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K101
" I think it may be possible for a person who is straight, monogomous and vanilla in their sexual choices to feel sexually liberated and still be within the boundaries set by their religion. I don't see this being a very common occurance
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" I think it may be possible for a person who is straight, monogomous and vanilla in their sexual choices to feel sexually liberated and still be within the boundaries set by their religion. I don't see this being a very common occurance though. "
WHY WOULDN'T THIS BE A "COMMON OCCURANCE?" Is the only thing you consider not vanilla a sin or something? Or does the term vanilla/boring mean not adding sin in with your sexual life?
Ok, are you saying it seems that only a vanilla, monogamous and straight person can feel secually liberated and still be like you said within the boundaries of their religion? I'd like to know how you get that?
I AM straight and monogamous and Spiritual/Christian meaning I have a close, healthy relationship with God, but my partner and I are far from "vanilla" I can't quite understand WTF is so wrong with monogamy and who's to say what falls under the category of vanilla and what doesn't? Who made up the rules of kinky and boring? Just becuase a couple doesn't enjoy rape fetishes or anal sex or extreme BDSM DOES NOT mean they are "vanilla" that is strictly YOUR opinion on what is boring and what is not. Maybe the couple who doesn't go to the extremes are very happy. Very happy is far from boring or "vanilla."
My partner and I both are Christians and nowhere does the bible say you shall not use sex toys, you shall not wear a crotchless teddy while doing a back bend on the kitchen table in front of only your partner. Do you mean that monogamy is what is "vanilla?" I just don't quite think I understood that comment. It's not like Christians aren't ALLOWED to be wild with their partner. The bible says do not committ adultery. So, not committing adultery is "vanilla?" That is the only thing that is "prohibited" by Christianity. Well, besides the sex out of marriage and all. It doesn't mean that God disowns homosexuals or those who do commit sin. Maybe you should have specified the religion you were talking about in this comment!
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Well, where you're misunderstanding is that she's not talking about a person's
faith, she's talking about their
religion. I'm going to focus on Christianity because you are.
Many, if not most, of the churches that I've been to preach vaguely on sex, if they don't avoid the subject altogether. And when the topic is brought up, they teach you to be cautious and fear sex. It's such a grave sin outside of marriage. You might as well murder someone, that would be better than to have sex with someone. And for God's sake, PLEASE don't have sex with someone of the same sex because then you're going straight to Hell.
Others I've been to will even go so far as to blame women for a man's sexual misconduct. Telling her that what she is wearing will cause a man to stumble. That her wearing a low-cut top or a short skirt is her way of disrespecting every man on the face of the planet because now they're fantasizing about her. And if he were to rape her? Oh, well, "What were you wearing? Were you drinking? Are you sure you didn't say no? Premarital sex is a sin, maybe you're just covering up your guilty conscience." My response to this is summed up nicely in the
Vagina Monologues.
That is what religion tends to say, not what the Bible says. The Bible is clear on the subject that sex is good and that it can be as wild and passionate as you want it to be. But there are too many people who listen far more closely to what the preacher says than to what the Bible says. There are people I know that are very sound Christians and who engage in BDSM practices. They are far from vanilla. But there are others that I know who believe that sex is about procreation, and aside from that, shouldn't be engaged in much (except to keep their spouses from cheating)... to the point where they won't even undress in front of their spouses as to not excite them too much.
Religion is a tricky, prickly, and complicated hot-button issue. But I think it's important to clarify that faith and religion are two separate subjects.