Body Modification vs. Mutilation Survey PLEASE DO!

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Contributor: ~LaUr3n~ ~LaUr3n~
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Hey guys!

I am cramming a research paper right now and need your help like last time! Please do the following survey:
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Then please discuss what you feel the difference between body modification and mutilation is.

Where is that line?

What should be illegal and not illegal?
12/15/2010
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Contributor: Kindred Kindred
In the last three questions, you list a number of procedures. However, under the question "Which of the following do you feel is body mutilation? " you did not include the option "splitting." Was this intentional or an oversight?
12/15/2010
Contributor: RubenesqueAna RubenesqueAna
On the last one, I don't think any of them should be illegal, but if I leave them all blank, it tells me the question is required and that I have to pick one.
12/15/2010
Contributor: Alicia Alicia
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Originally posted by RubenesqueAna
On the last one, I don't think any of them should be illegal, but if I leave them all blank, it tells me the question is required and that I have to pick one.
Same here, so I can't acrtually submit it because I don't think any should be illegal.
12/15/2010
Contributor: ~LaUr3n~ ~LaUr3n~
Hold up! Thanks guys! I'll go fix that now!
12/15/2010
Contributor: ~LaUr3n~ ~LaUr3n~
Should be fixed now. The first 20 people to do this will also get 50 EF points, so inbox me with the time you finished the survey.
12/15/2010
Contributor: ~LaUr3n~ ~LaUr3n~
P.S. Thanks in advance guys! You have no idea how much this helps me out.
12/15/2010
Contributor: ZenaidaMacroura ZenaidaMacroura
Done! That was painless. Haha.
12/15/2010
Contributor: ~LaUr3n~ ~LaUr3n~
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Originally posted by ZenaidaMacroura
Done! That was painless. Haha.
Thanks hun! Don't forget to inbox me


My biggest question comes with the forming of laws and the medicalization of these procedures.

Why makes one legal and the other not?

It's interesting that things like gender reassignment, breast implants, etc are all legal and medical (you go to a doctor with a license etc.) while other look enhancement surgeries are not legal or medicalized.
12/15/2010
Contributor: RubenesqueAna RubenesqueAna
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Originally posted by ~LaUr3n~
Thanks hun! Don't forget to inbox me


My biggest question comes with the forming of laws and the medicalization of these procedures.

Why makes one legal and the other not?

It's interesting that things like gender ... more
Some of those are illegal? I had no idea.
12/15/2010
Contributor: ~LaUr3n~ ~LaUr3n~
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Originally posted by RubenesqueAna
Some of those are illegal? I had no idea.
Absolutely! It depends on where you live, but many things are illegal. Tongue splitting is a huge one. Facial tattoos are illegal in certain places too. I have a whole list from my research.

Anything to do with the genitals is usually illegal as well.
12/15/2010
Contributor: RubenesqueAna RubenesqueAna
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Originally posted by ~LaUr3n~
Absolutely! It depends on where you live, but many things are illegal. Tongue splitting is a huge one. Facial tattoos are illegal in certain places too. I have a whole list from my research.

Anything to do with the genitals is usually illegal ... more
That's super interesting. I'm kind of slightly curious to read your research paper.
12/15/2010
Contributor: ~LaUr3n~ ~LaUr3n~
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Originally posted by RubenesqueAna
That's super interesting. I'm kind of slightly curious to read your research paper.
I can most certainly post it for you. Perhaps i will write an eden cafe article as well. I have one on Eden Cafe about another research paper. That one was about sexual deviance also related to what is legal and illegal.
12/15/2010
Contributor: ~LaUr3n~ ~LaUr3n~
So far, has everyone said that none of them should be illegal?

Does this also mean that you feel none of it is body mutilation? If not...what is?
12/15/2010
Contributor: Taylor Taylor
I just finished it. Sounds like an interesting paper.
12/15/2010
Contributor: ~LaUr3n~ ~LaUr3n~
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Originally posted by Taylor
I just finished it. Sounds like an interesting paper.
Thanks! It really is an interesting subject.
12/15/2010
Contributor: RubenesqueAna RubenesqueAna
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Originally posted by ~LaUr3n~
So far, has everyone said that none of them should be illegal?

Does this also mean that you feel none of it is body mutilation? If not...what is?
I feel like pretty much all of it is body mutilation (except hair dying which is completely temporary). But I see no reason why any of it should be illegal.
12/15/2010
Contributor: ~LaUr3n~ ~LaUr3n~
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Originally posted by RubenesqueAna
I feel like pretty much all of it is body mutilation (except hair dying which is completely temporary). But I see no reason why any of it should be illegal.
Could you explain this a bit more? So basically i am gathering that your definition includes damage versus non damage? Permanence versus being able to go back?
12/15/2010
Contributor: the bedroom blogger the bedroom blogger
Just because I may consider something to be mutilation does not mean I believe it should be illegal. If we wanna get technical, I have to agree with RubenesqueAna and say that most of these things could be considered mutilation...but I see nothing wrong with anyone having them done. If we make tattoos or piercings or even splitting illegal, people will still have them done and that could get dangerous.
12/15/2010
Contributor: Miss B Haven Miss B Haven
I think only branding and splitting are mutulation. Most of the things you listed are, in my opinion, just body mods.

