Can a person be sexually liberated and still be loyal to the sexual boundaries set by their religion?

Contributor: Emma (Girl With Fire) Emma (Girl With Fire)
I was making grilled cheese earlier and for some reason this question just popped into my head. I doubt there is any correlation between the two but it is still a good question.

There are a variety of rules within many if not all religious groups. Some of them can be seen here : link

Now I will include as many different groups to this poll as I can, I hope that some of you will offer your opinions because I am honestly really interested in the different views people may have.
Answers (private voting - your screen name will NOT appear in the results):
I am a woman and
78
I am a man and
20
I am a trans female and
I am a trans male and
1
heterosexual and
48
homosexual and
5
bisexual and
18
pansexual and
16
monogamous and
35
polyamorous and
7
I do NOT believe it is possible
11
I DO believe it is possible
27
I believe it depends on the person
61
I believe it depends on the religion
43
I believe it depends on the sexual preference of the person
13
Other (please explain)
6
Total votes: 389 (108 voters)
Poll is closed
11/25/2010
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Contributor: Emma (Girl With Fire) Emma (Girl With Fire)
I have not yet been able to make a firm decision on this. In my opinion I suppose it would depend on the person, their sexuality and the religion they are a part of. I believe that religion is very biased when it comes to bot gender and sexual preference. I think it may be possible for a person who is straight, monogomous and vanilla in their sexual choices to feel sexually liberated and still be within the boundaries set by their religion. I don't see this being a very common occurance though.
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    I am personally offended by this
11/25/2010
Contributor: cherryredhead88 cherryredhead88
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Originally posted by Emma (Girl With Fire)
I have not yet been able to make a firm decision on this. In my opinion I suppose it would depend on the person, their sexuality and the religion they are a part of. I believe that religion is very biased when it comes to bot gender and sexual ... more
I'm not quite sure I understand completely what you are asking, but from what I understand I voted that it depends on the person and whatnot.

I normally don't talk about religion with people because it can get sticky, but since this is such an open and awesome community I will say that I have my own set of beliefs.

I am not quite athiest but I do believe in a higher power and I don't relate sex to my religion. I know there are plenty of religions out there that have boundaries as far as that stuff is concerned, but really I don't feel like anyone should be limited to their choices in things like that because that is personal and has nothing to do with religion.

Hope I don't offend anyone!
11/25/2010
Contributor: Sir Sir
Alright, here we go..

I'm a male, and am pansexual and monogamous. I feel that a person CAN be liberated but still true to their sexual persuasion, and I also feel that it depends on the person.
11/25/2010
Contributor: Emma (Girl With Fire) Emma (Girl With Fire)
Thank you guys for sharing!
11/25/2010
Contributor: Emma (Girl With Fire) Emma (Girl With Fire)
I don't think you guys will insult anybody with your answers sherryredhead yours was pretty considerate This wasn't a post that was meant to upset anybody, I am just really interested in peoples opinions.
11/25/2010
Contributor: Naughty Student Naughty Student
I think it depends on how much a person is traditional/orthodox or progressive in their religous views and how they interpret the scripts they are suggested to follow. I think that different religions also have differening views about sexuality and sex also.

I am not very religious, but I am somewhat buddhist/hinduist in my beliefs (although I am a caucasian white girl) and I feel quite at ease with me sexual overture.
11/25/2010
Contributor: SexyTabby SexyTabby
I think it depends on the individual and their personal beliefs. There really isn't an easy answer.

I am very faithful in spirit and to God but I no longer follow any one religion. Man has corrupted God's word to dictate their own beliefs and in favor of their social order. I simply refuse to conform to anyone else's representation of what they believe to be right or wrong.

I truly believe if you are a good person and hold God in your heart then whether or not you choose to defy sexual behavior as described by society or another human being it simply has no bearing on your faith. I refuse to believe God put us on Earth with free will and rules regarding how to use that free will when it comes to sex. He created us as we are, each of us unique, each of us special and each of us capable of greatness.

I also think those who don't believe in God are just as equal and should not be held to anyone else's standards because society or religion says so.

We are capable of deciding our own fates and in doing so our free will should not be judged or condemned as long as no others are harmed, wronged or laws broken.

Religion is supposed to guide us but many use it as a tool to herd us. Being a decent human being with our own personal sexual preferences hardly should reflect on our religion and definitely shouldn't be defined by it.

Shoot, as told by the religion I grew up with I'll be going to Hell for enjoying anal sex so I guess anything else is just icing on the cake for me.
11/25/2010
Contributor: Airen Wolf Airen Wolf
Quote:
Originally posted by Emma (Girl With Fire)
I was making grilled cheese earlier and for some reason this question just popped into my head. I doubt there is any correlation between the two but it is still a good question.

