How many are left that remember the days of "EF community"?

Just an FYI, EF is the reason that I have developed into such the toy snob that I am today. Additionally the old Points Program was the inducement for me to have spent well over $1000 (out of pocket, not counting points) with EF. BTW with the change in the points program, my strong loyalty to making ALL of my toy and supply purchases with EF is gone. less

I've been around quite awhile, 3 years maybe? I've never been one of the most active people on here though. I don't get on as much as I used to since I work 2 jobs, but I still like to check in. Eden is where I began exploring my sexuality, it was from reading posts, articles, and reviews that I learned tips on having orgasms on my own communicating with partners, different techniques to try, products to try, etc.

I miss covering entire purchases with points too, but I feel pretty loyal to EF because it has been such a big part of learning my sexuality. It is a little quieter here now, but I'm still discovering new things from people's posts so I think it is still a nice community to be a part of, so I will keep sticking around. less

I went away for my "weekend" (I'm off every Thursday and Friday) and met a girl who actually uses this site a lot and she said that she stopped coming here as often because of the decrease of the points and all that happened.

It was kind of neat to meet someone in person who I could talk to about it and get face to face feedback about it with. less

Honestly Stormy, I think a lot of people feel as if sharing sexual content in their own lives is worth more than a 15% discount on a toy.

I know people abused EF in the past but there were those of us who didn't abuse EF such as ourselves. Truthfully I think that people went with EF because they felt they were being compensated for their stories and reviews (Being personal sexual content and experiences).

Now that only 15% of the purchase can be covered by points why wouldn't you just find a discount code. Truthfully, the 30% discount on being an advanced reviewer plus 15% is looked at by a rational person as this.

The prices charged by Eden are obviously to make a profit. Why would you be in business if you were not trying to make a profit? 30% off for a review purchase is probably around the wholesale cost of the toy. Taking 15% off for points on top of that is probably cutting into the meat of the toy. So technically how much is that killing the company? How much would you ask to be compensated for taking three hours of your time to write a document for someone? How much is your time worth?

If you consider the forum was obviously designed to be advertising.... AND how many people buy a toy because of reviews.... I think you see what I am saying here.

Maybe what should have happened would be preventing point farming by keeping track of how people made their points and allowing people to continue to purchase toys with their points.

I completely understand why a company needs to make a profit but you have to take into account that bringing people and attention to the business has a giant cost too.

I think it sucked how people took all of their frustrations out on you, if you want the truth because it wasn't your fault. I don't blame the CEO and leadership for making changes because if changes have to be made to stay profitable and stay afloat you do what you have to do.

I am just saying that you may find people feel like we do. We support Eden but we kind of feel slighted by Eden as well. less

All perfectly understandable, but you're absolutely correct we have to make profits. Though, I will kindly and respectfully disagree that someone needs additional incentive outside of free product to write reviews. ALL of the major vendors in the industry offer some sort of review program and most are quite successful -- the difference between those retailers and EF is that we give you a platform to host that information instead of making you shell out of pocket for a blog.

It's all about perspective.

I do appreciate you stating your opinion on the backlash everyone, not just me, received during that time. What I don't understand is why we're still talking about it 7 months later. It's done and it's not going to change any time soon. less

I think you misunderstood me Stormy. I didn't say that we need additional incentives. What I said was having a cap at 15% of the order to use points on all of the sudden didn't seem right for people who were doing right by EF. All I was saying was that capping it at 15% may seem like not enough of an incentive to some people.

I am sure it will work its way out. I didn't intend for my comment to have a disrespectful tone if it came off that way.

You got handed the huge task of righting the ship after the turn over and I respect you for putting your best efforts into it. Thank you. less

I think you misunderstood me Stormy. I didn't say that we need additional incentives. What I said was having a cap at 15% of the order to use points on all of the sudden didn't seem right for people who were doing right by EF. All I was saying was that capping it at 15% may seem like not enough of an incentive to some people.

I am sure it will work its way out. I didn't intend for my comment to have a disrespectful tone if it came off that way.

You got handed the huge task of righting the ship after the turn over and I respect you for putting your best efforts into it. Thank you. less

Wow, it's been ages since I've visited and things are so different. As someone who used to love to write reviews and visit the forums, EF now appears to be a ghost town. Points are now capped at 15%?! I've got 67,600 points that I'll never use up. I also miss all of the fun regulars that used to hang around. The number and quality of reviews of toys for men has certainly declined too. less

I think it will definitely get better. I want to put a lot of effort in getting the community going again, getting people back into writing. Just getting everyone involved again.

I know I can't speak for everyone, but I would love to see us grow our community, let it grow with the change, let it blossom into something new, you know?

I have absolute faith that we can get out of this rut that we're in. less