I define the difference as modifications are things done that you can change back if you choose to and mutilation can not be reversed. Plastic surgery, tatoos, and gender change is a little more difficult but could still be reversed.

I don't think any of it should be illegal as I think a person should be able to do what they want to their own bodies.
12/15/2010
Contributor: ~LaUr3n~ ~LaUr3n~
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Originally posted by the bedroom blogger
Just because I may consider something to be mutilation does not mean I believe it should be illegal. If we wanna get technical, I have to agree with RubenesqueAna and say that most of these things could be considered mutilation...but I see nothing ... more
I am surprised by this. I did not hypothesis this at all. I actually hypothesized that those who felt something was mutilation also felt it should be illegal. I shall see if it is statistically significant enough to report though.
12/15/2010
Contributor: ~LaUr3n~ ~LaUr3n~
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Originally posted by Miss B Haven
I think only branding and splitting are mutulation. Most of the things you listed are, in my opinion, just body mods.

I define the difference as modifications are things done that you can change back if you choose to and mutilation can not be ... more
Excellent explanation. Thank you!
12/15/2010
Contributor: ~LaUr3n~ ~LaUr3n~
BTW, still plenty of points left to be had!
12/15/2010
Contributor: leatherlover leatherlover
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Originally posted by ~LaUr3n~
I am surprised by this. I did not hypothesis this at all. I actually hypothesized that those who felt something was mutilation also felt it should be illegal. I shall see if it is statistically significant enough to report though.
I agree with the bedroom blogger. I thought a few of the things were mutilation, but I did not think that a single one should be illegal. Just because I don't like it, doesn't mean someone should not be able to do it.
12/15/2010
Contributor: ~LaUr3n~ ~LaUr3n~
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Originally posted by leatherlover
I agree with the bedroom blogger. I thought a few of the things were mutilation, but I did not think that a single one should be illegal. Just because I don't like it, doesn't mean someone should not be able to do it.
For those who said none of those should be illegal...

Is there anything that should be?

Amputation for non-medical purpose?
12/15/2010
Contributor: Darling Jen Darling Jen
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Originally posted by Miss B Haven
I think only branding and splitting are mutulation. Most of the things you listed are, in my opinion, just body mods.

I define the difference as modifications are things done that you can change back if you choose to and mutilation can not be ... more
That's a really good way of looking at it.

I thought about this for a little while and thinking that modification and mutilation change note based on any physical characteristics but on cultural/social ones. To me, it's not the fact that some are reversal and others not, it's about choice and reason.

A tribe in Africa still to this day uses scarification to be part of the initiation ritual of boys into men. They have patterns down their backs to resemble an alligator or stripe-like scars like a wild cat. They knowingly and willingly do these things to their body and it becomes a source of pride and part of their identity. I currently don't want this for myself but I don't see it as mutilation or worthy of being outlawed.

On the other hand, many societies around the globe continue to drag unwilling girls from their homes to perform genital mutilation on them. They are forced into it with no person choice in the matter. They carry no sentimentality with it other than "Well, I had to". And now for the rest of their lives, they will experience pain only when having intercourse with their husband. I see this as mutilation and should be made illegal.

It is the dilemma of the anthropologist to determine what is a difference of culture and therefore should not be interfered with or controlled (like the European white man had done for centuries before cultural awareness and acceptance even existed) and what is just inhumane and a crime against all of humanity and decency. Sometimes the line is a lot thinner than you'd think.

Absolutely amazing topic to do a master's paper on, LaUr3n!
12/15/2010
Contributor: Jessica Elizabeth Jessica Elizabeth
Personally I think all body mods are great, except "splitting" as it can be detrimental to your day to day life.

Otherwise I find body modifications to be very attractive actually. I think I'd find my partner and myself to be much less attractive if we were less modded. We both can't wait until we can get more piercings and tattoos!

I do think it can be overdone, but it depends on the mods, the body, etc.
12/15/2010
Contributor: ~LaUr3n~ ~LaUr3n~
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Originally posted by Darling Jen
That's a really good way of looking at it.

I thought about this for a little while and thinking that modification and mutilation change note based on any physical characteristics but on cultural/social ones. To me, it's not the fact ... more
Excellent answer! Thinking like a sociologist This is the reason I asked if there was any religious or ethnic required reasons for tattoos or piercings that you may have.

You also bring up a point I did not think anyone would touch on. Consent.

Why do you feel their is a stigma? Do you think it really is routed as far back as slavery when we would brand and tattoo as ownership? This was transferred to prisoners. We did the same thing to them. Culturally and historically, tattoos had a "purpose" in American and European life and that was to segregate and identify property and or criminality.
12/15/2010
Contributor: ~LaUr3n~ ~LaUr3n~
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Originally posted by Jessica Elizabeth
Personally I think all body mods are great, except "splitting" as it can be detrimental to your day to day life.

Otherwise I find body modifications to be very attractive actually. I think I'd find my partner and myself to be ... more
Another great point!

Is modification mutilation when it impede your ability to function?

Is it about numbers?
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Contributor: Not here Not here
I took the survey and messaged you! Hope it helps for your paper
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