The Glee conundrum.

Contributor: Blinker Blinker
HEY YA'LLS!

If anyone hasn't really been watching the news lately, you've missed a new Glee controversy. For the cover of GQ magazine, controversial (I say that because he has had several allegations of sexual harrassment and abuse thrown his way, and he likes younger girls in his shoots) photogrpaher Terry Richardson photographed 3 Glee cast members as oversexualized high school stereotypes. Actually, he only photographed the girls this way. The only male on set was allowed to wear his clothes at all times, perform activities that didn't require spread legs or bending over, and he was generally not the focus of the shoot. The Parents' Television Council recently released a statement calling the photos in question "pedophilic" and demanded apologies from the involved cast members.

All actors in the shoot are well over the age of 18, and can do as they please. I do find it slightly pervy that the hypersexualized schoolgirl stereotype is being used so blatantly, but, this is a magazine intended for adult men. If this was a shoot for Seventeen magaizine, I'd understand the anger. I guess I'm on the fence, and I'd like to read everyone else's opinions on this matter. Please keep discussion civil and don't call anyone bad names or put a pox on anyone's home.

Here are the photos in question.











10/23/2010
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Contributor: Alicia Alicia
I've heard so much about this and I'm kind of torn. Personally if they had made the cover shot more innocent I wouldn't care at all. Children should not be reading this magazine, they should not be able to look at it, and so if it was not on the cover it should not be an issue at all since the actors are all over 18.

I watched "The Talk" where they were saying how 8 year olds watch Glee. Well..there's a problem right there! Why would anyone ever allow their young child to watch Glee?? There is a lot of sexual based topics on that show, we have people pregnant and hiding who the father was because she slept around, we have a girl who will sleep with just about anyone, another one who does the same just to get attention and love..it's just not a child friendly show! I would never let my young kids watch it and therefore when they see the cover of GQ it won't matter because they don't know who they are.

For teens though..I think the line is somewhat more unclear. Teens do watch Glee and teens shouldn't be hypersexualized either, but aside from the cheesy Lea Michelle shots with the Lollipop I didn't think they were all that untasteful.

I don't particularly love the shoot, I do think it was pretty tacky and it's not my thing at all, but I think it's being blown wayyyy out of proportion!
10/23/2010
Contributor: Kindred Kindred
1. GQ is a magazine for adults.

2. All of the actors involved in the photo shoot are adults.

3. Glee is not a show for children.

4. Like it or not, the school girl theme is a sexual fantasy for some men.

5. Some people need to loosen up their sphincters.
10/23/2010
Contributor: Jobthingy Jobthingy
Quote:
Originally posted by Kindred
1. GQ is a magazine for adults.

2. All of the actors involved in the photo shoot are adults.

3. Glee is not a show for children.

4. Like it or not, the school girl theme is a sexual fantasy for some men.

5. Some people ... more
Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes and Yes.

They are adults. Just because they play high school kids does not mean they are.

And as for 8 year olds watching it and their parents have their panties in a knot because of these pictures, how about the cheerleader kissing scene last week? link

That is ok for them to watch but these pics are not? Come on.
10/23/2010
Contributor: kck kck
Quote:
Originally posted by Jobthingy
Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes and Yes.

They are adults. Just because they play high school kids does not mean they are.

And as for 8 year olds watching it and their parents have their panties in a knot because of these pictures, how about the ... more
What's wrong with seeing girls kiss? We see boys and girls kiss, even in kid's movies and TV shows.

Torn as well... though leaning more towards the side rather than the "Right on!" side. If that makes any sense. Heh.
10/23/2010
Contributor: Kim! Kim!
Quote:
Originally posted by Jobthingy
Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes and Yes.

They are adults. Just because they play high school kids does not mean they are.

And as for 8 year olds watching it and their parents have their panties in a knot because of these pictures, how about the ... more
Oh there are people angry about that scene too, claiming that even teens should not be seeing two girls kissing and they're angry over the scissoring comment. I really don't care what they show. Glee is a guilty pleasure of mine.

Who the hell is letting their 8 year old watch it?! I remember when I was in high school my parents wouldn't let me watch Dawson's Creek after the first season. I'd think it was just a think against bad TV but I wasn't allowed to watch The Simpsons either. Mine were a bit strict but still, you get my point.

Who cares what they do in a photo shoot if they're all over 18? I guess maybe if they were Playboy I SORT OF could see why people were upset, since they are role models for teenagers At the same time, it's their life as an adult.
10/23/2010
Contributor: Jobthingy Jobthingy
Quote:
Originally posted by kck
What's wrong with seeing girls kiss? We see boys and girls kiss, even in kid's movies and TV shows.

Torn as well... though leaning more towards the side rather than the "Right on!" side. If that makes any sense. Heh.
*I* dont have anything wrong with it at all, in fact my daughter has been to gay weddings, and even has 2 grandmas.

I am saying the parents of the 8 year olds that find the pictures offensive don't find anything like that offensive. They let their children watch sexually explicit when its on tv but it is bad when it is on an adult magazine.
10/23/2010
Contributor: Alicia Alicia
Quote:
Originally posted by Jobthingy
*I* dont have anything wrong with it at all, in fact my daughter has been to gay weddings, and even has 2 grandmas.

