Have you ever used a Ouija board?

How do you know it's not the cure? How do you know that there's not another perfectly reasonable explanation for unusual events? For example, a friend of mine was convinced that he was haunted. Doors would slam of their own volition. Lights would flicker and die. Curtains would flap when there was a non-existent wind. All of which turned out to have reasonable explanations. For the first, because of the layout of his house, when a window was open in the kitchen, and another was open in the front rooms, it would cause a draft to be funnelled through the house, and thus cause the doors to be slammed when there was relatively little wind outside. The second, turned out to be rats chewing on the cables by the fuse box, outside. The third ... turned out to be the heater. Very ghoulish. In that sense, destroying the board isn't the cure, but neither is the board the cause.

I do think that I need to clear something up: the makers of the ouija board (which, while those two words do mean yes, it's thought that those words aren't the root of the word 'ouija', though no one can be entirely certain) made it solely as a game, it's not their fault if people misuse their products for ridiculous means. This happens all the time with a variety of appliances - tarot cards, for one link, and certainly people did use cards before then for ill-gotten means, to swindle and prey on the weak-minded. less

The vast majority of "hauntings" can be debunked as being due to natural causes. I KNOW this. However, there are things we can't explain, and one has to choose (or finally EXPERIENCE for oneself, in some cases, or for really stubborn people with preconceived notions without the experience to back those notions up) for oneself what appears to be true (keeping in mind that sometimes what "appears" to be true and what is actually happening may be quite different.) I already said I'm not trying to change anybody's mind.

Please read my previous post that it doesn't make a damn bit of difference who makes the boards as that doesn't matter. Not to mention the fact that they can be easily home made, with similar results. Everyday objects can be the focus of paranormal entities all the time. WHO makes the boards is irrelevant. Why do people keep bringing this up, as if it made any difference?

I'm not going to argue about something that can't be proven scientifically, and THIS cannot be proven scientifically.

I'm not going to go into every "what if" because there are too many of them.

If you don't think something nasty can be called up or have the hubris to think you can completely control this something once it has manifested, be my guest. I wouldn't want to be there when it happens, though. Most people who have had things they can't get rid of at one time either didn't believe or thought they could control whatever came through. I know people who used boards for years with no nasty occurrences, until, once...

But, I can't prove that, and I'm not going to try.

Do what thou wilt. less

Why can't it be proven scientifically? If it exists in this world, then it should be observable, quantifiable, and should be able to be scientifically proven. As yet: nothing.

For the record, I have experienced several things that I can't explain, but I don't think we should go by personal experience on its own. Human perception is very flawed, with witnesses to incidents giving conflicting accounts. That's why we test things. That's why we need more than just 'because I say so' in the courts.

I've just given the finger to the Christian god, and I've been in the bathroom to attempt a Bloody Mary chant (though it's the morning here, so it was quite light. I'll try again later), and I'll be ordering a ouija board later. I'll keep you informed of anything bad happening (to be clear I've had this sore throat and dodgy stomach for a few weeks, so that can't be counted). less

I've made it clear I'm not trying to change anybody's mind.

How should I know why something can't be proven yet? Take in mind that 200 years ago or less we couldn't prove that there were other galaxies, or planets around those other suns. (But, they still existed.) Now, we have the technology to prove these things are true. Fifty years ago, we didn't have DNA testing to prove everything from who committed certain crimes to parentage of children for certain. Now we have that technology. That doesn't mean The truths we can prove now weren't true years before, simply because we didn't have the technology to prove them. Does it? Many things that exist may not be able to be proven, only because of the technology to prove them hasn't been invented yet.

But, that's neither here nor there, as it takes imagination to think that things exist, even if one can't "prove" them. We have proof for things (everything from the moon landing to the President being born in the USA) that people STILL refuse to believe. For some, NO amount proof is enough. For others, a little uncertainty is intriguing. I'm of the latter. YOU don't have to be.

If you do purchase and mess around with a Ouija board, there is no guarantee that anything will happen. Nor that you will be able to detect subtle changes if they do, or that you will be able to attribute those changes to your actions with the board or with anything else. People who don't want to be open to certain things can ignore a boatload of experiences, if they choose. Some people have boards for decades, and absolutely nothing happens. (As some people smoke for decades and remain completely healthy, that doesn't mean that NO ONE who smokes won't have health problems.) Good luck with your board. (You do know that you have to have at least two people in order.... never mind.)

But, I'm not trying to prove anything to you nor anyone else. Nor trying to change your mind.

Why are you so vehement about trying to change mine ? It makes no difference to you in the long run what I believe in or don't believe in.

You said: I've just given the finger to the Christian god So? That's not relevant to this conversation. I don't see the relevance at all. You're trying to prove to me you don't "believe" in anything? And? It makes no difference to me what you, or anyone else believes in.

In part, we are products of our experiences and how we interpret and decode them. Some people don't understand that. ALL people have beliefs, whether they admit to them or not.

Believe what you wish. It makes no difference to me. I'm not trying to convince you of anything.

You have every right to choose what to believe in.

As does everyone else. less

Lol funny story. So yesterday my husband went into Panda Express to get me chinese food and he comes back with food and a Ouija Board. Some guy outside asked if he wanted it, my husband said no at first but on his way out the guy said he was going to leave it somewhere because it was bad luck, so he took it. We played it and just laughed and stared at eachother. Its just sitting on the table, doing nothing like we expected. It is an old one too, the questions on the back are hilarious. "Will I grow taller so I can slam dunk?", "Does Bobby know I like him?, Who told him?". Funny stuff. less