when you get married is the sperm still the man's or does it become communal property. specifically, what if the wife wants kids, but the husband doesn't?
ownership of sperm
12/08/2011
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Uh ... no, when people get married, they still have control of their own bodies. Even rape can occur in marriage.
12/08/2011
Yes, I agree. People should have control of their own bodies and their own reproduction. The decision to have children should be made by both partners, if both partners are, legally or otherwise, going to be affected by the decision.
12/09/2011
I don't understand what "sperm ownership" has to do with it. I agree with Elnoa that the decision to have kids should be made by both partners. It's not just up to one or the other. And if sperm is "communal property", then so are eggs, right?
12/09/2011
no, but i do whatever i want with his spleen. that shit is mine. he signed a contract.
12/09/2011
Getting married doesn't mean the other person is your property, period.
Unless you live in a country with medieval human rights.
Unless you live in a country with medieval human rights.
12/09/2011
marriage doesn't mean you sign away your rights - there is no "two become one," it's two people making decisions, sometimes together and sometimes not
12/09/2011
I don't think so, no. My sperm is mine, but when my girl and I get round to having kids, I suppose I could rent it out.
12/09/2011
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Yes, this,.
Originally posted by
chicken12
Uh ... no, when people get married, they still have control of their own bodies. Even rape can occur in marriage.
12/09/2011
Agree with first comment it's still in the mans body
12/09/2011
If the husband doesn't want children, and the wife is desperate to get pregnant, there's always the option of sperm bank
12/09/2011
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Hahahaha! Ok, that made me laugh!
Originally posted by
jedent
no, but i do whatever i want with his spleen. that shit is mine. he signed a contract.
12/10/2011
I WISH some guys would take ownership of their spoog - instead of depositing them into anything that'll take 'em. It's just irresponsible.
My ex-husband was very protective of his. He wouldn't share it with anybody, including me. Not that I really wanted it as the years wore on.
My ex-husband was very protective of his. He wouldn't share it with anybody, including me. Not that I really wanted it as the years wore on.
12/10/2011
No, It is not communal property. When it comes to the decision to have kids, the one that says "No" is the one who gets the final say. It's much like the difference between sex and rape. Body autonomy is important, and there is already a precedent for reproductive coercion to be tried as a criminal offense, I'm just waiting for them to get around to protecting men's rights as much as women's.
12/10/2011
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It just occurred to me how prudish my first sentence sounded. I meant take responsibility by way of birth control. Whatever he does with someone is his business - making a life while doing so is the crux of my reasoning. Mulder had three kids by three different women because nobody wanted to do birth control ... they all still had the nerve to be surprised when the pregnancies happened. (I would have ended up with number 4 if I didn't practice birth control ... that potent, and he never took responsibility.)
Originally posted by
Chilipepper
I WISH some guys would take ownership of their spoog - instead of depositing them into anything that'll take 'em. It's just irresponsible.
My ex-husband was very protective of his. He wouldn't share it with anybody, including ... more
My ex-husband was very protective of his. He wouldn't share it with anybody, including ... more
I WISH some guys would take ownership of their spoog - instead of depositing them into anything that'll take 'em. It's just irresponsible.
My ex-husband was very protective of his. He wouldn't share it with anybody, including me. Not that I really wanted it as the years wore on. less
My ex-husband was very protective of his. He wouldn't share it with anybody, including me. Not that I really wanted it as the years wore on. less
12/10/2011
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In our State if the husband doesn't want kids but the wife does he is under no obligation to impregnate her and she has no right to his sperm....BUT if she gets pregnant while married to him, regardless of the situation the child is automatically assumed by the State to be his. He must sign away parentage for it to be legally not his child. They do not tell you this when you go to the hospital and you must ask for the papers...even then they will most likely fill out the overly complicated thing wrong and, in our case, listed my son's Polish Canadian father as a Zimbabwe native. Yup, it's a mess...
Originally posted by
T&A1987
when you get married is the sperm still the man's or does it become communal property. specifically, what if the wife wants kids, but the husband doesn't?
@Errant Venture: LOL good luck collecting it back....OMG the mental images!
Marriage doesn't guarrantee you body rights over your partner anymore. There's no such thing as conjugal rights just a clause that says you cannot have sex with others in most contracts. My husband's body is not mine and he decided he didn't want more than two children, period. I had NO say in his decision to get a vasectomy though he did regret it a few years later. Still I wouldn't want 'ownership' of him or his body...I prefer the free and happy guy!
12/10/2011
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Could you see the divorce settlement? OK you get the house and the dog....she gets your spleen. How soon can you arrange the removal and transfer?
Originally posted by
AngelvMaynard
Hahahaha! Ok, that made me laugh!
Or the marriage vow: Do you Mr. Jedent promise to relinquish your spleen should Jedent ask for it?
I do.
Good times, good times....
12/10/2011
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Good times indeed! Haha
Originally posted by
Airen Wolf
Could you see the divorce settlement? OK you get the house and the dog....she gets your spleen. How soon can you arrange the removal and transfer?
Or the marriage vow: Do you Mr. Jedent promise to relinquish your spleen should Jedent ask for ... more
Or the marriage vow: Do you Mr. Jedent promise to relinquish your spleen should Jedent ask for ... more
Could you see the divorce settlement? OK you get the house and the dog....she gets your spleen. How soon can you arrange the removal and transfer?
Or the marriage vow: Do you Mr. Jedent promise to relinquish your spleen should Jedent ask for it?
I do.
Good times, good times.... less
Or the marriage vow: Do you Mr. Jedent promise to relinquish your spleen should Jedent ask for it?
I do.
Good times, good times.... less
12/10/2011
Both people should agree to have kids. Accidents happen, but true reproductive coercion is a terrible thing.
If you can't agree, end the relationship or find some way to confirm that birth control is being used, such as getting sterilized or using a condom every single time.
If you can't agree, end the relationship or find some way to confirm that birth control is being used, such as getting sterilized or using a condom every single time.
12/10/2011
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