I am saying the parents of the 8 year olds that find the pictures offensive don't find anything like that offensive. They ... more
Exactly, that scene was not for children to watch not because it was two women, but because it's a sexual scene and I wouldn't want my 8 year old watching anyone make out like that!
10/23/2010
Contributor: Alicia Alicia
Quote:
Originally posted by kck
What's wrong with seeing girls kiss? We see boys and girls kiss, even in kid's movies and TV shows.

Torn as well... though leaning more towards the side rather than the "Right on!" side. If that makes any sense. Heh.
I think when there is a kiss in kids movies or shows it's usually a peck type kiss, and not two people in bed with each other.
10/23/2010
Contributor: loveya770 loveya770
This has been a big-to-do on sever websites I visit on a regular basis. I agree, this shouldn't be an issue because they are over age, but unfortunately, Glee is a show that does target the teenage audience due to a lot of the new and hip songs that they play on there. Whether or not it is meant to be for teens is somewhat of an argument, but it does gear itself towards that age group in some aspects.

Now, do I personally think that this is a big deal... no. I do find it somewhat tasteless but I guess that doesn't matter either. It is a magazine geared towards men. Some men fantasize about the naughty school girl, so with that being said, this picture is perfect for that magazine.
10/23/2010
Contributor: kck kck
Quote:
Originally posted by Alicia
I think when there is a kiss in kids movies or shows it's usually a peck type kiss, and not two people in bed with each other.
Yes, I know. I wasn't saying the scene was appropriate for kids (I don't think it was given the feeling-up-on-the-bed situation). I was merely trying to get a clarification, or at least point out that the problem wasn't girl-on-girl. 'tis all
10/24/2010
Contributor: Andromeda Andromeda
Quite frankly, I DO have a bit of an issue with this shoot. I'm fine with Diana Argon's outfits for the most part, but I think the pictures of Lea Michele are erring on the side of tacky and tasteless. I mean, did she have to be in underwear the entire time? But I can get past that even... EXCEPT for the last picture. Sitting legs spread open while only wearing little white panties that are virtually see-through? No... just no. And the fact that Cory whatshisface is fully clothed and surrounded by two half-naked girls totally portrays women in the wrong way, imho.
10/24/2010
Contributor: Crystal1 Crystal1
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Originally posted by Andromeda
Quite frankly, I DO have a bit of an issue with this shoot. I'm fine with Diana Argon's outfits for the most part, but I think the pictures of Lea Michele are erring on the side of tacky and tasteless. I mean, did she have to be in ... more
I've gotta agree. I'm guessing she's trying to go against her image on the show, but is she really going to be thrilled about this photo shoot when she looks back a few years from now?
12/19/2010
Contributor: slynch slynch
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Originally posted by Kindred
1. GQ is a magazine for adults.

2. All of the actors involved in the photo shoot are adults.

3. Glee is not a show for children.

4. Like it or not, the school girl theme is a sexual fantasy for some men.

5. Some people ... more
I agree with all 5 points!
03/13/2011
Contributor: Solar Ray Solar Ray
Well if it's an adult men's magazine I gotta say they are all tame pics. I wouldn't be busting a nut over those pics anytime soon. Much ado about nothing when there's plenty of MUCH bigger fish to fry elsewhere... next.
03/13/2011
Contributor: IrishLassie IrishLassie
Quote:
Originally posted by Kindred
1. GQ is a magazine for adults.

2. All of the actors involved in the photo shoot are adults.

3. Glee is not a show for children.

4. Like it or not, the school girl theme is a sexual fantasy for some men.

5. Some people ... more
*claps* Bravo! I agree.

So many people are identifying the actors as the character and only the character. Personally I think it's tastefully erotic.
03/15/2011
Contributor: Emma (Girl With Fire) Emma (Girl With Fire)
Quote:
Originally posted by Jobthingy
Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes and Yes.

They are adults. Just because they play high school kids does not mean they are.

And as for 8 year olds watching it and their parents have their panties in a knot because of these pictures, how about the ... more
3 of the cast members have slept with almost everybody of the opposite sex in the shcool. There is a constant of sexual subtext in the show, both student and teacher oriented, (that is, when it is not the MAIN focus of the episode). There is an unrelenting amount of cruelty between the characters of the show, it is not emphasized, or encouraged, but it is not exactly shown in a negative light (even thought they would like you to believe that is the case). I dunno, nothing about glee screams, child friendly to me....

Anybody else just going to blame this on the alcohol?
03/15/2011
Contributor: hjtee hjtee
Quote:
Originally posted by Kindred
1. GQ is a magazine for adults.

2. All of the actors involved in the photo shoot are adults.

3. Glee is not a show for children.

4. Like it or not, the school girl theme is a sexual fantasy for some men.

5. Some people ... more
I couldn't agree with you more.
They are doing the shoots as actors/models, not as Glee characters.
They are all well over the legal age, so what's the big deal!?
04/12/2011
Contributor: NarcissisticLust NarcissisticLust
Quote:
Originally posted by Kindred
1. GQ is a magazine for adults.

2. All of the actors involved in the photo shoot are adults.

3. Glee is not a show for children.

4. Like it or not, the school girl theme is a sexual fantasy for some men.

5. Some people ... more
Completely agree!
04/16/2011