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Contributor: SMichelle SMichelle
does not mean that my review is inaccurate.

I received an e-mail the other night based on one of my reviews. The contributor wrote that they didn't feel my review was fair, or accurate, as I didn't rate the product highly. I thought it was cheaply made, and it didn't do a thing for me.

Anyway, I've gotten messages like this in the past from contributors, so I feel like I should say something...

When you read reviews, please keep in mind that the review is the opinion/experience of the person writing the review. The experience and opinion might differ from yours, but that doesn't make it wrong.
06/16/2012
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Contributor: ToyTimeTim ToyTimeTim
Right! I think people forget that the review should reflect OUR opinion of a product. That's what makes them so nice and why the reviews on EF are so much better than other sites. I have heard that other sites will not allow a negative review of a product, my head just screams "WHY?!!!" when I think about it.
06/16/2012
Contributor: Geogeo Geogeo
Exactly. That's the whole point of reviews by real people...for the different experiences all the reviewers can offer.
06/16/2012
Contributor: PropertyOfPotter PropertyOfPotter
The whole point is so that you get everyone's take on the item so it helps you to decide whether or not to get it. If I received a product that only had great reviews and I hated it, I would express that! It's my right to have those feelings and opinions, just like everyone. I'm sorry that you've been given a hard time for expressing your views on something!
06/16/2012
Contributor: BG529 BG529
wow so third grade opinions are like assholes everyone has one... and it's not right for you to try and take someones opinion from them
06/16/2012
Contributor: Falsepast Falsepast
Same happens to me constantly! Mainly people vote my review as "somewhat useful", even though I put as much detail as possible, simply because I'm a boy and went anal with it.
06/16/2012
Contributor: js250 js250
I have had this happen as well and just end up ignoring the negativity. If the person is adult and friendly, I will message them back saying I am sorry they do not agree, but my experience is the only knowledge I can base my review on. Glad they had a better one.
06/16/2012
Contributor: Ms. N Ms. N
Wow. I would never tell someone that their experience with a product was wrong just because it was different than my own. If I comment on a review of something that I owned and liked that the reviewer did not, I normally just say something like, "I'm sorry this didn't work for you."
06/16/2012
Contributor: - Kira - - Kira -
I've never rated lower based on a difference of opinion. I've seen very well written reviews on products that I personally love that the person had a bad experience with. I'm always bummed to hear when someone doesn't love one of my favorites, but everyone has their own experience and not everyone will like the same things.

If it seems like they got a defective product rather than they just didn't like it, I'll mention that in the comments. I still won't vote down for it.

I've never gotten a message like that. I tend to have different opinions a lot of times, too, so I'm surprised I haven't. Lots of times I'll be the one two star rating amongst four and five star ones. LOL
06/16/2012
Contributor: Rossie Rossie
Quote:
Originally posted by SMichelle
does not mean that my review is inaccurate.

I received an e-mail the other night based on one of my reviews. The contributor wrote that they didn't feel my review was fair, or accurate, as I didn't rate the product highly. I thought it ... more
THIS:
"When you read reviews, please keep in mind that the review is the opinion/experience of the person writing the review. The experience and opinion might differ from yours, but that doesn't make it wrong."

I hope everyone on Eden gets a chance to read your message...that is exactly how a review should be written.
06/16/2012
Contributor: Claire-Bear Claire-Bear
100% on point. I agree.
06/16/2012
Contributor: John E W John E W
I have to agree with js250.
When any of us does a review it's how we the person using the toy or product have found it and what your own experience is on that certain product. Weather it be positive or negative.
06/16/2012
Contributor: sexystuffeve sexystuffeve
Quote:
Originally posted by ToyTimeTim
Right! I think people forget that the review should reflect OUR opinion of a product. That's what makes them so nice and why the reviews on EF are so much better than other sites. I have heard that other sites will not allow a negative review of ... more
I agree 100% with your opinion!
06/16/2012
Contributor: Airen Wolf Airen Wolf
(EF Review Program Mentor)
Quote:
Originally posted by SMichelle
does not mean that my review is inaccurate.