There are a variety of rules within many if not all religious ... more
As a pagan my lifestyle and lovestyle is in alignment with my religious beliefs.
11/26/2010
Contributor: Emma (Girl With Fire) Emma (Girl With Fire)
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Originally posted by Airen Wolf
As a pagan my lifestyle and lovestyle is in alignment with my religious beliefs.
Pagans have the most open views towards sex and sexuality of any religion I have looked into. I'm glad it's working for you
11/27/2010
Contributor: ScottA ScottA
Yep. I'm a Christian, so I respect my vows, remain loyal to my wife, and try to demonstrate the love of Christ to her - but there's plenty we can do within that relationship sexually.
12/28/2010
Contributor: Lady Neshamah Lady Neshamah
i think it depends on the person. one of my closest friends and lovers is a wonderful bisexual poly christian woman. she is totally sexually liberated and feels that she is still in her boundaries because she is staying true to herself
12/29/2010
Contributor: Gallowraven Gallowraven
Quote:
Originally posted by Emma (Girl With Fire)
I was making grilled cheese earlier and for some reason this question just popped into my head. I doubt there is any correlation between the two but it is still a good question.

There are a variety of rules within many if not all religious ... more
I think it has a lot to do with the person, and how fully they follow their religion. a devout follower of a religion, may be aware of the pleasures that certain things can cause, but will not explore them, out of respect, fear, or some other personal reason. where as someone who is a "weekender" goes to church every sunday and fights to stay awake during the service, may be fully aware of all of the options, but would explore only some of them. and a person who claims no religion, but still believes in god/goddess or some other form of higher being. may explore anything their partner is willing to explore also, with the limitations of bodily injury in place. on the other hand, there is the possibility that I have no idea what I am talking about, I am just going by the types of people I have encountered in my life.
01/12/2011
Contributor: Emma (Girl With Fire) Emma (Girl With Fire)
Quote:
Originally posted by Gallowraven
I think it has a lot to do with the person, and how fully they follow their religion. a devout follower of a religion, may be aware of the pleasures that certain things can cause, but will not explore them, out of respect, fear, or some other ... more
I have to agree, this is what I have seen in most cases.
01/12/2011
Contributor: ScottA ScottA
Depends on what you consider sexually liberated as well. I can really enjoy sex and do many things while still being faithful to my wife, so I consider myself "liberated" to a point - but I'm not going to go sleeping around or stuff like that.
01/12/2011
Contributor: Yoda Yoda
I'm a Christian and I do my best to find harmony between my faith and my personal opinions and actions when it comes to sex.

Everyone has different opinions on what liberated means, and unfortunately, everyone is at least a little bit judgmental. Personally, I think that being liberated has a lot more to do with tolerance than it does with out habits.
01/12/2011
Contributor: WHITEMIKE WHITEMIKE
Religion (today's religion) and freedom are not able to be married and walk hand in hand. Religion requires servitude and submission without question. There is no room for freedom in the home of religion. There are conditions and restrictions to all who accept religion into their life. Religion is restriction and sexual slavery. It is male domination through guilt and shame.
02/20/2011
Contributor: RammaJamma RammaJamma
It depends on both the person and the religion. For those less adventurous about their sexual liberties perhaps a religion like Christianity would work. For me however, such a religion does not work. I am far to free with my sexuality to be restricted by a fear of my own sexuality and guilt for being with women. Within my current religion, Buddhism, my sexual choices are fully supported.

It seems that many on this forum are assuming that 'religion' means 'Christianity'. There are many religions that understand the beauty and divinity of sex and incorporate it into their belief system (Like Tantra, the eastern practice of 'sacred sex').
02/24/2011
Contributor: *Huxley* *Huxley*
Depends on the person and situation.
02/24/2011
Contributor: Adriana Ravenlust Adriana Ravenlust
I think someone could be sexually free but still fall into the straight and monogamous category that many religions prefer.
02/24/2011
Contributor: thatonegirl thatonegirl
I am a lesbian and feel that i can not practice the religion i was raised in because of my sexual choice.
02/25/2011
Contributor: aBeastlyLittleThing aBeastlyLittleThing
Quote:
Originally posted by Emma (Girl With Fire)
I was making grilled cheese earlier and for some reason this question just popped into my head. I doubt there is any correlation between the two but it is still a good question.

There are a variety of rules within many if not all religious ... more
i couldn't be sexually free until i came to terms with my atheism. i went to church my whole life and felt ashamed for everything i did, and everything i am, and feel. now i am free to be myself!!
03/13/2011
Contributor: BBW Talks Toys BBW Talks Toys
This is my current struggle. I am not sure. But the more and more I think about it, the more I feel that being a Christian is more about my faith and my relationship with God and less about the rules and interpretations of the Bible. There are too many questions left unanswered in that book and until I get to have a sit-down and ask my questions and get a straight answer, I'll interpret it in my own way.

That said, my own beliefs on sex and very liberated; however, My Mr's are not. We're wading through that. Slowly.
04/01/2011
Contributor: Emma (Girl With Fire) Emma (Girl With Fire)
@aBeastlyLittleThing: Congratulations!
@BBWTT : Good luck hunny. I hope you are moving forward.
04/01/2011
Contributor: Sweet-Justice Sweet-Justice
I'm a pan sexual women who was raised christian catholic, and while I do not agree with allot of catholic rules I still consider myself to be a christian and a religious women.
04/01/2011
Contributor: Kdlips Kdlips
i don't thinks so no
04/01/2011
Contributor: Sex'и'Violence Sex'и'Violence
I don't think so. You can't really pick and choose which rules of a religion are more or less important. In doing so (*cough* United *cough*) you bastardize the theology and as has happened with all protestant groups, encourage others to follow you. Which, depending on what you have chosen to exclude/alter may or may not be a "sin" in itself.

