This sounds absolutely scary to get sprayed with! Dunno about the legal stuff though.
I just carry mace on key chain

I was thinking along the same lines, it seems to me it would be in the same category of mace or pepper spray.

I thought it would be good because it will shoot so far.

Right, but the only problem with that, is that in some states mace/OC spray is either illegal or considered a concealed weapon, which is why I 100% implore you to check out weapons laws for your state. I mean, I guess you could always say that you just so happened to have it on hand, but an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of lawyers fees.

I've never tried wasp/bee spray (I live in an apartment, so if something like that comes up... Hello? I'd like to speak with the super! But I can totally imagine how it would be better than either of the two. But, if possible, try to take a defense course that focuses on the use of mace/OC spray because anything you bring into a situation as a weapon can just as easily be turned against you, and such a class could minimize that occurrence.

I agree with the whole your weapons can be used against you thing. I heard that at some college, a girl was sprayed with mace by her attacker. That's crazy! Taking a class on self-defense and knowing your state laws is definitely a great idea. Good advice, DeliciousSurprise!

I have many ways to defend my self, various forms of hand to hand combat, weapons of various types, guns and archery equipment etc etc. Plus at 30 feet I do not think they will get close enough to take it away from me.

I was looking to see if any body had heard of this, not if you think I should use this.

Thanks for you advice though, I think that everyone should take some form of self defense training.

totally legal. my friends just got their apartment broken into, and she said what can she use to protect herself besides a gun, since she doesn't like guns. They told her wasp spray. Pepper spray won't stop someone determined enough to get what they want. This is in Washington state, so I don't know what the laws are everywhere.

Even worse, if you're not careful, you could just as easily turn it against yourself! I heard of a woman (friend of a friend of a friend ) whose can of mace leaked in her purse and she cleaned up the mess, but rubbed her eyes right after without washing her hands first, much to her dismay. I don't know how wasp spray and mace compare, but I'd imagine that would still be pretty painful!

I've heard this too and yes it does shoot far (to get high up nests), but I don't think it goes THAT far.

It might also just piss them off and make them aggressive...

HAHAHA...Wasp-zombie apocalypse.

LOL.

Now you're just opening yourself up to discrimination law suits.

What you should really be using is non-denominational pest killer.

I think it depends. Women have actually been prosecuted for using Mace or Pepper Spray. Not that you shouldn't have it, I think they are a good idea. But, some rapists have claimed they did nothing and were attacked by a woman with a can of Pepper Spray. Some of the women, especially if there was "no evidence" of sexual assault (which makes me crazy, a woman has to PROVE she was assaulted by actually being harmed?) were prosecuted for Assault.

Wasp sprays are usually very potent pesticides. They can cause long term health problems if breathed or sprayed into the mouth, eyes or nose.

I'd think twice about it. As much as a woman assaulted would want to maybe blind the rapist, it might actually cause her to be the one with more legal troubles.

Sadly, this country doesn't prosecute sex crimes well, and a woman could end up with a fine or even jail time for "assault" with a toxin like wasp spray. The thing about Pepper Spray is they are formulated not to cause "permanent harm." Same reason REAL Mace is not legally available. It's toxic as well.

I'm not saying I agree, just the way our laws are set up.

I think if someone broke into you HOUSE, and tried to assault you, you'd have a much better chance of not being tried as the aggressor, than if you were carrying it around in your purse. Breaking and entering, itself is a crime, and you have legal right to defend your property (more than you have legal right to defend your BODY, believe or not) so I'd say it would be less of a problem in your home.

Maybe Sex,Lies and Law would know, this contributor is a law student.

I need to get some of this stuff, I think I would also pick up some raccoon and squirrel spray too.

Just don't confuse them, the raccoon spray may not work on squirrels.

Trually I would get a good mace, if your going to carry a spray form of deffense.

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I have had previous training with that product within the military, allthough we used a little stronger version. Its rated at 3million HCU(the civilian version). It is illiegal to carry in new york. I am not sure about other states, it all depends upon the state. Its very strong and one of the other things I love about it is that it will die the skin green. I like that because if you do call the police and they get involved in chacing a guy who stole your purse or something all they have to do is look for the guy with green ink marks.

We used wasp spray for training, its not as strong as your "self deffence peper spray" that you see in stores....it may shoot farther but the effect does not last but a few seconds. You also have to be sure to get it in the eyes with wasp spray. Mace will directly irritate the skin.


Let me also add you can have all the mace in the world but IT WILL NOT COMEPLETLY STOP A CRIMINAL. If someone has been to jail a few times and has been in crime his whole life it may not affect him at all. Same as some law enforcemnt they get a little more used to it then the average joe who doesnt see it on a average joe.

I would recomend taking a self deffense course if you feel the need. Basic moves that are very simple can do alot better then mace.

Most of all be carefull, dont fool around with any from of pepper spray

Good info, thanks.

Good Point!

I find it a bit disconcerting that the US Military uses a pesticide as a training tool. These chemicals are formulated to kill quickly and can do a great deal of damage to the respiratory system, the immune system and the digestive system of insects, animals and humans alike.

People who are accidentally exposed to this stuff have come into the ER and often come in VERY sick. People have died from exposure, both long term and short term to anti-cholinergic drugs, which is what most pesticides are. We have to dose them with heavy Atropine, give them respiratory support, and sometimes they need dialysis to rid the body of this stuff. Some people, especially children who have consumed these anticholinergics, and people who work for pesticide companies and have somehow been exposed to large amounts of these drugs either by breathing it, or absorbing it through the skin have died from exposure to them.

A few years ago, two boys who walked across a golf course which was very heavily sprayed in the evening with an anticholinergic pesticide were brought in to our ER and they were both near death. Thankfully, with medical care, they both survived.

Your comments that the Military uses these for "Training" scares me a little.