I received an e-mail the other night based on one of my reviews. The contributor wrote that they didn't feel my review was fair, or accurate, as I didn't rate the product highly. I thought it ... more
Holy cow! I'm sorry this happened to you. A review is always about YOUR perception and experience with the product. Unless JR or another staff member contacts you I'd just toss away anything else.
Sometimes the product is AMAZING for one user and sometimes it just sucks ass. That's how it goes. When you get two reviews that say completely different things then you know there is either a quality control issue or it can be variable in terms of successful use.
If I thought a reviewer got a defective product because I had the same product and it was SO different an experience I might suggest to the reviewer that they talk to JR about it possibly being defective. I'd probably mention that on the review though, in a nice and polite way.
You are more than welcome to disagree with me on a product and we'll have a great conversation about what went right or wrong! That's the spirit of the review program after all.
06/16/2012
Contributor: Airen Wolf Airen Wolf
(EF Review Program Mentor)
Quote:
Originally posted by Falsepast
Same happens to me constantly! Mainly people vote my review as "somewhat useful", even though I put as much detail as possible, simply because I'm a boy and went anal with it.
Sometimes this happens if the toy clearly isn't meant for anal use. What YOU do with it though is your decision/problem. You are still entitled to your opinion. Hell lots of people use clearly incompatible products for anal play with no damage and a whole lot of pleasure...and then there are those people who ruin it for everyone by "falling on the dildo" and going to the emergency room!
06/16/2012
Contributor: Ryuson Ryuson
(Review Program Mentor)
I agree with what everyone has said. Unless it was a DR review and you were ragging on it because it wasn't your color or it didn't fit your anatomy right your own opinion is the whole reason that Eden sends us stuff! I think that we need as many opinions on the products here as we can get, because everyone has different needs and standards.

I don't think that you should give a rabbit a one star review just because it didn't fit your anatomy, but if you take off one star no one should blame you. If you think it's tacky and made like crap and take off a star, no one should look down on you for that.

And @Comatose, they should not do that at all! If a male bodied person was looking at a vaginal toy, yours would be the most useful to them. We need as many voices as we can to try and match the diverse customer base that Eden draws.
06/16/2012
Contributor: Beck Beck
Quote:
Originally posted by Ryuson
I agree with what everyone has said. Unless it was a DR review and you were ragging on it because it wasn't your color or it didn't fit your anatomy right your own opinion is the whole reason that Eden sends us stuff! I think that we need as ... more
I totally agree with you here. Unless the review is a DR it shouldn't matter what the experience part is as long as it might be useful to someone who might use it that way, it's a useful review. DR reviews should be written using the product as it's meant to be used. Only because they go on the product page.
06/16/2012
Contributor: wrmbreze wrmbreze
Quote:
Originally posted by Airen Wolf
Sometimes this happens if the toy clearly isn't meant for anal use. What YOU do with it though is your decision/problem. You are still entitled to your opinion. Hell lots of people use clearly incompatible products for anal play with no damage ... more
That last sentence made me laugh.

I find it odd that people believe the only good opinion is their own. The world is so much better because of so many differing opinions.

How would we get new toys if everything worked for everybody?
06/16/2012
Contributor: Mamastoys Mamastoys
Quote:
Originally posted by SMichelle
does not mean that my review is inaccurate.

I received an e-mail the other night based on one of my reviews. The contributor wrote that they didn't feel my review was fair, or accurate, as I didn't rate the product highly. I thought it ... more
I agree 100%. That is one reason I was gone for about 2 years..I got tired of negative remarks and I kinda felt like I was way too old and had no business writing reviews!
I had hoped with all the other changes, this too would have changed. It used to be where you couldn't see who voted for you or how they voted so I think it has improved some in that you can now see who votes on your reviews.
Just ignore those remarks and go on with your reviews! It IS YOUR opinion! Look forward to reading your reviews!!
06/16/2012
Contributor: pasdechat pasdechat
I completely agree with what everyone else has been saying. I'd be sad if someone didn't like something that I enjoy--especially if I had recommended it--but it wouldn't affect my opinion of their review. It's good to hear what different people do or don't like about a certain product, especially if they also tell you a little bit about their preferences in general--it makes it so much easier to judge whether something will work for you than a generic product description.
06/16/2012
Contributor: Zombirella Zombirella
I have commented and voted positively on reviews of things that I liked and someone else didn't. It's the quality of the review that matters not if someone hated a toy/product that I liked. I don't think any user needs to be messaging another of something like this. I mean really, is it THAT important. It's not hurt YOU, so I say move on.
06/17/2012
Contributor: Breas Breas
Quote:
Originally posted by SMichelle
does not mean that my review is inaccurate.

