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Contributor: Viktor Vysheslav Malkin Viktor Vysheslav Malkin
Dear community,

I am calling on all for help, I am considering reviewing "Beladonna's fetish fantastic 4". In the movie, there is a scene in which she has sex with two transgendered women.

The back of the box says "SheMales", and it is a common term, however I personally do not like it.

I find the word "Shemale" to be an offensive, along with the word "Tranny" and "LadyBoy" and others.

I would like to know a term I can use, I could say two women, but... Someone thinking of buying the product deserve to know. I am confused on how to approach this.

I surely do not want to offend anyone, so I come to ask you all for your input.

As a straight male(not that it has anything to do with it), and someone who has very limited knowledge and communication with the transgendered community.

thanks for your time,
Viktor

PS: OH for gods sake... I can not even spell terminology right...I am hopeless...
03/04/2010
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Contributor: EffinSara EffinSara
Thank you for asking! I don't like any of those terms either, and would be unhappy to see them in a review on this site.

All I have to suggest is "trans-women" and "MTF trans". I'm sure there will be lots of other great suggestions from this community, though!
03/04/2010
Contributor: Viktor Vysheslav Malkin Viktor Vysheslav Malkin
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Originally posted by EffinSara
Thank you for asking! I don't like any of those terms either, and would be unhappy to see them in a review on this site.

All I have to suggest is "trans-women" and "MTF trans". I'm sure there will be lots of other ... more
Thanks so much for your contributions

I really appreciate taking the time and giving some tips of what to use
03/06/2010
Contributor: Sir Sir
Transgendered women, trans- women, or transwomen. In general speak, of course, I would refer to any woman as just a woman, but since it is pornography, any of those terms is good.

Trust me, I do not like those terms either. I sometimes wonder why the porn industry even uses them, they seem so derogatory and discriminatory. Men who are trans- are not called names like that, so I do not understand why the women should be.
03/06/2010
Contributor: Luscious Lily Luscious Lily
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Originally posted by Viktor Vysheslav Malkin
Dear community,

I am calling on all for help, I am considering reviewing "Beladonna's fetish fantastic 4". In the movie, there is a scene in which she has sex with two transgendered women.

The back of the box says ... more
Thank you so much for having the heart and tact and guts to ask this. I agree with what's been said so far, "transgendered woman" or "transwoman" are probably your best bets. The first is complete enough that, if you use it early on in the review, copying and pasting it into wikipedia will let a clueless reader figure out what you're talking about. You could then continue with "transwoman" or "trans-woman", to make it less cumbersome to type and read.

While MTF trans is a term that many of us in the community would recognize and understand, the average customer would probably be confused. So, unless you want to devote a sentence or two of your review to terminology education (which would totally rock if you decided to tackle that), writing out transgendered would be the easiest to follow.
03/07/2010
Contributor: Gary Gary
In the past I have innocently used many of these words, not realizing that they were offensive. Pointing out the porn industry should not use offensive terms is probably a great point to make. I would guess that most people who do not live in major cities have very limited exposure to most aspects of the trans community. I would also guess that most of the terminology these people use is what they learned from porn.
03/08/2010
Contributor: Viktor Vysheslav Malkin Viktor Vysheslav Malkin
I live way out of the city, and in a rural area so I agree with what Gary said. I really have no exposure to the transgendered community.

Anyway, I wanted to thank everyone for their input. I really appreciate it, I really did not want to offend anyone with poor terminology.

Now the hard part, how to go over scene by scene of a 5 and half hour DVD, that has tons of backstage and commentary stuff.
03/08/2010
Contributor: Gary Gary
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Originally posted by Viktor Vysheslav Malkin
I live way out of the city, and in a rural area so I agree with what Gary said. I really have no exposure to the transgendered community.

Anyway, I wanted to thank everyone for their input. I really appreciate it, I really did not want to ... more
Having to watch porn over and over for the sake of research is always a difficult task
03/10/2010
Contributor: Airen Wolf Airen Wolf
(EF Review Program Mentor)
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Originally posted by Gary
Having to watch porn over and over for the sake of research is always a difficult task
it's a dirty job...
03/10/2010
Contributor: Victoria Victoria
Quote:
Originally posted by Gary
Having to watch porn over and over for the sake of research is always a difficult task
"Having to porn over and over", huh?
03/10/2010
Contributor: Kynky Kytty Kynky Kytty
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Originally posted by Victoria
"Having to porn over and over", huh?
Did someone just get in trouble?
03/10/2010
Contributor: SydVicious SydVicious
Quote:
Originally posted by Gary
Having to watch porn over and over for the sake of research is always a difficult task
I got a good giggle out of that one!
03/12/2010
Contributor: Vinroe Vinroe
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Originally posted by Gary
Having to watch porn over and over for the sake of research is always a difficult task
To porn all day long, that sounds like a dream job. Carpe Porno! I'm surprised no one has just invented a new term. They say that every minute a thousand new word/terms are created online. I'm waiting for the day I see M, F, or T on a job application. It'd be a first step to universal acceptance. Sorry! I stepped on a soapbox there.
01/10/2011
Contributor: Alys Alys
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Originally posted by Vinroe
To porn all day long, that sounds like a dream job. Carpe Porno! I'm surprised no one has just invented a new term. They say that every minute a thousand new word/terms are created online. I'm waiting for the day I see M, F, or T on a job ... more
New Sexis article about how Nepal is taking steps to make this happen.
01/10/2011
Contributor: kendycane kendycane
Quote:
Originally posted by Viktor Vysheslav Malkin
Dear community,

I am calling on all for help, I am considering reviewing "Beladonna's fetish fantastic 4". In the movie, there is a scene in which she has sex with two transgendered women.

The back of the box says ... more
I am cisgender (a.k.a. my mind matches my junk/gender normative) and I personally believe that talking to people who are tansgender is your best source of info. I have heard that "tranny" and everything else you mentioned is a no-no to say. Think about how many racial slurs are said just with black female porn stars. It's no different for sexual minorities in porn films. Don't assume that something in a porno is ok to do in real life.
01/22/2011