WOW...how do you feel about this one?

Contributor: Bignuf Bignuf
Just heard a new story (very valid source, but not a generally available news outlet) about a brother and sister, now in late 30's. They are BOTH once married and divorced (no kids, thankfully, I think), and THEY have just petitioned a state court for a special permission to get married!!! Seems they have admitted now to having played "I'll show you mine if you show me yours", since they were about four years of age, and by their teen years, they were having several night a week relations. They went to the same college and somehow arranged to be room-mates (bed-mates) for the whole four years. The consciously decided to separate and find "real" partners after college...which they did, with total failure. Now they have been "back together" for four years and want to get legally married!

How do you feel about THAT arrangement. With other "non traditional" marriage on the books more and more, is it for any of us to say "NO"? Is it just "crazy" to consider saying "yes"?????

They did say they will "NOT have children" (at least not of their own making), so they too realize the reproductive risk involved, but they say "love is love and they cannot help it".

SO...what do you think?
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Contributor: Peggi Peggi
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Originally posted by Bignuf
Just heard a new story (very valid source, but not a generally available news outlet) about a brother and sister, now in late 30's. They are BOTH once married and divorced (no kids, thankfully, I think), and THEY have just petitioned a state ... more
Honestly, as long as they don't try to have children together I don't have any issue with it. I'd never do something like that, because as much as I love my siblings, I don't love them like that, but I have no problem with other people doing this.
06/27/2012
Contributor: P'Gell P'Gell
Incest is illegal. It's doubtful they can get the state to OK their marriage.

There was a case a number of years ago where a brother and sister had been separated as children and met later and got married. They had a few kids, who were healthy. When they found out they were related, the state allowed to stay married, but one of them had to be sterilized. At least that's how I remember it. It's pretty hard to force someone into sterilization, but it's also nearly impossible to have an incestual relationship legalized.
06/27/2012
Contributor: Zombirella Zombirella
I just think it's disgusting to be honest. I don't agree with any type of incest. At all. Period.
There is NO way they will be able to do it, no one is going to approve that. And IF that should ever be legal, well they damn well better approve gay marriage in EVERY state!!! Atleast being gay isn't illegal.
I'll just stop there before I end up offending someone.
06/27/2012
Contributor: Ryuson Ryuson
The thing is that homosexuality isn't illegal, so that's on the table right now. Incest and pedophilia are illegal, so the states would be condoning an illegal act for them to get married (and, it's implied, have sex.) I don't really see force-sterilizing siblings because as long as their parents weren't related as well there should be a VERY low chance of them having issues.

But hey, I think that there was someone in Australia trying to marry a dolphin (when bestiality is illegal) so maybe things will change in the next few years with these people actually trying to get it settled legally. Maybe they can just move to Australia and try it there.
06/27/2012
Contributor: Beck Beck
I don't think they should try to bring children into that relationship, but if they want to be together, that is none of my concern. I do think it's disgusting, but it's not my place to say what two adults can do with their own bodies. Clearly they want to be together, so they should be allowed to be together. They are adults and can do as they wish. I'm not sure if I think they should get married, but if the state allows it, then that's fine by me.
06/27/2012
Contributor: KrissyNovacaine KrissyNovacaine
I honestly don't particularly like it, but I don't care as long as they aren't negatively impacting children. I would prefer if there were no kids involved ever, but I can't be too critical because I have a very non-traditional relationship that I intend to be long term.
06/27/2012
Contributor: Antipova Antipova
They can do what they like, I don't think the state should be required to authorize it, though.

As far as I know (although it probably varies state by state) there are ways that domestic partners (like spinster sisters who share a house) can have some of the legal protections that marriage provides (at least healthcare rights, probably some tax stuff too.) This couple should probably pursue that, since it's more likely to be feasible than marriage.
06/27/2012
Contributor: Ansley Ansley
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Originally posted by Ryuson
The thing is that homosexuality isn't illegal, so that's on the table right now. Incest and pedophilia are illegal, so the states would be condoning an illegal act for them to get married (and, it's implied, have sex.) I don't really ... more
By definition in many, many states homosexuality is illegal. It's classified as sodomy.
06/27/2012
Contributor: Llahsram Llahsram
They are two consenting adults, and they don't intend to bring kids into it. It's not something I'm personally into, but who am I to condemn them? It's none of my business, and they aren't hurting anyone.
06/27/2012
Contributor: Ansley Ansley
My opinion is: who cares? The United States government needs to pull its head out of its ass and its laws out of our bedrooms. Are minors involved in the sexual activity? No. Are animals involved? No. Is anyone doing anything against their will? No.