I received an e-mail the other night based on one of my reviews. The contributor wrote that they didn't feel my review was fair, or accurate, as I didn't rate the product highly. I thought it ... more
Absolutely! There have been times where I'll read a person's review and be like, "aww you hated it? I loved it! that really stinks!" but I'd never rate a review negatively because their opinion was different than mine. What may work for one, may not work for another. Sometimes it'll make me sad when another person doesn't have a good experience with a product that I had the time of my life with, but that's only because I wish they could have enjoyed it as much as I did. Vice versa as well- if someone enjoyed a product so much and I hated it, I get sad because I want to love it too lol.
06/17/2012
Contributor: Xxun Xxun
Personally I love that EF has USER made reviews, I feel more comfortable purchasing an item that normal every day people have used, v.s just someone who runs the site. Plus everyone's body is different so how a toy/item/lube ect feels for them might be worlds different from how it feels to you. A couple people might find a particular item to be really great and maybe some find that it just doesn't vibe well with their body.
06/17/2012
Contributor: Ansley Ansley
Quote:
Originally posted by ToyTimeTim
Right! I think people forget that the review should reflect OUR opinion of a product. That's what makes them so nice and why the reviews on EF are so much better than other sites. I have heard that other sites will not allow a negative review of ... more
We don't allow negative reviews, either. We allow honest and objective reviews. Just because it doesn't work for you (the general you, not you specifically) or you didn't like that one particular toy, doesn't mean the manufacturer is out to get their customers "hook, line and sinker" as some would say.

There's a difference between stating your opinion in an objective way and stating your opinion as fact.
06/18/2012
Contributor: pootpootpoot pootpootpoot
That's terrible! Lately I've seen a lot of reviews I disagree with (thanks to 50 Shades of Grey), but I don't let it influence my vote! Differences in opinion are why we have three assigned reviews per product - people have different experiences!
06/18/2012
Contributor: Kindred Kindred
While I don't disagree with anything that has been said, we should also remember that there are no "rules" for voting on reviews. No one has to justify how our why they voted as long as it is not intentional down voting. Because you disagree with the rationale for the vote they cast does not mean it is not valid. Fortunately, I think the majority of the community votes based on the merits of the review itself.
06/18/2012
Contributor: P'Gell P'Gell
Quote:
Originally posted by SMichelle
does not mean that my review is inaccurate.

I received an e-mail the other night based on one of my reviews. The contributor wrote that they didn't feel my review was fair, or accurate, as I didn't rate the product highly. I thought it ... more
I've had people do the same thing, and then rate the review poorly.

I once had someone complain about a review for a dildo, which I simply said wasn't large enough for me, that I wasn't "being fair" because his penis was the same size as the dildo. Dude, I'm not fucking you, and you're not a dildo. You're a person! (Also, I've never written a review on a person, really.)

How the hell do you answer that?
06/18/2012
Contributor: P'Gell P'Gell
I only have (silently) disagreed with other reviewers on one or two things, things that were obvious. There was a book that I reviewed which had a very negative, barely concealed message.

NONE of the other people who read the book and reviewed it got that subtext. I kept thinking to myself, "Really? You missed that complete subtext of miso-andry?" But, I didn't say it or vote on any of the other reviews.
06/18/2012
Contributor: SMichelle SMichelle
Quote:
Originally posted by P'Gell
I've had people do the same thing, and then rate the review poorly.

I once had someone complain about a review for a dildo, which I simply said wasn't large enough for me, that I wasn't "being fair" because his penis was ... more
LOL!
06/18/2012
Contributor: SMichelle SMichelle
Another thing I've noticed a lot of lately is people rating reviews low because "they already own the item so the review was useless to them" (yes, I've seen people say this; not on my own reviews, but on others), or the item itself doesn't look appealing.

When you vote on reviews, you're not voting on the item. You're voting on the quality of the review.
06/18/2012