors and actresses who agree to act in rape porn (and I'd be stunned if they didn't have a special safe word in both cases). Actual rape is not a choice.
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05/07/2009
Irisheyez
It is not accurate to call it rape fantasy. If you want it to happen, it isn't rape. From a girl who has been raped before this is not letting go of inhibitions.
If this fantasy falls more under the bdsm category. It is inaccurate to call it rape at all. I wish none of you woman have to ever experience rape, it was a fear of mine that came true, just like many of you said you fear it in real life. It messes with you emotional, mentally, and even physically at times. Not exactly the enjoyable aggressive romp you fantasize about.
If this fantasy falls more under the bdsm category. It is inaccurate to call it rape at all. I wish none of you woman have to ever experience rape, it was a fear of mine that came true, just like many of you said you fear it in real life. It messes with you emotional, mentally, and even physically at times. Not exactly the enjoyable aggressive romp you fantasize about.
05/07/2009
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If you realize that in fantasy there are no repercussions, no lives trashed and everyone ends up enjoying themselves then it's fine. The line can't get blurred though...fantasy rape is about powerful sex, real life rape is about power NOT sex. I have violent fantasies involving myself being both the agressor and victim I don't ever want those fantasies to be real...in my fantasies the people don't get really hurt in reality the thought of seeing real fear and pain in the eyes of my "victim" makes me feel ill.
Originally posted by
Machina
I'm curious. What does the community think about staged rape scenes in porn? I certainly don't think that just because a person enjoys this kind of pornography that he/she is a rapist. I do however wonder if you think it could perpetuate
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more
I'm curious. What does the community think about staged rape scenes in porn? I certainly don't think that just because a person enjoys this kind of pornography that he/she is a rapist. I do however wonder if you think it could perpetuate negative thoughts/behavior towards women (sometimes men) in some individuals- especially those videos involving the "victim" resisting at first, but then end up enjoying being raped. Healthy or harmful sexual outlet?
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07/18/2009
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not sure this is for me
Originally posted by
Machina
I'm curious. What does the community think about staged rape scenes in porn? I certainly don't think that just because a person enjoys this kind of pornography that he/she is a rapist. I do however wonder if you think it could perpetuate
...
more
I'm curious. What does the community think about staged rape scenes in porn? I certainly don't think that just because a person enjoys this kind of pornography that he/she is a rapist. I do however wonder if you think it could perpetuate negative thoughts/behavior towards women (sometimes men) in some individuals- especially those videos involving the "victim" resisting at first, but then end up enjoying being raped. Healthy or harmful sexual outlet?
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03/15/2013
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good points
Originally posted by
Airen Wolf
If you realize that in fantasy there are no repercussions, no lives trashed and everyone ends up enjoying themselves then it's fine. The line can't get blurred though...fantasy rape is about powerful sex, real life rape is about power NOT
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If you realize that in fantasy there are no repercussions, no lives trashed and everyone ends up enjoying themselves then it's fine. The line can't get blurred though...fantasy rape is about powerful sex, real life rape is about power NOT sex. I have violent fantasies involving myself being both the agressor and victim I don't ever want those fantasies to be real...in my fantasies the people don't get really hurt in reality the thought of seeing real fear and pain in the eyes of my "victim" makes me feel ill.
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03/15/2013
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