My anger comes from a long list of issues I have with any government body or religion dictating who people can have sex with and how. I'm not going to run out and hop in bed with my family, but if people have been able to figure out that dynamic without emotionally scarring everyone involved, then what business is it of mine? Or, anyone else's for that matter.
06/27/2012
Contributor: underHim underHim
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Originally posted by Ansley
My opinion is: who cares? The United States government needs to pull its head out of its ass and its laws out of our bedrooms. Are minors involved in the sexual activity? No. Are animals involved? No. Is anyone doing anything against their will? No. ... more
I could not agree with you more!
06/27/2012
Contributor: Ms. N Ms. N
Wow...that is quite a story. The thing is, it probably isn't so unusual, historically speaking, or even today in some parts of the world. As they are adults and don't plan to bring children into it, I would be inclined to say...go ahead. We don't get to choose who we fall in love with, and sometimes, it can be inconvenient. This is just a lot more inconvenient than usual. But they are not hurting anybody, so why not?

I can imagine how the "good people" in their town will treat them if they are allowed to pursue this marriage though. It would probably be best for them to move to a new city where they could be more anonymous.
06/27/2012
Contributor: PropertyOfPotter PropertyOfPotter
It's not something that I would choose, so who am I to judge? It has nothing to do with me...so it doesn't matter in my mind.
06/27/2012
Contributor: pirkit pirkit
I think it's gross, but as long as they don't have any children together I don't think it's a big deal.
06/27/2012
Contributor: Sundae Sparkles Sundae Sparkles
Its what ever to me but I agree that they should have stayed out of the public eye with this... life may get difficult for them if this story gets media coverage
06/27/2012
Contributor: wdanas wdanas
I'd have an issue with it, if only because we don't know the story behind it. Were they exposed to sexual situations at an inappropriate age that normalized the idea of sexual relations between family? Did the brother groom and coerce the sister into doing sex acts with him growing up, or vice versa? Love is love, sure, but there's something unusual about siblings exploring each other to that sexual a degree.

It's not up to us to analyze them or tell them what to do, really, but there's still reasons you aren't allowed to engage in incest, and normalizing that to any extent makes me feel a bit icked out.
06/27/2012
Contributor: PassionateLover2 PassionateLover2
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Originally posted by Ansley
My opinion is: who cares? The United States government needs to pull its head out of its ass and its laws out of our bedrooms. Are minors involved in the sexual activity? No. Are animals involved? No. Is anyone doing anything against their will? No. ... more
As someone said earlier, "Incest is illegal. It's doubtful they can get the state to OK their marriage."

But to your point about government intrusion or to get our laws out of our bedroom, I complete agree with you. What needs to be done is that (WE) the people need to change our representatives in order to change these laws; until that happens, the laws have to be enforced! We are a country of LAWS! Nothing more, nothing less.
06/27/2012
Contributor: Nora29714 Nora29714
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Originally posted by Ms. N
Wow...that is quite a story. The thing is, it probably isn't so unusual, historically speaking, or even today in some parts of the world. As they are adults and don't plan to bring children into it, I would be inclined to say...go ahead. ... more
I agree!!!
06/27/2012
Contributor: Yaoi Pervette (deleted) Yaoi Pervette (deleted)
If they want to be together, it is none of my business. I don't think it is healthy though. I don't think they can expect the state to allow them to marry when infest illegal.
06/27/2012
Contributor: ghalik ghalik
It's illegal and gross, but hey, different strokes for different folks.
06/27/2012
Contributor: Ansley Ansley
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Originally posted by PassionateLover2
As someone said earlier, "Incest is illegal. It's doubtful they can get the state to OK their marriage."

But to your point about government intrusion or to get our laws out of our bedroom, I complete agree with you. What needs ... more
Sad, but true.
06/27/2012
Contributor: tami tami
okay if you want to be together whatever leave the children out of it. but i don't care what they do either way
06/27/2012
Contributor: Stinkytofu10 Stinkytofu10
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Originally posted by Bignuf
Just heard a new story (very valid source, but not a generally available news outlet) about a brother and sister, now in late 30's. They are BOTH once married and divorced (no kids, thankfully, I think), and THEY have just petitioned a state ... more
I think it's fine as long as they don't have children.
06/27/2012
Contributor: guard083 guard083
To be honest I think this is completely messed up. I don't agree with it at all but that is just my personal opinion
06/27/2012
Contributor: Aeronaut Aeronaut
This doesn't seem right on any level. I don't happen to agree with them, but this is my opinion on the idea at least.
06/27/2012
Contributor: ghent529 ghent529
It doesn't seem "right" but who am I to judge...
06/27/2012
Contributor: Sammi Sammi
Incest is incest. I don't think they should be allowed to marry.
06/27/2012