Personally, I view Christianity as being a corrupt and warped religion- warped in the sense that since it was taken on by the Roman Empire, it's rules and customs have been censored and altered for the purpose of spreading the influence of Rome. An example of this is Christmas- or the celebration of the birth of Christ. According to the Bible, Jesus was born during a rush move by Mary and Joseph so that they could partake in the census and pay their taxes. This would mean that Jesus was born during tax season, March or April. The reason Christmas is celebrated in December is that when Rome was trying to convert/gain favour of the Northern European tribes they would apply Christian holidays to the dates of Pagan festivals- Christmas being celebrated on Yule, so that the pagan families could more easily convert. And of course, though who still refused- as history tells us, were tortured and or executed.
05/19/2011
Contributor: K101 K101
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Originally posted by Emma (Girl With Fire)
I have not yet been able to make a firm decision on this. In my opinion I suppose it would depend on the person, their sexuality and the religion they are a part of. I believe that religion is very biased when it comes to bot gender and sexual ... more
" I think it may be possible for a person who is straight, monogomous and vanilla in their sexual choices to feel sexually liberated and still be within the boundaries set by their religion. I don't see this being a very common occurance though. "

WHY WOULDN'T THIS BE A "COMMON OCCURANCE?" Is the only thing you consider not vanilla a sin or something? Or does the term vanilla/boring mean not adding sin in with your sexual life?

Ok, are you saying it seems that only a vanilla, monogamous and straight person can feel secually liberated and still be like you said within the boundaries of their religion? I'd like to know how you get that?

I AM straight and monogamous and Spiritual/Christian meaning I have a close, healthy relationship with God, but my partner and I are far from "vanilla" I can't quite understand WTF is so wrong with monogamy and who's to say what falls under the category of vanilla and what doesn't? Who made up the rules of kinky and boring? Just becuase a couple doesn't enjoy rape fetishes or anal sex or extreme BDSM DOES NOT mean they are "vanilla" that is strictly YOUR opinion on what is boring and what is not. Maybe the couple who doesn't go to the extremes are very happy. Very happy is far from boring or "vanilla."

My partner and I both are Christians and nowhere does the bible say you shall not use sex toys, you shall not wear a crotchless teddy while doing a back bend on the kitchen table in front of only your partner. Do you mean that monogamy is what is "vanilla?" I just don't quite think I understood that comment. It's not like Christians aren't ALLOWED to be wild with their partner. The bible says do not committ adultery. So, not committing adultery is "vanilla?" That is the only thing that is "prohibited" by Christianity. Well, besides the sex out of marriage and all. It doesn't mean that God disowns homosexuals or those who do commit sin. Maybe you should have specified the religion you were talking about in this comment!
05/20/2011
Contributor: BBW Talks Toys BBW Talks Toys
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Originally posted by K101
" I think it may be possible for a person who is straight, monogomous and vanilla in their sexual choices to feel sexually liberated and still be within the boundaries set by their religion. I don't see this being a very common occurance ... more
Well, where you're misunderstanding is that she's not talking about a person's faith, she's talking about their religion. I'm going to focus on Christianity because you are.

Many, if not most, of the churches that I've been to preach vaguely on sex, if they don't avoid the subject altogether. And when the topic is brought up, they teach you to be cautious and fear sex. It's such a grave sin outside of marriage. You might as well murder someone, that would be better than to have sex with someone. And for God's sake, PLEASE don't have sex with someone of the same sex because then you're going straight to Hell.

Others I've been to will even go so far as to blame women for a man's sexual misconduct. Telling her that what she is wearing will cause a man to stumble. That her wearing a low-cut top or a short skirt is her way of disrespecting every man on the face of the planet because now they're fantasizing about her. And if he were to rape her? Oh, well, "What were you wearing? Were you drinking? Are you sure you didn't say no? Premarital sex is a sin, maybe you're just covering up your guilty conscience." My response to this is summed up nicely in the Vagina Monologues.

That is what religion tends to say, not what the Bible says. The Bible is clear on the subject that sex is good and that it can be as wild and passionate as you want it to be. But there are too many people who listen far more closely to what the preacher says than to what the Bible says. There are people I know that are very sound Christians and who engage in BDSM practices. They are far from vanilla. But there are others that I know who believe that sex is about procreation, and aside from that, shouldn't be engaged in much (except to keep their spouses from cheating)... to the point where they won't even undress in front of their spouses as to not excite them too much.

Religion is a tricky, prickly, and complicated hot-button issue. But I think it's important to clarify that faith and religion are two separate subjects.
05/20/2011
Contributor: NarcissisticLust NarcissisticLust
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Originally posted by BBW Talks Toys
Well, where you're misunderstanding is that she's not talking about a person's faith, she's talking about their religion. I'm going to focus on Christianity because you are.

Many, if not most, of the churches that ... more
Well said!
05/26/2011