do you believe that the new bill signed by the president yesterday fixed the debt problem in this country?
did the debt ceiling bill fix anything?
08/03/2011
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No idea, but based on my limited knowledge of US politics then no, it was not a good thing. I'll let the ones who do know what they're talking about expand, should they agree.
08/04/2011
Its a little early to tell, isn't it?
Also, without taxing the Rich and large companies more, we will NEVER get back on track. Those who have more need to help more. I don't buy the whiney, "Oh, if you tax us we won't give anyone jobs." They have been NOT taxed and where the fuck are the jobs? The rich and the large corporations are full of shit. They take the best this country has offered and shit on it.
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Thanks, Bush, (heavy sarcasm) and thanks to all who conveniently blamed the black guy instead of who is really responsible.
Also, without taxing the Rich and large companies more, we will NEVER get back on track. Those who have more need to help more. I don't buy the whiney, "Oh, if you tax us we won't give anyone jobs." They have been NOT taxed and where the fuck are the jobs? The rich and the large corporations are full of shit. They take the best this country has offered and shit on it.
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Thanks, Bush, (heavy sarcasm) and thanks to all who conveniently blamed the black guy instead of who is really responsible.
08/04/2011
All I want to know is: where in the hell is Bill Clinton when we need him?
08/04/2011
The worst part of the whole thing is that we got to see just how partisan the American government is. As much as I don't like the Tea Party, they are doing something that hasn't been done in years: making waves to get things changed. I might night like what they're proposing/fighting for...but at least it's something.
I think a lot of the issues could've been avoided if they would've axed the Bush tax. That's all suction and no return.
I think a lot of the issues could've been avoided if they would've axed the Bush tax. That's all suction and no return.
08/04/2011
No. It simply did not address the real issue...out of control government spending.
The U.S. debt is currently $46,719 per citizen.
U.S Debt Clock
The U.S. debt is currently $46,719 per citizen.
U.S Debt Clock
08/04/2011
No. Economic ideas based on few taxes for the rich are always going to create trouble. Also, the debt ceiling will continue returning, repeatedly holding the economy hostage until the next time.
08/04/2011
nope
08/07/2011
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it was 51.500 when i went and looked at it! depressing.
Originally posted by
Mr. E
No. It simply did not address the real issue...out of control government spending.
The U.S. debt is currently $46,719 per citizen.
U.S Debt Clock
The U.S. debt is currently $46,719 per citizen.
U.S Debt Clock
08/11/2011
As long as justice is what proves to be most advantages for the strongest we aren't going to get anywhere as a country. So no I don't think this deal really did much. It still isn't getting to the core of the issues.
08/17/2011
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This is depressing.
Originally posted by
Mr. E
No. It simply did not address the real issue...out of control government spending.
The U.S. debt is currently $46,719 per citizen.
U.S Debt Clock
The U.S. debt is currently $46,719 per citizen.
U.S Debt Clock
08/22/2011
No way! How is the answer to a debt problem SPEND MORE??? If you raise the ceiling, your ganna increase the debt. Bunch of Keynesians.
09/18/2011
When the economy is doing good, no one whats to make the hard choices to do anything about I the debt. It's imposable to make any real progress when the economy is in the tank.
09/21/2011
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Kind of like my credit card being maxed out and instead of stopping spending, every time it reaches max point, I just give myself a bigger credit limit (with NO more income at home). The entire process up there is just digging a bigger and bigger hole,when, as the old adage goes, if you find you are at the bottom of a deep hole, the best thing to do is STOP DIGGING.
Originally posted by
married with children
do you believe that the new bill signed by the president yesterday fixed the debt problem in this country?
10/05/2011
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Beyond scary, ain't it? Why does the government not understand what WE all know?
Originally posted by
Mr. E
No. It simply did not address the real issue...out of control government spending.
The U.S. debt is currently $46,719 per citizen.
U.S Debt Clock
The U.S. debt is currently $46,719 per citizen.
U.S Debt Clock
10/05/2011
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Or Ronald Reagan. Both Democrats and Republicans have had great, successful leaders in terms of vision and economics. We need that now, more then ever.
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Ansley
All I want to know is: where in the hell is Bill Clinton when we need him?
10/05/2011
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Love your answer....except, they DON'T know. That is why we are in the mess we are in. The "experts" are only those who spout "intelligent" sounding polices that have left us in dire straights. We need NEW people on capital hill...NOT professional politicians, but, as the founding fathers envisioned, just working class people who would go to Washington, serve a term or two, and GO HOME..to let someone else do the job. That is the problem. most of the folks up there have NEVER worked in the real world. Held a REAL job and made payroll or started a business. They don't have a clue beyond some retched college economics class, how to run the economy.
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Errant Venture
No idea, but based on my limited knowledge of US politics then no, it was not a good thing. I'll let the ones who do know what they're talking about expand, should they agree.
10/05/2011
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I understand what you are saying, Eucaly. But, raising the debt ceiling (without which we would have defaulted on our loan and been exactly where Bush wanted to put us; middle class fucked up and heading towards an other Great Depression even more than we are now) had NOTHING to do with taxing the Rich.
Originally posted by
Eucaly
No. Economic ideas based on few taxes for the rich are always going to create trouble. Also, the debt ceiling will continue returning, repeatedly holding the economy hostage until the next time.
BOTH should have been done. Obama, as much as I want to trust in him, is too concerned about Boner and the other Republicans liking him and not wanting to be being seen as the "angry black man" to be aggressive enough to fix the problems. He needs to get MAD at Boner, the Tea Party, GWB and all the other fascists who have PUT IS IN THIS MESS!!!!
He needs to tell the rich, "Too fucking bad. Pay your taxes and shut up." Just put taxes where they were when Reagan was in office. Why not? He also needs to put high tariffs on things coming from China, fine companies for moving their "Operations" offshore so they don't have to pay taxes and for outsourcing jobs. Sadly, he isn't being strong enough of a leader to do this, due to his Daddy Issues. (He want big important men, like the Repubs in Congress to like him and it's getting in the way of him doing his job.)
I'm SO disappointed, I could cry. I have.
10/05/2011
in two weeks, the super committee will fail to agree to anything and the either the 10% across the board cuts will go into effect, or if it's possible to veto the cuts, if they have to presented in bill form, nothing will happen.
11/07/2011
too early to tell still i think but im not sure it will help.
12/05/2011
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